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    It was only a matter of time.

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    Fluoridation of the water supply is the penultimate threat to the one true America. The Illuminati, through their puppets in the UN, the US State Department, Federal Reserve, Schwinn, and SAWS have made their move to steal the precious bodily fluids of every true American. This must not stand.

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    Ingesting fluoride in huge quan ies has been proven to predispose individuals to world socialism, enjoying soccer, drinking European beer, and sexuality.

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    Not so much of this...

    Fluoridation of the water supply is the penultimate threat to the one true America. The Illuminati, through their puppets in the UN, the US State Department, Federal Reserve, Schwinn, and SAWS have made their move to steal the precious bodily fluids of every true American. This must not stand.
    But More like...

    From a policy standpoint, It makes sense, for both policy makers and corps, to dilute poisonous waste products like flouride (see vid #3) to safe levels spread over the water supply nationwide rather than create polluted hot spots and ensuing lawsuits that stifle an entire industry and ultimately the national economy.
    And mostly..

    gotta love big gov in bed with big corps!!!

    got toxic waste that needs dispersin'?


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    It doesnt sound that damn threatening, right? Well true...at current levels, very little is seen in the way of side effects, other than flourosis. The other stuff is a bit overdramatic.

    Its the bigger issue that needs addressing...like why we have this industrial waste product being dumped into our water when the science on both the benefits and the potential risks posed is disputed. And when you look at the origins of the practice, you find even more reason to doubt this practice.

    So why do we do it? And why are more communities banning the practice? And why is there even a backlash when the practice comes under fire? Who has interests to protect here?

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    They are out to get us!

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    in Dr. Strangelove, we learned that flouridation was a commie plot.

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    or are "they" just trying to keep the aluminum industry from being exposed to crippling, neverending civil action from those in and around the plants that would otherwise be dumping this waste into waste ponds in and around their facilities? And was this initially a means of diminishing the claims of workers who were exposed to the wastes daily and who devloped numerous lung diseases and cancers but couldn't collect because the science was concealed from public view, thus allowing them to continue dumping into the water, AND keeping sick, dying plant workers from recovering?

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    in Dr. Strangelove, we learned that flouridation was a commie plot.
    never saw that. maybe that explains my resistance to chalk this up to silly conspiracy theory.

    I understand the concept. But what you dismissive folks dont realize is that this issue is being discussed in city halls across the country, and it is being stopped because it is senseless.

    so you can dispense it at safe levels. I buy that. But if it is hazardous beyond "safe" levels, what about when disaster strikes: flouride spill?

    Then people are going to get sick, and start asking why we put the in the water in the first place. especially when they realize that other countries that dont flouridate enjoy the same levels of dental health as us.

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    I'm not being dismissive... personally, I don't want it added to my food or drink.

    I can't watch any of the vids at work since I don't have sound.

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    I'm not being dismissive... personally, I don't want it added to my food or drink.

    I can't watch any of the vids at work since I don't have sound.
    They are worth the time if you get a chance. The guy in the videos is a former producer for the BBC, who begin an investigation on the job and wound up writing a book about the whole subject. He goes through a thorough history of the origins of flouridation and how the public was convinced that the process was beneficial.

    http://www.amazon.com/Fluoride-Decep...1112344&sr=8-1

    I dont see it as the evil that Alex Jones does, but I do see the propogation of sketchy public health practices by a select few, paid by the aluminum industry, as reason for concern. And to that end, I think he uses the over-dramatic doomsday speak to rile up an otherwise sedate public and get them concerned enough to inform themselves on issues like these. Which is not a bad thing.

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    I've been off of fluoride for about 3 months now. that . I'm buying spring water at the cost of $28 a month. I can feel my pineal gland de-calcifying as we speak.

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    It's in my toothpaste.

    Should I be worried?
    The reason your squeezable toothpaste tube implores you to call poison control if you ingest any, isn't because of the mint flavoring. Fluoride is toxic if ingested and there is absolutely no reason we should be forced to put that all up in every cell in our bodies, rather than choosing to apply it topically on our teeth.

    I don't know about Alex Jones. I don't know about the world of conspiracy theories. All I know is that there is absolutely no reason we should be dumping industrial pollutant into something that should be as pure as the public's drinking water and that if something smells like a fish, well, y'know, don't ing trust it.

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    I've been off of fluoride for about 3 months now. that . I'm buying spring water at the cost of $28 a month. I can feel my pineal gland de-calcifying as we speak.
    what prompted you? I have never even thought about doing something like that, until now I guess...do you feel any different?

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    what prompted you? I have never even thought about doing something like that, until now I guess...do you feel any different?
    I went about 90% vegan at the same time. Did a little research on fluoride and its history. I'm actually doing everything I can to get away from the modern containments America is poisoning with. Things like shampoo, soap, deodorant are all natural now. I'm treating to eat raw and organic as much as possible. Getting off the fluoride is just one step in that whole thing.

