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Could you give me the Cliff's Notes version of this?
Thanks in advance.
Thanks, Infowars!
Last edited by Parker2112; 10-03-2010 at 01:01 PM.
Could you give me the Cliff's Notes version of this?
Thanks in advance.
I would actually buy this from a policy standpoint. It makes sense, for both policy makers and corps, to dilute poisonous waste products like flouride (see vid #3) to safe levels spread over the water supply nationwide rather than create polluted hot spots and ensuing lawsuits that stifle an entire industry and ultimately the national economy.
I confirmed a couple of things about this with a friend who works at a water plant in east texas...it made it all the more convincing actually.
evidently the opposition to flouridation is coming from many professionals in different fields so no need to throw up the conspiracy cloud on this issue. it is a debatable issue...the harder you try to squash something like this the harder the pushback. although i know its coming. its a natural reaction Im learning...because people cant believe that they aren't beyond getting lied to and getting fooled on important issues like this. people need to think that they are much to smart for trhat, so they continue to buy the company/govt line.
people just like...
It's in my toothpaste.
Should I be worried?
flouride is a toxic byproduct from the aluminum industry that is loaded from actual plants into tanker trucks, and instead of being hauled to toxic waste sites, its sent to water plants in 64% of our communities nationwide, and dumped into the water supply under the guise of healthier teeth.
94% of Western Europe has outlawed the flouridation of drinking water, and the teeth in their kids' heads are just as healthy as ours.
the author/interview subject here claims that the flouridation is a leftover practice secured by scientist advocates that were also involved in advocating asbestos, manhattan project, and ethynol.
Some communities have outlawed the use of of flouride recently, and there is a growing tide of critics, even in the EPA, however some cited scientists have lost their careers over the criticism
Worth the watch.
EPA UNIONS CALL FOR NATIONWIDE MORATORIUM ON FLUORIDATION, CONGRESSIONAL HEARING ON ADVERSE EFFECTS, YOUTH CANCER COVER UP WASHINGTON, DC, August 30, 2005 --/WORLD-WIRE/-- Eleven EPA employee unions representing over 7000 environmental and public health professionals of the Civil Service have called for a moratorium on drinking water fluoridation programs across the country, and have asked EPA management to recognize fluoride as posing a serious risk of causing cancer in people. The unions acted following revelations of an apparent cover-up of evidence from Harvard School of Dental Medicine linking fluoridation with elevated risk of a fatal bone cancer in young boys.
the video does make the distinction between pharmaceutical grade and toxic waste being hauled in a tanker truck. toothpaste uses the former, water supply gets the toxic stuff. so maybe not.
I forgot to mention: it cites the first know use of flouride in a drinking water supply as being in Nazi Germany death camps. sensationalism? roll the bones.
my throat sort of burns now...
Go here for more info.
http://www.fluoridealert.org/
They had this to say about chumps toothpaste:
You say that fluoride works topically. Does this mean that you promote the use of fluoridated toothpaste?
While the use of fluoridated toothpaste has certain benefits over water and salt fluoridation (e.g. the individual is given a choice; the fluoride does not contaminate the food supply; and the fluoride is applied to the teeth in a more targeted manner); it also presents a number of risks as well. For example:
- Children usually swallow a lot of toothpaste when brushing their teeth, and therefore, if they are using a fluoridated toothpaste they may ingest a lot of fluoride. (For some children, fluoride toothpaste represents the largest daily source of ingested fluoride.) As noted in a recent review:
"Virtually all authors have noted that some children could ingest more fluoride from dentrifice alone than is recommended as a total daily fluoride ingestion" (Levy 1999).Swallowing toothpaste at a young age is one of the major risk factors for the development of dental fluorosis - a disfiguring condition that can have damaging effects on a child's appearance and self-esteem.
- Even if one doesn't actually swallow the fluoride, the fluoride may make it through the gum membrane and enter the bloodstream - thus contributing to a person's systemic exposure to fluoride.
- Among hypersensitive individuals, fluoride toothpaste may cause or aggravate derma is (skin rash, usually near the mouth) or stoma is (mouth ulcers, "canker sores"). If you have derma is near the mouth, consider trying a non-fluoride toothpaste for 2-3 weeks and see if your condition improves. (If it does, please let us know.)
