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Sucks, but it's part of the game now. So I guess we just have to deal with it.
As a spur fan, I'm sick to my stomach at how the league has transformed in just a short period, beginning with the player collusion that occurred in Boston a couple of years back/Gasol trade to Los Angeles for a pack of glazed donuts.
Now this has occurred during the offseason culminating in a gathering of two of the worlds best players on the same team (Miami).
Next year, we might see this again with Melo, TP, and any other player that is hungry to win.
This totally goes against the Spurs philosophy for the past decade. To those who disagree with me, you will point out to the fact that we added Duncan when we already had Robinson. Let me point out that we did this through the draft, and we did it not by bribing, or by asking, we earned that last pick because of how bad the team was that year.
Sucks, but it's part of the game now. So I guess we just have to deal with it.
doesnt help when its a long summer and nothing to write about so they spew up bull trades to get into players minds hoping one bites
You can say what you want but if the Spurs had the chance to pull up such a trade they would not have hesitated a second. Big markets are more appealing to star players. That's how it is and how it always has been.
i dont think they would have pulled off the whole thing i think the spurs would have done it differently if i were to guessthey would much rather want wade and bosh than lebron.
Screw overtly tanking for the number 1 pick. Show some dignity while losing.
Like whining for a trade when "your" team misses the playoffs?
basketball is a team game, so any player that is supposed to be "THE ONE" is overrated, therefore i don't mind seeing miami or boston getting multiple big stars.
Look man, if in 2008, the grizzlies called and said "We will trade you Pau Gasol for Francisco Elson, Damon Stoudamire, and a number 2" we would have done it. Simple as that. It most certainly looks like collusion, but to say we don't make that trade is ludicrous.
well i thought we were talking about the lebronbosh acquisition and not a general statement of course i think the spurs would pull big moves if they could i was just referring to the lebron BS
Oh, ok, well I am sure that if Lebron and Bosh decided that they really respected Tim Duncan, and wanted to play with him, the Spurs wouldn't say no.
At least the Lakers didn't overtly tank like complete es. LA builds their championships through front office savvy and not defeatism like the Spurs.
Player collusion? Guys want to go where they can enjoy themselves and win.
If this was prime Duncan, then guys would want to come to SA. Duncan has passed his prime so its all on the front office to get crafty with trades, drafts, and signings.
Nothing wrong with SA except for the fact that Duncan is on the downside. If (likely the draft) they get another superstar player, more guys will come.
21 D-Bags at it again. You are either an incompetent troll or a complete moron (the latter is probably accurate).
It is not front office savvy when you trade garbage/washed up players for quality players or #1 picks. The Lakers for forty freakin years have acquired players like Chamberlain, Jabbar, Magic, Worthy, Scott, Shaq, Kobe, Gasol. In each and every case the Lakers traded washed up players, bad players, low 1st round picks, or just bought the player like O'Neal. 21 D-bags might be smart enough to look those trades up.
Your whining about the Spurs rings hollow really, 21 D-bags. The Spurs have had four or five top ten draft picks during their entire NBA history, and yet they put out a really good product. The two teams that resulted in #1 lottery picks in no way shape or form guaranteed to get the top pick. The 86-87 team was horrible and the 96-97 lost their top two or three players for 1/2 to 3/4 of the season. Playing David Robinson for 15 games at the end of a lost season would have been STUPID - your beloved Lakers would have done the same thing in the same situation. The Lakers didn't have to worry about a bad record in 1996-97 because they just bought O'Neal (for no compensation) and acquired Bryant for a guy with one year left on his contract that they neither wanted nor needed (Divac).
The Lakers never had to go to the bottom of the league because they always had a weak sister team they could rip off. The Spurs recent success is a whole lot more legitimate that the Lakers. That is a fact.
The funny thing is if the Lakers fall back in the next few years, if Bryant breakes down or a major injury hits the Lakers, 90% of these Laker posters will disappear, just like from 2004-2007.
Last edited by Harry Callahan; 08-12-2010 at 09:41 AM.
You forgot to mention that Kobe forced the action to the Lakers too.
That's correct. It was beneath Kobe to play for the Charlotte Hornets. Idiot Bob Bass let him go to LA.
And we would call it what it would be, collusion.
Not like Laker bag marketing puppet who tries to spin it as "front office savvy" or "Kobme was such a lure".
If the Spurs were trying to tank for Duncan, they certainly didn't do a very good job at it.
The Spurs won 6 of their last 22 games that season, compared to 2 for the Grizzlies, 3 for the Celtics, and 3 for the Nuggets.
It the Spurs were tanking, why would they give players like Elliott, Johnson and Del Negro 30+ minutes?
I knew his grand daughter, went to school with her. She cut off half of my rat tail in 6th grade. Years later, saw her at SAC, she told me she did that because she liked me. LOL
(oh, BTW, I was total white trash (classic rock not country white trash). I had the plastic mesh net shirts and everything).
LOL that right there tells you how bad we were that year without Robinson.
"what do you mean you think we were tanking, we played AVERY JOHNSON AND VINNY DEL NEGRO, we would have played far lesser talents than that if we were tanking."
Pure awesome.
Really? Names like Jason Kidd and Jermaine O'neal come to mind...
Our leading scorer that year was Dominique Wilkins. Yes, the former human highlight film at 37 or 38 years of age was our go to guy that year.
His jersey number was 21 (throughout his career). We got a little better player in the #21 the next year.
Duncan was closer to his prime then (and they still didn't come btw). But a few years ago, Duncan still had some ball left in him.
Now? He's playing out the string. It happens to almost everyone but Duncan is now a shadow of himself. No shame in that.
Oh I remember, though I will be honest with everyone here, that season wasn't as painful for me as it was for everyone else here. I was an exchange student in Germany in 96-97, so I was unable to watch, and could only keep up with box scores over the internet.
You're either doing a really bad job of trolling or you don't know what you're talking about.
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