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    Obvious anarchist.

    Anyways, what part of the LP's agenda is "beyond just having liberty?
    Now I like most of what Bob Barr said. I had originally planned to vote for him. However, Palin came alone.

    Yes, I'll revise may statement before saying I would have voted for Bob barr rather than Mickey Mouse if Palin hadn't come along. I forgot about Barr.

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    I choose liberty over authoritarianism.
    Except for allowing the intelligence community greater access to snoop on Americans suspected of terrorism. Or when the government uses the "state secrets" clause to try and throw out a case. Or when the government says it will assassinate citizens. Or when someone advocates legalizing drugs such as ecstasy and LSD.

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    Yes, and I would have voted for Micky mouse instead of McCain.
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    Except for allowing the intelligence community greater access to snoop on Americans suspected of terrorism. Or when the government uses the "state secrets" clause to try and throw out a case. Or when the government says it will assassinate citizens. Or when someone advocates legalizing drugs such as ecstasy and LSD.
    We interpret these differently.

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    We interpret these differently.
    Sorry buddy, but as long as you and SNC and John Wayne support the bull thats going on in the middle east, you're republicans, nothing more nothing less.

    You may agree with libertarians on fiscal policies, but the key is libertarians are against the balloon defense budget and the use of US troops abroad.

    Until you clowns recant on that BS, you have no claim to anything libertarian.

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    Technically he did. However, my vote wasn't for him.
    But technically he did get it.


    You didn't notice the independent names in my list?
    I did notice the lack of Democrats in your list.


    Why is this so important to you?
    Because I'm tired of hearing your 'independent' bull .

    Are you under the strange assumption I cannot vote my conscience, or have valid reasons to vote a particular way, and must vote third party?
    No, I think you're very conscious to avoid a Democrat vote, which automatically disqualifies you as a unbiased, independent voter.

    I'm sorry, but you are appearing quite the fool to me right now.
    WGAF?

    I am a conservative variety of a libertarian. Sorry that so many people cannot accept that. I will not vote liberal. I will vote for liberty, and cons utional values over party.
    Your concepts of liberty and cons utional values change every day, depending on the party affiliation of who is at the helm.

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    You can label me whatever the you want conspiracy nut. I know what I am and what I believe. Unlike you, they change with the situation. Keep living in your bubble.

    I also do not think the keys of being a libertarian is the defense budget.

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    But technically he did get it.




    I did notice the lack of Democrats in your list.
    he said independent. See at the recent voting of these past two years, the dems are politely in line with the liberal wing of their party.




    Because I'm tired of hearing your 'independent' bull .
    Just because someone doesn't vote democrat doesn't mean they aren't independent.









    Your concepts of liberty and cons utional values change every day,
    there is nothing wrong with this. We as humans are supposed to grow and change our views.

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    he said independent. See at the recent voting of these past two years, the dems are politely in line with the liberal wing of their party.
    I know what he said. Which is not what I pointed out in an earlier post.
    You need to catch up to our conversation if you want to participate.

    Just because someone doesn't vote democrat doesn't mean they aren't independent.
    Supposedly, an independent voter sees right past party lines. In a basically two party system, not a single vote for a Democrat since Reagan pretty much tells you what kind of independent he is. I mean, if he wants to say he's a Democrat hater, that's fine. Just don't tell me you're seeing past party lines.

    there is nothing wrong with this. We as humans are supposed to grow and change our views.
    In the context of the edited quote I agree. There's also nothing wrong in the context of the entire original sentence. I can start editing your quotes and make you say something different than what you actually said too.

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    I know what he said. Which is not what I pointed out in an earlier post.
    You need to catch up to our conversation if you want to participate.
    Supposedly, an independent voter sees right past party lines. In a basically two party system, not a single vote for a Democrat since Reagan pretty much tells you what kind of independent he is. I mean, if he wants to say he's a Democrat hater, that's fine. Just don't tell me you're seeing past party lines.
    Being an independent means, imho, that he is not voting along party lines. Like in this instance where he could vote for a tea party candidate over R and D (no, not reverse and drive). If that Byne senator from IN didn't fall in line with Barry's nonsense, I would have voted for him. But for the most part I won't vote for a dem because of their national platform in the past 15 years.



