2010 Texas Rangers

[sribb43]

It's probably best that GnR won bc they would have made an appeal and this would have dragged on even longer.

Greenberg....it's time to get that HD board in the outfield

[Whisky Dog]

prove it.

Cuban just proved it for me. If he really wanted the team, if he really wanted to spend Yankee type money and make them perennial winners, he would have bid a lot more to make sure he landed the team. He went into it with a set ceiling numbering mind for a business deal, and decided that anything more would not make it a profitable enough business deal to bother pursuing. Once it hit that number he backed out.


So Cuban wanted the team so bad to spend Yankee money and please all you little mav homers BUT he wouldn't go over 385?

[Whisky Dog]

Cubes still comes out a winner buying up that debt

Not really, he only bought 1 million worth so he won't make much of anything in his terms, the reason he did it was because he wanted to look at the organization's financial situation and just any outsider can't do that since it's a privately held organization. By being a creditor of even a small amount he could gain access to their books and formulate a plan to follow to make a business decision that would make him money.

It looks like his plan was to move the team to Dallas (which still needs to happen), up the value of the franchise, then bail with a profit. Wouldn't have been the end of the world, but he would have upped the value by venue change to a much more profit friendly location than BFE Arlington and not necessarily going all out Yankee style to win. He would have lost money if he did that, not banked which was his intention obviously.

[Whisky Dog]

A new stadium? WTF is wrong with Rangers Ballpark? Plus its only like 15 years old! It just needs updated stuff added and a big screen.

The big screen most of all

Here's the best way to describe why the Rangers need to move to Dallas, and why Cuban was interested in the first place. Keep in mind Cuban already owns property in South Dallas, Downtown Dallas, and another location just off downtown, all with access to Dart stations:

"1) Even though it is only sixteen years old, at that age it is older than two-thirds of the major league ballparks in use today. And that obsolescence can be seen throughout the Ballpark, which has an antiquated videoboard and no retractable roof. Architecturally, it goes against every trend in new ballpark construction (e.g., fewer seats closer to the playing field, open concourse so fans can watch the game and get a beer at the same time) such that it looks dated in serious ways.

2) It doesn't maximize revenue possibilities. When you look at new Yankee Stadium, there are massive revenue opportunities with field-level club seats taht the Ballpark is just not able to take advantage of. The Yankees are charging $1,250/seat for seats that are in the first five rows. The Rangers will never get away with charging that regardless of whether they're in Arlington or Dallas. But they tried to put these two rows of club seats in last year, and they just don't match up. The Yankee Stadium seats have a club right behind those seats. Of course they have waiter service, but if you want a beer now you can go to the club and get a beer and be back in 60 seconds. The Ballpark's comparable club seats right behind the plat only have club access to the Cuervo Club, which is all the way at the top of the section and from which you can't take your beer.

I won't even go into how ty the mezzanine club seats are, or how poorly designed the suite levels are. Suffice it to say the club section is always poorly sold, and the Rangers have never been able to sell out their suites. And that's a real problem in large part because . . .

3) They're leaving a lot of money on the table by not being in Dallas. The fact of the matter is that when you look at the corporate en ies that buy suites--law firms, banks, accounting firms, brokerage firms--they're all located in Dallas. None of them are located in Arlington. If you're a suite holder that wants to use the suite to entertain clients, it's a pain in the ass to have the stadium in Arlington (I say this from experience having been with a firm that had a suite for awhile, most of the time it went completely unused). If the suite were in downtown Dallas, however, it would be a lot easier to find clients who could go to a game in teh suite, even if they only wnated to stay seven innings before going home to Plano."

[monosylab1k]

Cuban just proved it for me. If he really wanted the team, if he really wanted to spend Yankee type money and make them perennial winners, he would have bid a lot more to make sure he landed the team. He went into it with a set ceiling numbering mind for a business deal, and decided that anything more would not make it a profitable enough business deal to bother pursuing. Once it hit that number he backed out.


So Cuban wanted the team so bad to spend Yankee money and please all you little mav homers BUT he wouldn't go over 385?

you so ing re ed. Greenberg/Ryan GROSSLY OVERPAID for the Rangers. Cuban wanted the team but he wasn't going to pay stupid money for it. Greenberg/Ryan obviously were.

*cue got Spurfan with "Haha Cuban won't overpay for the Rangers but he'll give Brendan Haywood 55 million"*

[Ignorant Spurs fan]

you so ing re ed. Greenberg/Ryan GROSSLY OVERPAID for the Rangers. Cuban wanted the team but he wasn't going to pay stupid money for it. Greenberg/Ryan obviously were.

*cue got Spurfan with "Haha Cuban won't overpay for the Rangers but he'll give Brendan Haywood 55 million"*

Haha Cuban won't buy the team but he's willing to pay Brendan Haywood 55 million?????

lol Chokericks!