- Recent research from the pharmaceutical company Sepracor indicates that fluoridated toothpaste may cause or contribute to periodontal bone loss. This finding is serious because periodontal bone loss is the #1 cause of tooth loss among US adults. According to the scientists at Sepracor who conducted the study:
"We have found that fluoride, in the concentration range in which it is employed for the prevention of dental caries, stimulates the production of prostaglandins and thereby exacerbates the inflammatory response in gingivitis and periodon is.... Thus, the inclusion of fluoride in toothpastes and mouthwashes for the purpose of inhibiting the development of caries [cavities] may, at the same time, accelerate the process of chronic, destructive periodon is."
- The concentrations of fluoride used in toothpaste are very high (1,00o-1,500 ppm). Considering the fact that fluoride is a suspected mutagen, and that many mutagens are also carcinogens (i.e. they cause cancer), there is some concern that fluoridated toothpaste may cause or contribute tooral cancer.
- There are safer alternatives for protecting teeth than using a highly toxic compound like fluoride. In addition to non-fluoridated toothpastes, one alternative is xylitol, a natural sugar that is now being widely used in oral health programs throughout Scandinavia. Xylitol - which can be applied to the teeth via mints, gum, and toothpaste - has been found to be very effective in preventing tooth decay, and may even help remineralize teeth as well. A healthy diet, however, will always be the most important tool in the fight against tooth decay.
flouride in the water can do this
Isn't the groundwater of most of the western US and the much of country of India (among other places worldwide) naturally fluoridated to higher levels than recommended for dental health?
Shouldn't cancer levels be measurably higher in these areas that use that water for drinking?
Or is it just different fluoride?
there are two types...sodium flouride is whats being added...Im not sure what the naturally occurring flouride is, but it is different
naturally occurring is calcium flouride
http://www.fluoridedebate.com/question03.html :discusses the difference
http://www.fluoridedebate.com/conclusion.html : concludes that flouridation is e.Silicofluorides never occur naturally in nature, and they are 85 times more toxic than natural occurring calcium fluoride.
OK, so how many cancer cases have been attributed to fluoridated water?
I dont know, honestly it sounds like only pussies are affected.
or little babies.
NEW ZEALAND: Fluoride levels 'too high' for bottle fed babies. "... Infants fully formula-fed on formulae prepared with optimally fluoridated water (0.7-1.0 mg/L) have a high probability of exceeding the UL [upper level of intake] for fluoride and are at increased risk of dental fluorosis." -From abstract of June 2 paper; see also news article.
Note from FAN: In the U.S., 0.7 - 1.2 mg/L (mg/L = ppm) is the "optimal" level of fluoride in fluoridation schemes. Levels up to 4 ppm of fluoride are legal under U.S. EPA drinking water standards for contaminants.
It seems like the real danger is flourosis for kids. here is more info on why not to flouridate:
http://www.fluoridealert.org/50-reasons.htm
Idaho: Sandpoint drops fluoride from water.
"...The city council voted 4-2 this week to quit adding fluoride to the municipal water system, which serves communities from Kootenai to Dover, including Sandpoint...." July 24, Bonner County Daily Bee.
So how many pussy babies have been killed by fluoride?
I'm just trying to get down to brass tacks here.
the pussies tend to die off from other stuff, so I'm sure those stats are hard to find. I'd say a couple every month, but that's just off the top of the ol' spidey sense. but , the asthma probably would have immobilized them in no time anyway, with or without flouride.
Actually the danger is your kid winds up looking like post #9. and that case is mild
it gets worse
here is a kid from jersey:
fluorosis (fl·rōˑ·sis),
n problem caused by excessive or protracted ingestion of fluorine. Causes a mottled appearance of the teeth and in extreme cases, pitting in the deciduous and secondary teeth.
This one looks east asian
gotta love big gov in bed with big corps!!!
got toxic waste that needs dispersin'?
So how many kids end up like that from fluoride?
Worst..........thread...........ever.......
For those who study this stuff, the motivation for fluoridation of water wasn't primarily for the benefits of citizens, but for the aluminum industry to cut the cost of disposing of a waste product by turning into profits.
Exactly like GMO frankenfood is not for the benefit of citizens but for, eg Monsanto, to sell more pesticide and enslave agriculture to it patented Round-Up ready seeds. That's turning out to benefit no one but Monsanto, while hurting farmers and people.
There's a very simple, but almost impossible, rule to follow:
IF MAN MADE IT, DON'T PUT IN YOUR MOUTH.
Without govt regulation and enforcement, citizens are exposed to the predations, fraud, and profoundly evil bull of corporations.
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