Women: let your men stray

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Yeah, I was talking about the one-time, short-term variety.

The stories of people having other families somewhere else in the world always fascinate me. I can't imagine how much work must go into something like that.

[tlongII]

People are still having sex...

[Cry Havoc]

I'm almost positive this thread has been very well trolled by lebomb.

Almost positive.

[Summers]

Well, Summers, I think I just have a different viewpoint on it. From my perspective, it's an agreement to use each other with no strings attached...and with permission from their husband or wife to share the most intimate thing they can with a complete stranger for no good reason other than that they must satisfy their uncontrolled lust.

These people are not masters of their own domain and simply refuse to control themselves.

I cannot claim to be much different, as I know I need to lose weight and I still sit down in front of a good chinese meal or mexican plate more often than I should...but at the same time, that is not directly using another human being.

Still, the self control point remains.

These people that step out on their loving relationships and children, I just wonder if this is what they hope their children grow up to do as well. They are setting the example after all.

I think it's so odd that you said in a previous post you had an open marriage "until recently" (while proselytizing, I presume). The people I know make no claims to have all the answers. They conduct their marriage the way they want to and leave others to conduct theirs as they see fit. With whom they choose to have sex has nothing to do with how loving their families are.

It's incorrect to assume that sex is viewed as the "most intimate thing" for all couples.

This.

lol then it's not a relationship at all they're just buddies

what kind of husband and wife openly other people? you're a dumb ty broad haha get your head examined if a man really loves you he doesnt let u other guys haha your husband lied to you your life is a lie he doesn't love you

I think I don't need relationship advice from someone calling himself "Vulvaface".

[Ignignokt]

I think it's so odd that you said in a previous post you had an open marriage "until recently" (while proselytizing, I presume). The people I know make no claims to have all the answers. They conduct their marriage the way they want to and leave others to conduct theirs as they see fit. With whom they choose to have sex has nothing to do with how loving their families are.




This.



I think I don't need relationship advice from someone calling himself "Vulvaface".

That's pretty sick.

[Ignignokt]

Summers, would you bang someone who is a friend of your husband?

[MannyIsGod]

I'm almost positive this thread has been very well trolled by lebomb.

Almost positive.

You know, I thought about that. Its one reason I stopped replying to him. If indeed he did, it is masterful work.

The problem is I don't believe he's capable of pulling something like that off. There are a few people like DarrinS and Wild Cobra who I've thought either they're completely re ed or some of the best trolls out there. They always do something to swing you to the re ed option, however.

I'm probably never going to be willing to give Lebomb the type of credit necessary to believe he's capable of that given his history. Why? Because he's done too many things to make me understand he's re ed.

[bigzak25]

Man you're so noble and above animals Zak. Serving God's will and all.

I do not claim to be above anything. I feel we as humans have a greater calling, and as such should be protector of our animals.

I remember cleaning out my dog's dirty water bowl in 2005. It wasn't really my dog, but my wife's uncles dog, whom I had named buddy. Anyhow, I cleaned that bowl good...and after I placed it on the ground, I drank from it.

I wanted to show God my humbleness. I don't want my dogs drinking out of a bowl that I would not want to drink out of.

So now I have shared my story with you.

Take care buddy.

[bigzak25]

It's incorrect to assume that sex is viewed as the "most intimate thing" for all couples. I, personally, don't think that a physical act is anywhere near as intimate as the mental, emotional, and spiritual connection felt between me and the person I love.

Which is not to say that I engage in open relationships, by the way. I have no problem keeping things casual when that's all I'm after, but I tend to be naturally physically monogamous when I love someone. Sex is still sex, though. I've been cheated on in the past, and it hurts like , but not because my boyfriend stuck his penis in someone else. The dishonesty is what hurt. The loss of trust is what hurt. The knowledge that my partner was keeping such a huge piece of himself from me is what hurt. All of those things are, to me, much more intimate than the physical act of sex.

I agree with what you are saying to a certain extent CF, but I find it tragic that so many have separated the two. I refuse the 'sex is still sex' mantra. I call it the most intimate thing because I feel it is supposed to be the culmination of the mental, emotional, and spiritual connection felt between you and the person you love.

Of course the dishonesty and loss of trust will hurt. But the majority of the pain is felt because that was something that, like I just said, should be the culmination of all the wonderful things that make a beautiful relationship. And when your partner shares that part of him or herself with another, it diminishes the times when he or she shared it with you.

[DarkReign]

when you are married you don't just "have sex" with people who aren't your spouse

that's more of an agreed living arrangement than a real relationship. gah, society is a lot more ed these days than i even realized if there are people out there like you who actually believe this garbage

Youre ignorant.

