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    Hal-The weather is beyond perfect, mid 70’s with a costal breeze…Everything in my area has already burned-up over the past three years, we don’t have any fires…(Other than the ones YOU TEXANS will be putting out when Congress makes you fiscal responsible folks bail out our state…

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    Did you actually look at that thing you linked?

    Israel is right behind Iraq and Afghanistan, where we are pouring money for obvious reasons. Heck, Israel gets more money than what the US gives the entire Western Hemisphere combined.

    What for exactly?

    I don't necessarily agree about cutting all the aid, but if you're going to trim in that area, Israel should get a sizeable cut.
    So you are bigoted specifically against Jews. Nice.

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    Hal-The weather is beyond perfect, mid 70’s with a costal breeze…Everything in my area has already burned-up over the past three years, we don’t have any fires…(Other than the ones YOU TEXANS will be putting out when Congress makes you fiscal responsible folks bail out our state…

    I may have to come out there and injure you, you keep rubbing it in with
    that weather report.......hot as you know what and I have been bragging
    about no 100 degree days here.

    Yeah, and we have a governor who is running again for the nth time and
    no doubt in my mind has visions of grandeur of being president in 2012.

    Thank goodness the governor in Texas has very little power except
    the power of talking. Lt. Governor has the power.

    And a Dimm-o-crap wannabe governor who is more Liberal than Obama.

    But no matter.

    Hey watched "Two Jacks" the other night on TV. Thought about you.

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    So you are bigoted specifically against Jews. Nice.
    You keep inferring things that are not true.

    I support cuts across the board, not just Israel, and stated so.

    You didn't answer the question either: What is it exactly we're sending a good chunk of change to Israel for exactly?

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    You keep inferring things that are not true.

    I support cuts across the board, not just Israel, and stated so.

    You didn't answer the question either: What is it exactly we're sending a good chunk of change to Israel for exactly?
    if I know.

    I wouldn't mind eliminating all foreign aid, I'm just not gonna single out the Jews to pick on.

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    if I know.

    I wouldn't mind eliminating all foreign aid, I'm just not gonna single out the Jews to pick on.
    I don't think cutting all aid is a good idea. At the same time, I'd like to know what we're getting for our money.

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    if I know.

    I wouldn't mind eliminating all foreign aid, I'm just not gonna single out the Jews to pick on.
    come on man...all for military intervention with countries we have no business engaging but all for setting the diplomacy level at 0?

    this is as naive and neo-con as it gets.

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    come on man...all for military intervention with countries we have no business engaging but all for setting the diplomacy level at 0?

    this is as naive and neo-con as it gets.
    You have me confused with someone else. I've been saying for years there was no such thing as a win in Afghanistan.

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    if I know.

    I wouldn't mind eliminating all foreign aid, I'm just not gonna single out the Jews to pick on.
    OK, but that 'federal aid' is really just a stipend for the industrial/military complex because they must use the money to buy US military equipment...

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    You have me confused with someone else. I've been saying for years there was no such thing as a win in Afghanistan.
    i talked with an officer from afghanistan yesterday...just got home.

    he said they dont even know why they are there. he said they dont understand the orders coming down from top generals, that they seem to have alterior motives...especially when they advocate stuff like selling our military equipment to the afghans...equip that only about half of our guys have access too.

    (its aboout $$$)

    he also said he is going to invest in some companies that might get in on the mineral extraction for that recently discovered zinc or magnesium or whatever...

    he said that there are enough minerals in afghanistan to pay off half of our national debt.

    (unwinable? not if the aim is $$$)

    he said that humvees and other equipment are being used and then reconditioned to sell after they are put down, to other countries ($$$)

    war is a fuggin racket

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    OK, but that 'federal aid' is really just a stipend for the industrial/military complex because they must use the money to buy US military equipment...
    Look...it's unrealistic to think we don't need a military.

    That being said, I'm not in favor of just cavalierly jumping into random engagements without some serious provocation.

