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Angle is a gotdamn idiot.
Reid will win. This is why we can't have nice things.
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I know what's best for women!!!
Angle is a gotdamn idiot.
Reid will win. This is why we can't have nice things.
The real question you have to ask is: is abortion murder?
Angle is a dream come true for Harry Reid. A blue ass ape could have beat him this fall as long as it stayed at least somewhat center-rational. That is out of her ing mind.
On the other hand, this in the article is just as ing stupid on the opposite extreme. Typical of a Rachel Maddow guest.
She then turned to political scientist Melissa Harris-Lacewell, asking, "How did even anti-abortion politics in mainstream electoral politics get so fringe-y?"
"We're in a period of deep economic anxiety," Harris-Lacewell replied, suggesting that people are trying to assert control over their own lives by controlling women's reproduction.
She also pointed to racially-based fear of illegal immigrants, which leads some people to fear that "on one hand ... there's a population that is over-reproducing. ... On the other hand, there's an anxiety about wanting, particularly, middle-class white women to produce more babies ... to counteract all of these bad anchor babies."
Birth rates among poor, undeducated people with little hope for a bright future will always be higher than for middle class families.She also pointed to racially-based fear of illegal immigrants, which leads some people to fear that "on one hand ... there's a population that is over-reproducing. ...
This is a good reason why you can't turn your back on the lower class. If an entire economic class of people goes neglected, the entire country suffers. Is it an expensive process, both in terms of energy and resources? Absolutely. But for the middle and upper class, there really is no choice if they want the nation to remain strong.
Though many would like to think that they dictate their own success, and don't want to be responsible for what happens to their "neighbor," especially one that is deemed morally and intellectually "inferior" in comparison to their own "kind," they have no way of ensuring that eventually the reach of poverty and the crippling hopeless despair that attaches to those in its clutches wont reach out with a clenched fist or a gun and take all that the "superior" holds dear.
Run to riches may well be a race, but there is a penalty for letting too many get left at the starting line. Just as the best defense comes through a strong economy and diplomacy, the best domestic policies draw on a strong economy and a reasonable saftey net for the bottom tier of society, especially for those that would do for themselves and those that cant do for themselves. And for those that wont do at all, let them dictate their own fate.
This is reality, and it is obvious for anyone with half a brain and half a heart.
And before you repugnants chime in, let me tell you I learned this lesson not in a college or university; I learned this working a decade inside a high security penitentiary here in Texas with thieves and murderers, the same types that the average repug would hope to never cross paths with.
Many born into the lower class poverty that this article speaks of.
so true. reid's seat was practically gift wrapped to the GOP, and the tea baggers ed that one up. way to play to the most vocal part of the base and forgetting you still have to win a general election.Angle is a gotdamn idiot.
Reid will win. This is why we can't have nice things.
I think you missed my point.
Look, I'm a pro-choice Republican. I wish the Republican party would just give it up on abortion. It's a divisive issue socially/politically and abortion is here to stay.
At the same time I respect that people may have religious beliefs and convictions that they simply can't square with abortion. That's fine, they have the choice not to abort.
However, I find that in the article to be totally offensive. Categorically blaming all persons anti-abortion beliefs on "fear of minorities overpopulating" is arrogant and offensive.
True. I think she's confusing anti-abortion sentiment with anti-immigrant.
I think it's safe to assume the average tea bagger is anti-everything. Almost everything anyways. Nihilism epitomized.
I get it.
The Mad Cow said so, so it must be true.
Who has unedited video or transcript evidence that any of these candidates said such a thing?
Do you lib s really believe the Mad Cow?
Besides, the Morning After Pill is available, and Paul brought that up.
Last edited by Wild Cobra; 08-08-2010 at 02:24 PM.
I think it's safe to assume that you incorrectly assume too much.
I would believe Maddow before Angle. Angle tried to erase her own public campaign website after she won the primary and threatened to sue those who repeated her original platform contained therein.
What does she have to hide?
WC, what's the matter? Tired of Maddow ripping your guys an new asshole? Last night, she absolutely destroyed your hero Billo, using Billo's own tapes to convict him as typical right-wing liar, demagogue, race-baiter.
How many edits were in that tape?
I've seen numerous videos of Angle herself saying the only reason she does any interviews is to plug her website and get donations. She is a putz. I don't even know what putz means, but she is one.
The GOP man...damn they are stupid. It's like going after the birthright 14th amendment. They had this election and they bring on negative attention to themselves by bringing this up right now when the opposition is fiercely trying to label them extreme? They dun goof'd.
I imagine several, since re-airing the entire O'Reilly show wouldn't make any sense.
I would have to agree with you on this one. Its a completely idiotic notion that people's stand against abortion has anything to do with immigration.
abortion is directed into so many issues for the very reason that it divides the populous...strategy, nothing to do with morals or religous beliefs of those politicians throwing in the monkeywrench
So?
She said "I didn't say that" when words were put in her mouth.
What's wrong with someone having such beliefs to serve in congress? You saying that such people cannot serve would amount to a religious test, because any actual believer has such a viewpoint.
I wish we could just not worry about these issues in politics.
Yet not without basis in historical fact.
Various attempts to control women's reproductive rights have often been used, in this country and elsewhere, in conjunction with efforts to marginalize/demoralize/slow the growth of oppressed groups. Depo Provera, an especially aggressive and dangerous form of birth control, is still heavily promoted within communities of color. It is/was recently fairly standard practice for Native American women on reservations to be sterilized on routine doctor visits without prior/adequate notification. During the early conflicts with the indigenous tribes here, it was actually written and promoted as an effective strategy to first go after the women, leading to not only frequent killings of women and children, but also rape and the practice of using a tribal woman's ovaries/uterus/reproductive organs to decorate one's hat or horse.
Is it accurate to assume that the fear of rising minority populations is the ONLY motivation for anti-abortion sentiment? Probably not. But it's not as if the suggestion comes completely out of left field. It's a common feminist concern for good reason.
Is it promoted only in communities of color, or in poor communities?
I know that the Social Services in Oregon promote it to the white women also.
It is much more heavily promoted in communities of color and in lower class communities than in affluent/white communities. Or, at least, it historically has been, even when the dangers and potential complications were known.
So she believes it, but she just didn't say it? Oh ok, that's much better.
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