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    "Harmless by-products"?

    Menacing.

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    My whole lifestyle or just spring water? In either case, the answer is yes. Personally, the costs are manageable for water. I buy two and a half gallon containers with like pull out spigots that run about 3.50 a pop. I'll use two or three a week, depending on how much water I'm drinking.

    It's far more costly than tap water, but not all that expensive in general.

    Eventually, I'm going to install an under the sink filter or buy a water cooler and sign up for home delivery of 5 gallon containers.
    I read somewhere that mostly all of the bottled and pre-packaged water come from municipal sources.

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    I read somewhere that mostly all of the bottled and pre-packaged water come from municipal sources.
    true, but...

    pfffffffffff, I ain't drinking no ing Dasani. I'm from Utah. Mount Olympus FTW.

    http://www.mowi.com/

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    "Harmless by-products"?

    Menacing.
    forest for the trees.

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    "Harmless by-products"?

    Menacing.
    you see, chump, they would never admit to putting harmful waste into water. But here, they do admit to the origin of the stuff. So we can take that as an admission on count 1, and a denial on count 2.

    But count 2 is at dispute. Even EPA scientists are trying to force us away from the practice. so there is a strong dispute on the practice.

    what is not in dispute, however, is that if the "Harmless by-products" are not dumped into our water, they will have to be disposed of as toxic waste, because they are in fact poisonous. the products themselves are labeled as such by law.

    HOW FUGGIN IRONIC IS THAT?

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    Could you give me the Cliff's Notes version of this?

    Thanks in advance.
    Instant self-scoff coming from someone who is a self-proclaimed 9/11 commission report reader.

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    you see, chump, they would never admit to putting harmful waste into water. But here, they do admit to the origin of the stuff. So we can take that as an admission on count 1, and a denial on count 2.

    But count 2 is at dispute. Even EPA scientists are trying to force us away from the practice. so there is a strong dispute on the practice.

    what is not in dispute, however, is that if the "Harmless by-products" are not dumped into our water, they will have to be disposed of as toxic waste, because they are in fact poisonous. the products themselves are labeled as such by law.

    HOW FUGGIN IRONIC IS THAT?
    Fairly. But understandable considering concentrations involved.

    Water poisoning is more ironic.

    Instant self-scoff coming from someone who is a self-proclaimed 9/11 commission report reader.
    I do instantly scoff 30 minute YouTubes. They are never worth my time.

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    Fairly. But understandable considering concentrations involved.

    Water poisoning is more ironic.

    I do instantly scoff 30 minute YouTubes. They are never worth my time.
    you are probably smart on that rule.

    Maybe take the 9 mins to watch vid 3. its worth it.

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    if the "Harmless by-products" are not dumped into our water, they will have to be disposed of as toxic waste, because they are in fact poisonous. Costly.

    vs.

    harmless in the water considering concentrations involved. at a profit to producers.
    there you have it folks
    THE LYNCHPIN.

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    there you have it folks
    THE LYNCHPIN.
    So is all the waste fluoride put into the water supply?

    Yes or no.

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    So is all the waste fluoride put into the water supply?

    Yes or no.
    I'll give you that you give me this:
    They are profiting on the waste product which would otherwise cost serious $ to dispose of:

    Yes or No.

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    Was that a yes or a no?

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    So you aren't going to answer the question.

    No problem.

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    So you aren't going to answer the question.

    No problem.
    I won't arm you for the dump, clar-rice...

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    I won't arm you for the dump, clar-rice...
    You won't answer a simple question about fluoride in the thread you started to inform people about fluoride.

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    So is all the waste fluoride put into the water supply?

    Yes or no.
    "How could anyone possibly know that?"

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    You won't answer a simple question about fluoride in the thread you started to inform people about fluoride.
    to be fair, thats not a simple question. How would any layman know the answer to this question? None on this forum even believes that the flouride used is a industrial waste product. proof positive that this subject matter is not an area of common knowledge.

    Answer the question for me and then make the intended dump. but just know this: I aint no...

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    Community is being challenged on flouridation by local teens

    http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/...wComments=true

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    How many cases of bone cancer in Huber Heights over the last forty years do the teens attribute to fluoride?

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    Guess where your fluoride comes from? China!

    by David Gutierrez, staff writer

    (NaturalNews) Much of the fluoride added to municipal water supplies across the United States is imported from China, and is contaminated with heavy metals, according to a warning by Bernard Miltenberger, president of the Pure Water Committee of Western Maryland.

    In a letter published in the berland Times-News, Miltenberger notes that he first became aware of the issue in an engineering report for the city of Boulder, Colo. The report noted that the fluoridation chemicals used for the city's water had been evaluated, and were found to contain lead levels of 40 milligrams per bag and arsenic levels of 50 milligrams per bag. The bags were being imported from China under no regulatory monitoring of acid or salt content.

    Miltenberger then visited the Frostburg Water Filtration Plant in Maryland and noticed that the fluoride bags were not labeled with any importation information. He contacted the plant's chemical supplier, Univar USA, and was then referred to Sovay fluorides. Sovay informed him that the fluoride had been manufactured by Shanghai Minthchem Development in China.

    "This type of trade from a country with a track record of lead paint on toys to antifreeze in cough syrup medicine is completely unacceptable," Miltenberger writes.

    Heavy metal contamination is only the latest concern to emerge over the practice of water fluoridation, which has been controversial since its inception. Fluoride is a well-known toxic chemical, as Miltenberger notes:

    "The material safety data sheets from Solvay fluorides show that a teaspoon amount of five grams of sodium fluoride can be fatal to an average size man of 70kg. ... chronic toxicity by oral route may cause skeletal and dental fluorosis, thyroid, testes, kidney, liver, ambiguous carcinogenic and mutagenic effects, fetotoxic and fertility effects."

    Miltenberger also notes that fluoride toothpaste contains a warning that anyone who consumes more than a pea-size amount should contact a poison control center at once. This amount of toothpaste contains as much fluoride as just eight ounces of fluoridated water. A prescription-strength fluoride supplement marketed by Colgate warns that children under the age of six should not consume doses regularly added to municipal water.

    http://www.naturalnews.com/z029477_fluoride_China.html

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    So the US importers don't test the quality of their products that go into millions of humans, and don't impose quality standards on the CHEAP CHINA mfr. It's all about profit, and everything and everybody else.

    "If man made it, don't put it in your mouth"

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    So the US importers don't test the quality of their products that go into millions of humans, and don't impose quality standards on the CHEAP CHINA mfr. It's all about profit, and everything and everybody else.

    "If man made it, don't put it in your mouth"
    What kind of toothpaste do you use?

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    Arm & Hammer

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    which type of A&H?

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