Nothing gives a person an advantage in golf. There are short guys that are way better than tall guys. Its all about skill and the mental aspect of the game. Physic doesn't really matter at all.
there are short guys who are better than tall guys at basketball, does that mean height doesn't give someone an advantage at basketball? If you don't think physical talent such as flexibility, height and coordination doesn't have anything to do with golf, then you're either re ed or you attended UTSA.
lol UTSA
lol UTSA
Damn you are stupid.........and the lol Utsa is just as stupid, because you can ask any golfer if height gives you an advantage and they will tell you NO idiot!!!! Do you even play golf?
What matters WAY more in golf is technique.
At my best I was around a 5 handicap and have played for most of my life. Granted I've only played a few times in the last 2 years, I'm quite confident I'd win a match against you handedly, so yes, I know plenty about golf.Damn you are stupid.........and the lol Utsa is just as stupid, because you can ask any golfer if height gives you an advantage and they will tell you NO idiot!!!! Do you even play golf?
Just curious, how many golfers have you asked whether or not height is advantageous, and do you even play golf?
Never asked..........but, I will tell you this. Some of the best golfers Ive ever seen or played are 5'-9" - 6'. Now if height mattered, how come there are no 6'-5" or taller players that rule the golf world? You should know that technique matter more than anything when it comes to golf. Especially since you play and appear to be pretty good.
, I know a golfer right now that is damn near 75yrs old, who is unable to do much work because of back issues...........he always hits low 80's and dips into the 70's. He is only 5'-9".
, I will make a poll.
NICE!!! I love golf.
Golf is not a Sport. How many times must this be rehashed.
It's good to have something that gets you up and about when you reach your 80's though.
Golf, IMO, is a sport but to each his own. There are out of shape athletes in every sport. , some can't even pass a test to practice in the NFL.
I never said technique wasn't a lot more important than height, it obviously is. I said being tall is advantageous in golf, and most of the time it is. The taller someone is, the easier it is for them to generate club speed and consequently the easier it is to get distance. It's the same concept as tall pitchers in baseball, the longer the arm the more velocity the pitcher can get. Yes, pitching fundamentals are 100x more important than height, and some of the best pitchers in baseball (Roy Oswalt, Tim Lince ) are on the short side, but it's obvious that being tall generally makes someone capable of being a better pitcher.Never asked..........but, I will tell you this. Some of the best golfers Ive ever seen or played are 5'-9" - 6'. Now if height mattered, how come there are no 6'-5" or taller players that rule the golf world? You should know that technique matter more than anything when it comes to golf. Especially since you play and appear to be pretty good.
, I know a golfer right now that is damn near 75yrs old, who is unable to do much work because of back issues...........he always hits low 80's and dips into the 70's. He is only 5'-9".
, I will make a poll.
This is a very small sample size, but look at the heights of the top 7 moneymakers so far this year:
1. Ernie Els 6'3"
2. Jeff Overton 6'4"
3. Phil Mickelson 6'3"
4. Hunter Mahan 5'11"
5. Jim Furyk 6'2"
6. Justin Rose 6'3"
7. Steve Stricker 6'0"
http://www.pgatour.com/players/02/97/18/
The average height of that group is around 6'2". The average male height is somewhere between 5'8" - 5'10". Are you saying it's just coincidence that group's mean height is 4-6 inches taller than the average male height?
As far as your 6'5" question goes, it's probably related to coordination. The typical 6'5+" guy is uncoordinated, awkward, and probably struggles to build muscle memory in any sort of thing. Considering putting is 5% technique, 5% mental/golf IQ and 90% building muscle memory (if you think I'm making that up just look at how many different putting forms pros use, there's no putting form that is universally known as fundamentally correct), it's something the average gangly uncoordinated 6'5"+ guy would do terribly at.
Last edited by DUNCANownsKOBE2; 08-10-2010 at 11:38 AM.
I got ya, but what about the other golfers that are short and are really successful? Anthony Kim, Casey Anthony among them. Also, many golfers area NOT physically fit at all. Phil Mickelson has a bigger rack than most women.
Sorry I edited my post to put a good comparison in there.I got ya, but what about the other golfers that are short and are really successful? Anthony Kim, Casey Anthony among them. Also, many golfers area NOT physically fit at all. Phil Mickelson has a bigger rack than most women.