    I'd truly say I feel different. Is that attributable to zero fluoride? Placebo? Dietary changes? Who knows.

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    is it more expensive Balli?

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    My whole lifestyle or just spring water? In either case, the answer is yes. Personally, the costs are manageable for water. I buy two and a half gallon containers with like pull out spigots that run about 3.50 a pop. I'll use two or three a week, depending on how much water I'm drinking.

    It's far more costly than tap water, but not all that expensive in general.

    Eventually, I'm going to install an under the sink filter or buy a water cooler and sign up for home delivery of 5 gallon containers.

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    My whole lifestyle or just spring water? In either case, the answer is yes. Personally, the costs are manageable for water. I buy two and a half gallon containers with like pull out spigots that run about 3.50 a pop. I'll use two or three a week, depending on how much water I'm drinking.

    It's far more costly than tap water, but not all that expensive in general.

    Eventually, I'm going to install an under the sink filter or buy a water cooler and sign up for home delivery of 5 gallon containers.
    mainly I mean the deodorant, soap...

    and how about all those veggies...did your grocery bill go up?

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    Do y'all remember back before we had flouride in the water here? EVERY ING YEAR it was on the ballot to start adding flouride to the water. It kept getting voted down year after year despite all the money they spent on commercials...smiling dentists, etc. It FINALLY passes and...suddenly no more votes on flouride...WTF?

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    Do y'all remember back before we had flouride in the water here? EVERY ING YEAR it was on the ballot to start adding flouride to the water. It kept getting voted down year after year despite all the money they spent on commercials...smiling dentists, etc. It FINALLY passes and...suddenly no more votes on flouride...WTF?
    what years were those?

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    I think it finally passed in 1985.

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    mainly I mean the deodorant, soap...

    and how about all those veggies...did your grocery bill go up?
    Deodorant, soap, etc I'm probably breaking even on.

    As far as food, it's tough to tell. I eat out a lot less these days, so overall, I'm probably saving money.

    It feels expensive though. It's tough, because I'm eating a lot of food fresh, so instead of going to the store a couple times a week, it's like I'm there everyday buying . Plus, I'm buying organic, so while I'm holding a $5 container of organic cherry tomatoes, it's hard not to notice the $3 inorganic ones sitting five feet away. I'll do things like drop $6 bucks on two pieces of organic wheat naan bread. Or 7 bucks on like a veggie sushi roll.

    It's things like that, that makes it feel more expensive. If it actually is, I guess I don't know, but I do know I'm not getting the same sensory experience/dollar that I used to. eg: I'm not buying $20 Ahi steaks or eating in a steakhouse every other night and savoring every bite. Instead, I'm buying three tubs of hummus and grinding my way through them. Which is cool, but it feels like the expense doesn't justify the sensory payoff, I guess is what I'm trying to say. I'm in it for other reasons though; eat to live don't live to eat, is my new motto.

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    I would actually buy this from a policy standpoint. It makes sense, for both policy makers and corps, to dilute poisonous waste products like flouride (see vid #3) to safe levels spread over the water supply nationwide rather than create polluted hot spots and ensuing lawsuits that stifle an entire industry and ultimately the national economy.

    I confirmed a couple of things about this with a friend who works at a water plant in east texas...it made it all the more convincing actually.

    evidently the opposition to flouridation is coming from many professionals in different fields so no need to throw up the conspiracy cloud on this issue. it is a debatable issue...the harder you try to squash something like this the harder the pushback. although i know its coming. its a natural reaction Im learning...because people cant believe that they aren't beyond getting lied to and getting fooled on important issues like this. people need to think that they are much to smart for trhat, so they continue to buy the company/govt line.

    people just like...
    If you don't want flouride, just buy bottled water or boil your water.

    Have you ever noticed how many people have rotted out teeth that are in areas without fluoridated water? Yes, fluorine is toxic, but like anything, it depends on the level. Your conspiracy theory of them getting rid of toxic waste that way is so utterly ridiculous. But then... I've learned not to expect better from you already.

    Food for thought. Some natural water supplies have more naturally occurring fluoride than thought to be healthy, so it is partially removed, rather than added..

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    Boiling water doesn't get rid of fluoride. FYI.

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    I wasnt in San Antonio at that time. I was drinking sweet community well water in East Texas. I can still remember how that stuff tasted, running cold out of the hose in the front yard when I was a kid. I've never tasted anything like it anywhere else. And I have drank from glaciers in Washington, Montana and from the Columbia Ice Fields in Canada.

    Cant beat the water from Pine Prairie, son!

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