    When and if we do, however, I want our guys to be the best trained in the world and have the best kick-ass equipment in the world. Is there a lot of waste in military spending? yes, but the monotonous hateful droning in here against the "military-industrial complex" is another typical knee jerk bull reaction. It's not black or white and either-or. I'm all for a lean and mean as military and it should be the objective of both Republicans and Democrats that we have one.

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    so we have the oil...we have the minerals...who else has something we want?

    we've got this big bad military machine we have to demo and sell to countries around the world it seems...

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    one last thing...

    i asked him the million dollar question: where is osama?

    he said they know exactly where he is...they dont want him.

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    so we have the oil...we have the minerals...who else has something we want?

    we've got this big bad military machine we have to demo and sell to countries around the world it seems...
    What a fool.

    If Iraq was all about oil why did the new Iraqi government get 100% control of it's oil?

    Same with Afghanistan. We aren't gonna get out of those mineral deposits.

    Your cynical view of the world refuses to accept that our US foreign policy/state department is super liberal and altruistic. There simply aren't any oil/mineral grabs happening.

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    one last thing...

    i asked him the million dollar question: where is osama?

    he said they know exactly where he is...they dont want him.


    Maybe Obama's saving him for the 2012 election...

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    Four pages later, the conclusion is inescapable. This country is ed.

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    Not really, just get rid of the federal reserve and let the govt print its own money...the price to the economy will be periods of inflation and deflation but it could wipe most of the debt right off the books...

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    crofl.

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    What a fool.

    If Iraq was all about oil why did the new Iraqi government get 100% control of it's oil?

    Same with Afghanistan. We aren't gonna get out of those mineral deposits.

    Your cynical view of the world refuses to accept that our US foreign policy/state department is super liberal and altruistic. There simply aren't any oil/mineral grabs happening.
    its not we, the taxpayers, simpleton.

    its they, the political contributors, the firms that get the contracts.
    since when does our govt act in the best interests of the people

    not when they are paid through political contributions and bribes to politicians
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    Maybe Obama's saving him for the 2012 election...
    look man, the guy was an officer stationed in kabul...in and out of central command there.

    his explanation makes a load of sense:
    if we bag bin laden...the demand for the boys to come home is going to impede the real reason they are over there. which he isnt clear what that reason actually is.

    he said bin laden could be had in less than two hours if that was the objective.

    how easily can the people be led to believe what they are told?

    how easily can sheep be led from one pasture to another?

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    its not we, the taxpayers, simpleton.

    its they, the political contributors, the firms that get the contracts.
    since when does our govt act in the best interests of the people

    not when they are paid through political contributions
    I'M the simpleton?

    Who got the Iraqi oil contracts? Are you saying it's all US companies?

    And BTW of course I know politicians of both parties are susceptible to contribution corruption.

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    Sorry, continue on with your woe-is-us thread..

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    I'M the simpleton?

    Who got the Iraqi oil contracts? Are you saying it's all US companies?

    And BTW of course I know politicians of both parties are susceptible to contribution corruption.
    agreed. but the "who" that got the contracts is the same "who" that greases the pockets of gov officials in our country

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    Yeah, I suppose when hyperinflation is a perfectly palatable option, there's no problem here.

    All that would accomplish is expediting the process.

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    look man, the guy was an officer stationed in kabul...in and out of central command there.

    his explanation makes a load of sense:
    if we bag bin laden...the demand for the boys to come home is going to impede the real reason they are over there. which he isnt clear what that reason actually is.

    he said bin laden could be had in less than two hours if that was the objective.

    how easily can the people be led to believe what they are told?

    how easily can sheep be led from one pasture to another?
    Look my tinfoiled sheeplehead. Let me break this down for you.

    Obama doesn't give a rats ass about the long term goal (of which we have none) in Afghanistan. None. Zero.

    He cares about his popularity...which is falling like a ing piano kicked out the back of a C17.

    If BinLaden was really available at 2 hours notice he would nab his ass, dance a jig, and announce "Mission Accomplished"!

    And yes, dumbass the mission accomplished reference was intentional.

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