[Spurfan]

How many championships has Cuban won, do you really want the Rangers to be a RINGLESS team

If Cuban bought the Rangers they would have built a 2-0 lead and blown it to the Yankees (get it, I'm referencing the 2-0 lead the Mavs blew in 2006 )

[manufanfirst]

Mark Cuban doesn't even harbor Nazis , who wants an owner who won't sympathize with Nazis?

[Ignorant Spurs fan]

How many championships has Cuban won, do you really want the Rangers to be a RINGLESS team

If Cuban bought the Rangers they would have built a 2-0 lead and blown it to the Yankees (get it, I'm referencing the 2-0 lead the Mavs blew in 2006 )

Preach on brotha! I would rather have Holt be the owner atleast he has rings!!!

The Mavs and Cuban have zero!!! Do we really want that guy who has a history of choking leading this proud Ranger franchise!! no!!

We should sign Tim Duncan as the DH and let Pop take over, they atleast have championship experience!!!!!!!!11111

[Spurfan]

Preach on brotha! I would rather have Holt be the owner atleast he has rings!!!

The Mavs and Cuban have zero!!! Do we really want that guy who has a history of choking leading this proud Ranger franchise!! no!!

We should sign Tim Duncan as the DH and let Pop take over, they atleast have championship experience!!!!!!!!11111

If Holt bought the Rangers they'd win every championship for the next decade , the only reason the Spurs didn't win every championship from 1999-2009 was injuries/Stern.

Since baseball doesn't rig playoff series against the Rangers like David Stern rigs everything against the Spurs, nothing would be able to stop Holt, CIA Pop and Timmy D if they brought their winning at ude here. If CIA Pop didn't intentionally lose games they might even go 162-0.

[Whisky Dog]

you so ing re ed. Greenberg/Ryan GROSSLY OVERPAID for the Rangers. Cuban wanted the team but he wasn't going to pay stupid money for it. Greenberg/Ryan obviously were.

*cue got Spurfan with "Haha Cuban won't overpay for the Rangers but he'll give Brendan Haywood 55 million"*

You really are more re ed than ducks. Good god what a got

[Spurfan]

crucify 'em, Whisk, send that Cuban loving ass to the tree of woe!

[EricB]

sigh, more muddying of the thread....

[EricB]

Ryan in his press conference just stated he projects the payroll to be at 90 million the next 2 3 years...


What is it now.......

[ducks]

so will nolan open up his wallet and offer lee a great contract?
or will he be a cheap ass

[EricB]

Nolan is not the money man, they are supported by a Dallas billionaire and president of XTO Energy out of Dallas. Also Charlie Pride is an investor

[Spursfan092120]

Ryan in his press conference just stated he projects the payroll to be at 90 million the next 2 3 years...


What is it now.......

Pretty sure it's $65 million. And tbh, they did overpay a bit..but it doesn't matter...we got the owners the fans hoped they'd get, the payroll's going up, they're going to focus on keeping Hambone...this is probably the best situation we could be in.

[Spursfan092120]

so will nolan open up his wallet and offer lee a great contract?
or will he be a cheap ass

Dude..honestly, we probably aren't keeping Lee...and it won't be about someone being a cheapass...the Yankees are going to come in and offer him WAY too much money and we won't be able to afford it, but we'll replace him with a young prospect who will probably be almost as good, or maybe not..but our main objective will be keeping Hamilton. Our pipeline is good enough where Lee is not a necessity. And we showed we were willing to go in there and pick up a great prospect to help finish the season strong..we'll do it again if we have to.

[EricB]

Daniels was interviewed and said the number 1 priority is retaining Lee and is confident they can. Said they have control of Hamilton for another year before deciding on a contract for him.


Smart IMO, extend Wash and JD. Get Lee signed, find a first baseman and a left reliever, an innings eating ground ball pitcher for the back end of the rotation and IMO that should be Jake Westbrook he is PERFECT he's like another Colby Lewis but IMO with a good defense BETTER.

[dallasmavsnfuego214]

Tough question

Who would ya'll rather keep, Lee or Hamilton?

[Spursfan092120]

Tough question

Who would ya'll rather keep, Lee or Hamilton?

If I had to choose, I'm keeping Hamilton. He's the cornerstone of this team.

[Texas Chili Dog]

I'd pick Hamilton as well. I've grown way too attached to the guy.

[Melmart1]

Tough call on Hammy v. Lee. It's easier to get a big OF slugger than a TORP ace. But, signing a pitcher to big money like what Lee will command is riskier, cus pitchers tend to break down faster/easier.

[sribb43]

I know Elvis is a leadoff hitter and is supposed to be selective at the plate but damn, he takes so many strikes right down the middle

[dallaskd]

Thank you Buck and the O's for putting an end to the Angel's season.