Nowhere in her posts did she say she has an open relationship. Nowhere.

Again, youre ignorant.

[Ginobilly]

if your husband knows that you're taking other on the side and doesn't mind it's because he no longer loves you and just doesn't want to go through a messy divorce and lose everything

exactly! Why get married at all if you want to keep having sex with multiple dudes? Your better off just being Bi and ordering sperm off the internet, so you and your naturalist bull could have all the sexual fun in the world. Invite the Expendables of porn: Ron Jeremy, Erik Everhard, Nacho Vidal, Rocco, Wesly Pipes, and Lexington Steel to have fun everyday in massive gangbangs while your test tube kids watch.

[bigzak25]

I think it's so odd that you said in a previous post you had an open marriage "until recently" (while proselytizing, I presume). The people I know make no claims to have all the answers. They conduct their marriage the way they want to and leave others to conduct theirs as they see fit. With whom they choose to have sex has nothing to do with how loving their families are.

I said I equate an open marriage to a husband or wife masturbating to porn.

Yes, I was one who masturbated to porn until recently. I have stopped.

It was a natural progression from my efforts to stopping lusting after women.

Which I have also accomplished.

However, I am of a live and let live philosophy.

But again, I must say that I find it tragic that so many denigrate the act of making love to someone that should be your soul mate into a simply carnal act...as if they were an animal.

[tlongII]

I do not claim to be above anything. I feel we as humans have a greater calling, and as such should be protector of our animals.

I remember cleaning out my dog's dirty water bowl in 2005. It wasn't really my dog, but my wife's uncles dog, whom I had named buddy. Anyhow, I cleaned that bowl good...and after I placed it on the ground, I drank from it.

I wanted to show God my humbleness. I don't want my dogs drinking out of a bowl that I would not want to drink out of.

So now I have shared my story with you.

Take care buddy.

What the...??!!

[Ginobilly]

I said I equate an open marriage to a husband or wife masturbating to porn.

Yes, I was one who masturbated to porn until recently. I have stopped.

It was a natural progression from my efforts to stopping lusting after women.

Which I have also accomplished.

However, I am of a live and let live philosophy.

But again, I must say that I find it tragic that so many denigrate the act of making love to someone that should be your soul mate into a simply carnal act...as if they were an animal.

AC Green forum!

[Cant_Be_Faded]

I think we need to redefine our societal concepts of "relationship" and "single"

Just like we are now coming to accept there being a spectrum of sexuality instead of "gay" or "straight" maybe the entire relationship concept is a spectrum too.

That would easily explain some of the odd behavior and tensions between so-called "couples"

[Dave Mustaine]

I think we need to redefine our societal concepts of "relationship" and "single"

Just like we are now coming to accept there being a spectrum of sexuality instead of "gay" or "straight" maybe the entire relationship concept is a spectrum too.

That would easily explain some of the odd behavior and tensions between so-called "couples"

when you get cold at night do you snuggle up with mookie's blanket shirt? Do you get jealous when he lets other men snuggle up with his shirt?

[ploto]

I do not understand the idea of entering into a marriage with someone with whom you have decided in advance your sexual relationship will not be enough for one or both of you. If you get married with this belief up front, then I do not understand why you even marry the person. If you decide this part of the way into your marriage, you should just admit you married the wrong person. I wonder how many of these people really do not love each other, but just do not want to get divorced for the kids, or the money, or whetever. So they stay married and pretend to be happy and loving but they are probably having little or no sex with each other and all or most of their sex is outside the marriage.

I do not fathom the claim that some couple is happily married and have a great sex life. The husband goes on a business trip for 2 days and the wife is fine with him banging whatever he finds in the hotel bar. He comes home and she is thrilled to have sex with him that night knowing full well he slept with some that morning. More than likely, they sleep in dfferent bedrooms, haven't touched each other in years, and they each allow it for some sort of pretence of marriage.

[Ignignokt]

lol, this thread.. This thread...

[bigzak25]

Interesting video...if it wasn't for Rhianna's stupid lines, "just gonna stand there and watch me burn, but thass alright, cuz I love the way it hurts" and "love the way you lie" then maybe it wouldn't be such a bad thing, but as it is, i shudder at the thought of middle and high school girls thinking this video is 'just the way it is'.