Phil Mickelson is still overweight, but he used to be a lot bigger and his weight has always hurt him. There have several majors (most notably the US Open at Winged Foot) where it was his tournament to win at some point in the final round. Unfortunately, all the walking/swinging he had been doing the week of said majors always took a toll on his lower body before the end of the final round. When someone's legs are shot, they start taking longer, eratic swings to compensate for the lack of club speed they can generate with their lower body. This leads to shots like the one Mickelson hit off the 18th tee at Winged Foot.
Do you understand context? No one is arguing about whether height is a factor in golf. It doesn't take a rocket scientist or physician to know that taller generally = bigger body = able to swing a club harder. What I said, was that Oliver Miller being overweight isn't some shining beacon for that fat guy at the rec center so he's thinking he has a chance at the pros. Miller was near 6'10 even if he was overweight. You can't say the same for Daly or golf.
Power in golf generally comes down to how far past the angle your hips turn your shoulders are able to turn. This, along with flexibility, decreases as you get older, and your power decreases. Swing speed is a factor, but that is also related to how far you can turn. Actively trying to swing harder since you are strong or tall doesn't help at all. You can retain a high swing speed and have it appear effortless.
Yup, he started sliding his hips instead of turning them. Usually results in a push.
I have hopes that he'll be working with a new swing coach to get his golf game back on track. Anything to keep Phil from the top spot.
These people don't understand the reference. They don't understand the basic, fundamental rules or mechanics of the game. They know nothing about common knowledge inherent to the PGA. And the thesis of their argument seems to be that golf isn't basketball???This leads to shots like the one Mickelson hit off the 18th tee at Winged Foot.
Sorry misread your original quote.
And it's not like John Daly is a shining beacon for the fat out of shape regular at the local municipal course so he's thinking he has a chance at being a pro.
Any experienced golfer knows that Daly's swing has too many jacked up fundamental flaws to count. The picture you posted shows several examples of that by itself. Daly isn't some unathletic, untalented hack who was able to master the fundamentals of golf since apparently as so many non-golfers have said in this thread you don't need any athleticism to play golf, he's a lazy guy who found a sport that comes naturally to him and is also a sport where he can get away with being fat.
No one is trying to say golfers needs athleticism and good fitness just as much as basketball players do, I'm saying the notion that being in shape and flexible/coordinated/quicker/however you wanna define athletic does nothing to make you a better golfer is stupid. Golf is more skill based and less talent based than basketball (to a large degree), but it's still a sport that comes easier to the "natural athlete" than to someone who isn't as flexible, as big or as coordinated.
There are a tiny number of people like Oliver Miller, Dejuan Blair and Glen Davis who have been/were able to maintain an NBA career while being out of shape and fat (even someone like Shaq who was such a freak athlete he could lead a HoF career while never caring about conditioning), and in almost all cases, they would have been way better basketball players had they cared about being in shape.
There are people like CC Sabathia, Livan Hernandez, and David Wells who were/are able to be fat and still pitch at a major league level, and just like Oliver Miller or Glen Davis, them being fat hurt their ability to pitch and they would have been/would be even better if they cared about being in good physical shape.
Likewise, there are people like John Daly and to a lesser extent Phil Mickelson who are able to be fat and still be professional tour golfers. At the same time, being out of shape and fat has cost them tournaments and given them swing problems they would not have had if they were in good shape.
Last edited by nkdlunch; 08-10-2010 at 03:28 PM.
Looks like Tiger is getting his mojo back. He's in the lead in the PGA championship and -3 thru 5 holes.yeah, it is early but a good sign.
X2Looks like Tiger is getting his mojo back. He's in the lead in the PGA championship and -3 thru 5 holes.
If he wins this tourney, all the Tiger "falling off" talk will disappear.
Either Foley worked a miracle or Tiger went out and got laid.
Back to -1 after bogeying the par 5 2nd (his 11th hole). Very important for his psyche to keep it in red numbers today. Leaders are currently at -4.Looks like Tiger is getting his mojo back. He's in the lead in the PGA championship and -3 thru 5 holes.
God damn this guy used to NEVER bogey par 5's. When he was on his game they were automatic birdies.
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