Judicial Activism Loves The Gays

[LnGrrrR]

Because lots of Americans believe they have the right to never be offended.

Lots of Americans can't find the state of Massachusetts on a map. Lots of Americans are dumb.

[Marcus Bryant]

Well, I'm glad we care about rights and liberty and what not when it's about ing and not when the state gets in your business in every other way. But we're about that then because we expect to freeload.

[MiamiHeat]

And I disagree. As you've noted, America has survived the KKK, and all the while maintaining a good deal of liberty while doing so.

But people suffered, people were killed, and it was an ugly time.

I believe it is better to prevent that from happening in the first place.

Do you think that people won't cause violence if other people don't talk about it?

For THIS type of violence :

Take away the power to recruit others, and it becomes much more isolated. Lesser impact, less frequent incidents. Less prejudice, less strife among communities.

[clambake]

The only type of "censorship" I said I would like to see was to disallow large organized groups aimed at creating trouble, inciting violence, or hating others due to things they cannot possibly change.

like the french underground.

[LnGrrrR]

How could the Nazi's censor anything when they weren't in government yet?

Before they got into power, before the elections, they went across Germany speaking to the public, and the public responded. They readily accepted his ideals. Blame this person, blame the jews, we lost World War 1 because of x people, etc and etc.

People are impressionable.

I'm not too surprised. Look at all the people in the Mosque thread who conflate being Muslim with being a terrorist. Look at all the people who say we could've won X war if it weren't for those wimpy Democrats. Etc etc. Many people who are poor and feel low on the social ladder will listen to anyone willing to give them a leg up.

The only type of "censorship" I said I would like to see was to disallow large organized groups aimed at creating trouble, inciting violence, or hating others due to things they cannot possibly change.

The problem is, when something like that goes into law, then it gradually expands until it's affecting a whole bunch more people. Or you have someone in power who says that "anti-war" protestors are possibly violent (which has happened). Or some other abuse of power.

I would rather, instead of putting that into law, that concerned citizens gather people and mount counter-protests to shame idiots in groups like the KKK.

[clambake]

little guy is feeling threatened by free speech.

he could be the beginning of "the new american".

[LnGrrrR]

Take away the power to recruit others, and it becomes much more isolated. Lesser impact, less frequent incidents. Less prejudice, less strife among communities.

And less liberty. I can see where you're coming from, but I disagree. Any law stopping a certain kind of speech will inevitably stop even more later down the road; a law designed to stop hate speech is an inexorably slippery slope.

[MiamiHeat]

little guy is feeling threatened by free speech.

he could be the beginning of "the new american".

To improve the world, good people must do something.

The strong must protect the weak.

There should be no safe place for the evil or ignorant to hide.

[clambake]

he desires to be regulated......for his own good.

[MiamiHeat]

And less liberty. I can see where you're coming from, but I disagree. Any law stopping a certain kind of speech will inevitably stop even more later down the road; a law designed to stop hate speech is an inexorably slippery slope.

I completely understand.

This is the "who gets to decide what is OK and what is not OK" argument...

I just believe we can do a good job at deciding what is OK and what is not OK.

1984 scared a lot of people, apparently.

[clambake]

epic thread

[MiamiHeat]

he desires to be regulated......for his own good.

Not for me, I don't need it.

but others do.

[clambake]

Not for me, I don't need it.

but others do.

thats a passage from mein kampf.

[ChumpDumper]

Not for me, I don't need it.

but others do.

How do you know your thoughts don't need regulation?

You aren't on the board that decides.

[MiamiHeat]

How do you know your thoughts don't need regulation?

You aren't on the board that decides.

Because the only censorship I would like to see is the organization of groups who's cause is to hate and incite violence for reasons they can't change.

I'm good on that front, thanks. I'm not a member of those groups, but thanks for being interested.

[ChumpDumper]

Because the only censorship I would like to see is the organization of groups who's cause is to hate and incite violence for reasons they can't change.

I'm good on that front, thanks. I'm not a member of those groups, but thanks for being interested.

It's not your decision to make. You gave away your rights.

[MiamiHeat]

It's not your decision to make. You gave away your rights.

[ChumpDumper]

You made your police state, now you have to live in it.

[MiamiHeat]

You made your police state, now you have to live in it.

[ChumpDumper]

[MiamiHeat]

[ChumpDumper]

Not my fault you want to give away your rights. If you had an emoticon of a thought police board, you could post that.

[Blake]

I'm still waiting to see if anyone who thinks gender preference is a choice will take my "Be gay for a week" challenge. Remember, you don't have to ACT on these desires, you just have to start finding men sexually attractive for a week, then you can switch right back. Any takers?

"when you watch porn, do you want to watch a dude with a small, flacid penis or a dude with a huge throbbing ?"

[spursncowboys]

"when you watch porn, do you want to watch a dude with a small, flacid penis or a dude with a huge throbbing ?"

[Blake]

Go ahead and stop dodging the subject.

I challenged you, can you stand up to the task or just watch, act scared, throw some jokes around and be a pussy?

You challenged me to prove that you are intellectually weak.

I won that one in incredibly easy fashion lol.

What part of this subject would you like to discuss with me that you haven't yet been buried alive on by ChumpDumper et al?