[CuckingFunt]

I do not understand the idea of entering into a marriage with someone with whom you have decided in advance your sexual relationship will not be enough for one or both of you. If you get married with this belief up front, then I do not understand why you even marry the person. If you decide this part of the way into your marriage, you should just admit you married the wrong person. I wonder how many of these people really do not love each other, but just do not want to get divorced for the kids, or the money, or whetever. So they stay married and pretend to be happy and loving but they are probably having little or no sex with each other and all or most of their sex is outside the marriage.

I do not fathom the claim that some couple is happily married and have a great sex life. The husband goes on a business trip for 2 days and the wife is fine with him banging whatever he finds in the hotel bar. He comes home and she is thrilled to have sex with him that night knowing full well he slept with some that morning. More than likely, they sleep in dfferent bedrooms, haven't touched each other in years, and they each allow it for some sort of pretence of marriage.

I don't claim to know what everyone does in an open relationship. But, of the many couples I have known who have had non-traditional relationship structures, exactly zero of them were the type to bang hotel bar s while away on business trips.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Which is not to say that I engage in open relationships, by the way. I have no problem keeping things casual when that's all I'm after, but I tend to be naturally physically monogamous when I love someone. Sex is still sex, though. I've been cheated on in the past, and it hurts like , but not because my boyfriend stuck his penis in someone else. The dishonesty is what hurt. The loss of trust is what hurt. The knowledge that my partner was keeping such a huge piece of himself from me is what hurt. All of those things are, to me, much more intimate than the physical act of sex.

Ok. Let me get this straight. Are you saying you didn't mind your boyfriend doing the actual cheating on you but you didn't like him not telling you about it?

[CuckingFunt]

Ok. Let me get this straight. Are you saying you didn't mind your boyfriend doing the actual cheating on you but you didn't like him not telling you about it?

No. I'm saying that the dishonesty is the part that felt more like cheating than the physical act of sex.

[ChuckD]

While you are correct that monogamy is reinforced by society, it's not the reason for it's widespread existence. Monogamy is instinctual, but it may be temporary for some people.... the question is - how long can it last? Many people have no problem being monogamous for a few years, but then they want to stray.


Almost all of the 5 great apes are territorial when it comes to mating. Heck, you can even say that almost all mammals are the same way.

1) The male wants to ensure his seed is passed on. He won't allow any other male to mate with the female. This is hard-wired in our biology for reproduction. We want our genes to spread, not another male's genes.

2) The female wants a secure, safe environment to raise the off-spring. She wants the male to stick around and provide food and safety, etc.. Having other females around are a direct risk to her and her children. It creates compe ion for food and protection, and it can affect the children's chances of survival.

The problem is, many mammals have multiple partners in their lifetimes, including the great apes. The male lion is territorial and keeps all the females to himself, but he still mates with more than one female. Chimpanzee's are the same way, you have a Male Alpha chimp who controls the troop and the mating within the troop. He doesn't share his females, but he has multiple females to mate with. In this way, females are usually always familiar with only one male partner, but the males are usually mating with more than one female.


So there is an argument that men have a biological drive in them to around....

but the body is primitive and we can't allow our bodies to control our behavior. It's the other way around. The mind controls the body, and so you CAN be happy in a monogamous relationship for the rest of your life, but it takes a certain level of development, goals, and maturity.


damn, thats a lot of words hurr durrr

Did your GF make you see a therapist after you got strange fur, because that's a lot of psychobabble and self righteousness coming from someone who can't keep his in his pants.

[ChuckD]

I do not claim to be above anything. I feel we as humans have a greater calling, and as such should be protector of our animals.

I remember cleaning out my dog's dirty water bowl in 2005. It wasn't really my dog, but my wife's uncles dog, whom I had named buddy. Anyhow, I cleaned that bowl good...and after I placed it on the ground, I drank from it.

I wanted to show God my humbleness. I don't want my dogs drinking out of a bowl that I would not want to drink out of.

So now I have shared my story with you.

Take care buddy.

You also wanted to show God your humbleness by stripping naked, giving away everything, including the company laptop, and tearing up and eating your plane ticket in Ireland. How's that working out for you?

[bigzak25]

You also wanted to show God your humbleness by stripping naked, giving away everything, including the company laptop, and tearing up and eating your plane ticket in Ireland. How's that working out for you?

Hey Chuck, everything is working out as God has planned, thanks for asking.

I am happier than I have ever been in my life...I am finally at peace.

Do you want all the details or is that good enough for you?


Also, please note that I did NOT give away the company laptop. It was stolen. I was not as diligent as I should have been in watching after it when I stepped away from it to the curbside to clean out my backpack and when I looked back, it was gone. I take full responsibility for being negligent. But I cannot give away what is not mine to give...for that is stealing, and is the opposite of what I'm all about.