    In the context of the edited quote I agree. There's also nothing wrong in the context of the entire original sentence. I can start editing your quotes and make you say something different than what you actually said too.
    I thought the end was childish and there was no where to go with it. i guess I can see that I took your statement out of context. Mi mal.

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    Being an independent means, imho, that he is not voting along party lines. Like in this instance where he could vote for a tea party candidate over R and D (no, not reverse and drive). If that Byne senator from IN didn't fall in line with Barry's nonsense, I would have voted for him. But for the most part I won't vote for a dem because of their national platform in the past 15 years.
    I wouldn't consider you an independent either.

    I thought the end was childish and there was no where to go with it. i guess I can see that I took your statement out of context. Mi mal.
    It wasn't childish and ultimately it's what's really re ed about his takes.

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    I wouldn't consider you an independent either.



    It wasn't childish and ultimately it's what's really re ed about his takes.
    No I'm a conservative.

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    Water Closet likes libertarians because they criticize Democratic policies, but otherwise they're "anarchists." Yeah, minus the stances on civil liberties, drugs, and indiscriminate war Water Closet could be a libertarian. Yeah.

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    Now I like most of what Bob Barr said. I had originally planned to vote for him. However, Palin came alone.
    Yeah, you were a libertarian until the authoritarian war-mongering MILF hottie came along. Yeah.

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    Yeah, you were a libertarian until the authoritarian war-mongering MILF hottie came along. Yeah.
    how?

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    A Republican who likes libertarian rhetoric on economic policy but still supports the War on Drugs, the War on Terror, etc...is still a Republican. Ditto for a Democrat who likes libertarian rhetoric on civil liberties and drugs but still supports universal health care, public schools, etc....

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    Water Closet likes libertarians because they criticize Democratic policies, but otherwise they're "anarchists." Yeah, minus the stances on civil liberties, drugs, and indiscriminate war Water Closet could be a libertarian. Yeah.
    He agrees with libertarian fiscal policies, but a rare few of their social/ethical/legal policies.

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    Hey, has anyone seen this picture of Obama as Urkel? My God, it's funny! You see it's Obama's head on Urkel's body and he says Urkel's catchphrase. He's even got the suspenders and the pants pulled up!! You see what they did there? You see!?!?


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    It's funny cuz it's true.

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    It's funny cuz it's true.
    Your ignorance is massive. You and your faux-independant crew.


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    No, I think you're very conscious to avoid a Democrat vote, which automatically disqualifies you as a unbiased, independent voter.
    You are right, but then I have said on several occasions that I hate democrats. When it comes to our elections, i vote for who is most cons utionally conservative.

    She me a democrat that has run for president in the last 40 years that fits that bill please.

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    Yeah, you were a libertarian until the authoritarian war-mongering MILF hottie came along. Yeah.
    No. Not because she was a hottie, but a down to earth conservative.

    If we were not in a time of war, or had any insight it would occur in the future, then I would be glad to have a big "L" libertarian as president. As it stands, after 9/11, it seems better to me to have someone who knows how to be CinC. I was unsure of Barr, and I do forget the details. If I recall, he realized we couldn't just pull out. Am I right or wrong on that?

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    You are right, but then I have said on several occasions that I hate democrats. When it comes to our elections, i vote for who is most cons utionally conservative.

    She me a democrat that has run for president in the last 40 years that fits that bill please.
    You need to describe what 'cons utionally conservative' means. Because as far as respecting the cons ution, you've been all over the place depending on the president's party affiliation.

    And please, just stop with the independent BS.

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    Your ignorance is massive. You and your faux-independant crew.

    Yes, the big correction after democrats took over congress.

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    Yes, the big correction after democrats took over congress.
    So, Dems saved the day from....Dems?

    Your block-headed logic knows no bounds.

    The logic you and SNC and CC use amounts to grade-school playground name calling. The Fed Reserve, the e in oil prices following their placement on commodities markets, the continual deflation of taxpayer confidence, the expense of perpetual war, 9-11, the mortgage crisis...

    NONE OF THAT MEANS , EH? It just so happens that if Dems took prior control, you have your out, history and deregualtion of the Bush admin nothwithstanding. ANd if it just so happens that we have a dem in the white house now, again you three have your out.

    What de able opportunists you three are. What incredible lack of intellect. What typical modern neocon republicans...shining examples of the worst of your kind, as a matter of fact. And most of all...what dishonorable liars you three are.

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