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    Nirvana was the 1st major Seattle scene band to break through and get major radio play. I think they're the worst of the big ones from that era with AIC being the best followed by Pearl Jam and Soundgarden, but Nirvana broke through first. That effectively ended major radio play for hair metal and stuff like Poison and Faster Pussycat.
    WRONG. Ten Dropped before Nevermind, and outsold Nevermind (both then and now). I realize that Nirvana had an album before Nevermind, however you are talking about "breaking through." Oh and yes, I am old enough to have "been there." I do however agree wholeheartedly with your list. That is exactly how I list the bands from that era/genre. AIC, Soundgarden/Pearl Jam (I go back and forth on my ranking of these two), then Nirvana.

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    Chilli Peppers is not any form of punk.

    It's more like White guilt angst angry no soul, no wang punk.
    Funk, not punk. Also, I would beg to differ here since George Clinton, after some initial reservations about a white funk band, personally thanked the Chili Peppers for reviving Funk once he listened to their music. Stevie Wonder has also made similar comments.

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    guns n roses

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    Old thread, I know. But I have to comment on this:

    See Krautrock. And see David Bowie's late 70s experimental period.
    Also: Talk Talk was doing Radiohead's shtick before Radiohead existed.

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    Aerosmith is highly overrated, especially Walk This Way with Run DMC. Johnny Lydon and Afrika Bambaata had already broken down that barrier with the far superior World Destruction.
    I know people will get on my for even bringing this up but I like techno music too, and I heard a song where Afrika Bambaata collaborated with a techno "group" called uberzone on a song called 2 kool 4 skool. It was a sonic revelation. I loved that song.

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    The Rolling Stones

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    Ewwweeh heh heh he

    If it wasn't for Nirvana, we would have never had 16 stones or Razorblade suitcase come out as bad ass grunge broski albums, breh!

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    Green day and The Ramones too.

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    Most people would have to think Greenday is a good band.

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    Most people would have to think Greenday is a good band.
    I like some of their songs but thanks to "American Idiot" they got a reputation that they don't deserve.

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    Ewwweeh heh heh he

    If it wasn't for Nirvana, we would have never had 16 stones or Razorblade suitcase come out as bad ass grunge broski albums, breh!
    And Gavin and whats her face may have never met!

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    And Gavin and whats her face may have never met!
    And she wouldn't have gone solo to make much worse, much more annoying music.

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    Most people would have to think Greenday is a good band.
    hmmm, most people under 21 maybe...

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    +1 to the nth degree times infinity

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    hmmm, most people under 21 maybe...
    I think that for people over 21, that they were doomed by their success. They were REALLY overplayed in the mid-90s.

    I still like them I just didn't listen to those CDs for a long time after it died down. Now I will listen to a few of the older songs and dont cringe.

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    Amen!!!


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    Nirvana takes this one easily. Mainly revered due to Cobain committing suicide and MTV jumping all over that .

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    ALL rap and ALL hip-hop is way overrated and is complete garbage...but I mean that in a really nice way...

    Radiohead...complete and utter garbage and no talent whatsoever.

    Nirvana..didn't suck as much and I completely understood their impact...but were still way overrated.

    Anyone on M-TV and VH-1 from like 1993 and after...complete ing garbage...

    When I look at music it is ALL ABOUT THE SONGS-PERIOD.

    We are talking melodies,lyrics,arrangements and musicianship.

    Rap and all that garbage is not about musicianship it is talking over a in' canned beat---where is the in' talent in pushing a in' button and then waiting for the in' drum beat-can beat-hand-clap- in' -moaning- to start

    and then talking over it in stupid ing rhymes about wanna-be macho-wannabe thuggish-wannabe in playa' garbage....where is the ing talent in that---pick up a ing instrument and then come talk to me about in' music.

    Radiohead is nonsense...where is the ing song structure---who the is that overrated geek who is whining over that in computerized programmed pile of ing noise they call in' music?

    Videos...now THERE'S some in' talent....in what I DON'T IN' KNOW OR CARE...
    YEAH....can you look at the camera and lick your lips-and then try these tricky in choreographed steps that REYNALDO worked on for 6 months for you to shake your ass like a in monkey on crack and coke...wow...there is some in talent....

    there you have the in state of music today...MOST of it highly in' OVERRATED...


    RANT OVER

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    I think that for people over 21, that they were doomed by their success. They were REALLY overplayed in the mid-90s.

    I still like them I just didn't listen to those CDs for a long time after it died down. Now I will listen to a few of the older songs and dont cringe.
    I agree. I have alot of friends my age that love this band. They were campy at first but now they're apart of the machine. They've sold their souls. I also think being played as the last song on seinfeld's finale didn't help their much needed trail off into the sunset move. Oh well, they're living the dream and I'll give them that much.

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    where the are my MEDS!

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    Rap and all that garbage is not about musicianship it is talking over a in' canned beat---where is the in' talent in pushing a in' button and then waiting for the in' drum beat-can beat-hand-clap- in' -moaning- to start

    and then talking over it in stupid ing rhymes about wanna-be macho-wannabe thuggish-wannabe in playa' garbage....where is the ing talent in that---pick up a ing instrument and then come talk to me about in' music.
    Amen, brah. I agree with you. Just not as intense as you I label all that stuff glorified karaoke cuz that's all it is. There's 3 parts to a rap song. The beat. The vocals and the annoying sound in the background.





    Also I think radiohead is pretty good. And there are diamonds in the rough in today's music. All hope isn't lost.

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    where the are my MEDS!


    Never heard them!!!

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    I think that for people over 21, that they were doomed by their success. They were REALLY overplayed in the mid-90s.

    I still like them I just didn't listen to those CDs for a long time after it died down. Now I will listen to a few of the older songs and dont cringe.
    exactly....
    the dookie album is still ok to hear....
    but as someone else mentioned, post seinfeld last show....they havent put out anything decent

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    Well everyone is going to consider anything that doesn't suit their own personal taste as "overrated" especially if they have widespread appeal. Right now, for me, that band is Kings of Leon.

    And from the past I would definitely go with the Stones. Their expiration date was sometime in the mid-70's.

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    Nirvana did not change anything. THe seattle music scene was already established and record executives went there to look for a marketable band and found Nirvana. Soundgarden and Pearl Jam were already well established there and doing their own thing, plus they are and were the better of the seattle bands.

    But that's not to say that Nirvana wasn't talented, they were talented in a different way in that if you were to listen to In Utero, you can hear Kurt Cobain painting with dissonance and emotional inflection whith the depravity of his soul. It actually showed him to be an awful human being, but that is art by any definition because it depicted his values and his virtues for good or bad.

    What u heard in "IN UTERO" was a man that had ceased to exist before his fatal suicide. You heard a man that was depraved morally and was a slave to his whims and uncertain emotional balance. You also heard his misplaced anger and frustration.

    You don't get to hear that with Muse or any other bands, what you hear is pretension and a strive to find a niche, even though muse is way more talented than the core of Nirvana. Although if you listened to Dave Grohl's foo Fighters, that's a pedgogical excorcise in how to drive a rock band. Dave Grohl was a rock genius and a musical genius, but mainly more rock.

    Now, Nickelback sucks because they're art is not art if you can call it. It's superficial, they know it, and they're just happy making records and having a good time, you could say that about alot of 70's rock, and that in essence is also rock n roll. I don't hate Nickelback but i can understand some of the hate for them, it's because they've garnered a bunch of unwarranted success.

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