Pau
Dirk
Yeah, and we all know how far Germany went with Dirk as the number one citizen.
you can't even begin to compare these two. Dirk is a 7 footer who plays like a guard and is soft as pudding. Has no postup game. Gasol plays a good postup game and can score from a variety of spots on the court. Both are Europeans bout all you can say bout that. One is French the other is German...wow! Imagine that!
Gasol is French?
The Lakers already have a shooting guard and their defense and rebounding would become noticeably worse.
Now you're resorting to international play when you have no argument?
Dirk is no different than Gasol other than that one plays PF and the other plays SG.
Except he's taken a team to the Finals himself while Gasol couldn't win a single playoff game in Memphis, and won an MVP award.
And yet you criticize Dirk for failing as the number one guy but completely ignore Gasol's failures.
Dirk took his team to a backdoor finals sweep himself while Gasol was leading his country to national glory. The MVP award given to Dirk was a farce and never deserved or justified unlike Gasol's much validated Eurobasket MVP.
And Steve Nash is better than any player Gasol has played with on the Spanish National team
But, he lostPERIOD
Again, you criticize Dirk for not being a sufficient centerpiece in the NBA, and then you completely ignore Gasol's inadequacy as a franchise player in the NBA.
I'm so sick of the excuses for Nowitzki. His team has been good enough at times in the past to win a championship. Too bad they lacked a true lead player on a championship caliber team to push them over the top.
Has he lacked a true best or second best player on a championship caliber team next to him? I'll give you that, but he's also had a top three payroll annually and been surrounded with oodles of All-Star caliber talent, the likes of which exceeds what most superstars or near superstars have played with.
But we're talking individual accomplishments, and that is one, as well as his MVP. Dirk has done more than Gasol in the NBA as a #1 option: Fact.
Also LMAO at trying to use to Spanish National team as any sort of empirical evidence in this thread.
Nash may have been better than any teammate of Gasol's but let's be real, Nash wasn't til he went to Phoenix and made a name for himself.
That's because they're both number 2s in a NBA setting.
Memphis was never winning anything of substance with Gasol just like Dallas will never win anything of substance with Dirk.
Except this time we are comparing a Lakers player with a Mavs player. Only time Lakers fans bring that up is when they need to downgrade Gasol to label Bryant as the goat.
I'm not saying that Dirk didn't choke or wasn't a franchise player; that's irrelevant. What I'm saying is, neither is Gasol. Putting Gasol over Dirk because the latter didn't lead his team to a championship is pointless, because Gasol couldn't even get a single win in the playoffs in 12 games.
And Dirk as a number one won an MVP and went to the Finals, while Gasol as the number one was swept three times.
....unless you win the Finals, yer white bread.
Winning a media popularity contest only to be ass ed out of the playoffs by the 8 seed is not a meaningful accomplishment. I'd prefer a Gold Medal thank you very much.
But this is Spur fan logic where the 2004 Olympics never happened
Exactly. Dirk doesn't make the players around him better, which is why one-trick ponies like Dirk aren't built to be an Alpha in the NBA. Cuban bought talent for Dirk's entire career. End result = epic fail.Also LMAO at trying to use to Spanish National team as any sort of empirical evidence in this thread.
Nash may have been better than any teammate of Gasol's but let's be real, Nash wasn't til he went to Phoenix and made a name for himself.
Discounting Pau's FIBA accomplishments is very convenient while ignoring Dirk's pathetic FIBA showings. You guys have no problem pointing out how a team like Memphis with the cheapest owner in the NBA could not ascend.
i voted dirk.
i would much rather have dirk shooting the last shot than gasol. plus gasol is only good because of that other guy who plays on his team........oh ya kobe. if dirk had kobe on his team he would be the next best thing since free porn.
ah, a thread to bait the mav krew. very clever.
Are you aware that the best player on that tournament was a Spurs player?
But this is Spur fan logic where the 2004 Olympics never happened
Shooting the last shot? What type of logic is that? So forget about the first 47 minutes and change and just focus on the waning seconds? Was O'Neal not the best player in the league for a while and a top three player for a long time just because he wasn't a guy you'd want taking the last shot?
I've never bought that type of logic and have never heard it mentioned until recently. It's the logic Bryant backers use to continue to attempt to pass him off as the best player in the world.
Of course Nowitzki accomplished more than Gasol as a lead player. He played on much more talented teams and was in the midst of his prime during those years.
Honestly, I don't see a legitimate case to be made for Nowitzki. There's no bias here. As I said, I can't stand both.
depends on what you guys mean by "last shot." gasol is very good at collecting kobe's bricks and converting then into points.
...Artest ain't bad at it either.
tee, hee.
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