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    Smell The Wallet Soul_Patch's Avatar
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    I am considering attempting to get an MBA through UTSA. I have about 10 to 12 years of professional experience in my field. I would like to parlay that into a project mgmt, or IS Mgmt type role.

    My problems are 1, my undergrad degree is in psychology (lol)....and my GPA isnt that great.

    Do you think trying to pursue an MBA is going to be worth it? Do you think getting an MBA from University of Phoenix online is worth it, or is it pretty much trash?

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    Ur a fkn wanker Venti Quattro's Avatar
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    If you're not into managing a company, don't. It's useless. Just take a master's degree related to your undergrad or your line of work.

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    I am working on mine at UTSA. The program is pretty good, and they also have a career services guy that has a lot of contacts at local, national, and international companies if you are looking to change employers. Because of your undergrad, you will likely have to take some leveling courses (up to 6 or so). As far as your undergrad GPA, that can only keep you from being accepted (in which case it only costs you the $45 app fee). The classes are all in the evening or on the weekend. (my fall is M & Th from 7-9:45, Sat from 9-5 every other week for 10 weeks (5 meetings). This is for 3 classes.

    As far as UOP, you have two sides, one lumps in with all for-profits (career point, etc), the other side is that there are a lot of alums in high ranking positions (white house cyber-security coordinator for example). You take 1 class at a time, 6 weeks long, and its back to back to back to back until you finish.

    If you can go full time to UTSA, they will both take you about the same amount of time.

    I think what it boils down to for you, is your schedule, your time frame, and your abilities.

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    Well isnt that what an MBA is? A Masters of Business Administration?

    Im not going to get a masters in psychology. That would cost me another 40k in school expenses, and when i get out i get to make about half of what i am making now without it.

    I want to make myself more marketable around my established experience. 12 years in "IT" work (whatever that means) coupled with an MBA with a MIS focus sounds like it could have potential. Or maybe im wrong??

    Im not necessarily wanting to manage an entire company, no...but having my bosses job sounds fairly good to me...even a potential CIO spot sounds great somewhere down the line.

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    Well isnt that what an MBA is? A Masters of Business Administration?

    Im not going to get a masters in psychology. That would cost me another 40k in school expenses, and when i get out i get to make about half of what i am making now without it.

    I want to make myself more marketable around my established experience. 12 years in "IT" work (whatever that means) coupled with an MBA with a MIS focus sounds like it could have potential. Or maybe im wrong??

    Im not necessarily wanting to manage an entire company, no...but having my bosses job sounds fairly good to me...even a potential CIO spot sounds great somewhere down the line.
    Then yes, you need an MBA if this is your goal.

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    Ur a fkn wanker Venti Quattro's Avatar
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    Well isnt that what an MBA is? A Masters of Business Administration?

    Im not going to get a masters in psychology. That would cost me another 40k in school expenses, and when i get out i get to make about half of what i am making now without it.

    I want to make myself more marketable around my established experience. 12 years in "IT" work (whatever that means) coupled with an MBA with a MIS focus sounds like it could have potential. Or maybe im wrong??

    Im not necessarily wanting to manage an entire company, no...but having my bosses job sounds fairly good to me...even a potential CIO spot sounds great somewhere down the line.
    my bad, yes take it. you definitely need it

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    I am working on mine at UTSA. The program is pretty good, and they also have a career services guy that has a lot of contacts at local, national, and international companies if you are looking to change employers. Because of your undergrad, you will likely have to take some leveling courses (up to 6 or so). As far as your undergrad GPA, that can only keep you from being accepted (in which case it only costs you the $45 app fee). The classes are all in the evening or on the weekend. (my fall is M & Th from 7-9:45, Sat from 9-5 every other week for 10 weeks (5 meetings). This is for 3 classes.

    As far as UOP, you have two sides, one lumps in with all for-profits (career point, etc), the other side is that there are a lot of alums in high ranking positions (white house cyber-security coordinator for example). You take 1 class at a time, 6 weeks long, and its back to back to back to back until you finish.

    If you can go full time to UTSA, they will both take you about the same amount of time.

    I think what it boils down to for you, is your schedule, your time frame, and your abilities.
    Thanks, great info. How much does your GMAT score weigh into being accepted, or is that even possible to know?

    I could get stellar letters of recommendation from my current employer, i have a pretty progressive work history (increasing in difficulty, etc), im pretty sure, given some study time, i could kick ass on the GMAT. Wondering how much my GPA would hurt me...its about a 2.79 i think.

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    i'm thinking about going for a business degree but how far in i have no idea. just went back and signed up today to finish my associates i left behind yrs ago. 2 classes and i'm off to a university. hopefully if all goes well i will be working on my business/design degree(s) starting in january.

    good luck with whatever route you decide to take!

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    No. Just give up on life.

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    LMAO koriwhat's Avatar
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    No. Just give up on life.

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    Thanks, great info. How much does your GMAT score weigh into being accepted, or is that even possible to know?

    I could get stellar letters of recommendation from my current employer, i have a pretty progressive work history (increasing in difficulty, etc), im pretty sure, given some study time, i could kick ass on the GMAT. Wondering how much my GPA would hurt me...its about a 2.79 i think.
    Well, I did ask at UTSA and they said since I had a 3.57 undergrad, that I could make a 500 and still likely get in. Below a 3.0, the guy said you would have to make a 550 to have a chance to get in. The grad student at UTSA scored a 600. (I got a 660 with a 6 in the writing portion). I have the 2010 GMAT study guide from princeton review, if you want to borrow it, let me know.

    Uop = no gmat requirement

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    The best thing about a MBA is it's an instant command of a higher salary over a bachelor's degree, and it gets you to the top of any resume search from an employer where the MBA is required. I can tell you from experience that my MBA was worth about a 50% increase in my salary from the job I had to the job I now have. I work in finance though, where the work is more steady and in demand. I also have another $30k in student loans since the first employer didn't care that I went back to school, so I'm on the hook for the cost.

    Do you work in project mgt or IS mgt now? the MBA may be worth it, but a cert in either of those fields may do you just as well for a fraction of the cost.

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    It will definitely be worth it if you can do it without too much trouble. Phoenix online would probably be easier and more convenient for you but it will definitely be more expensive than UTSA.

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    It will definitely be worth it if you can do it without too much trouble. Phoenix online would probably be easier and more convenient for you but it will definitely be more expensive than UTSA.
    Tuition Absolutely, but if you include tuition fees and books it becomes pretty close.

    Also, UOP has a campus here in san antonio.

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    I get calls from MBA's all the time that want to convince me to pay them to come in and advise me on how to improve my business. I always ask them, if you are so ing good, why don't you have your own business?

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    I get calls from MBA's all the time that want to convince me to pay them to come in and advise me on how to improve my business. I always ask them, if you are so ing good, why don't you have your own business?
    They do, it is called self employed efficiency expert.

    My dad does this (one of the many many many many many things he does), the difference is that he was civil service for 25 years prior to that, developed a lot of contacts primarily in the aerospace industry, but also in many other industries and is never in a position where he has to call anyone to get a job. He started working on his website, but had to put that on the backburner because he is too busy with work (all of it), that website has looked the same for the past 8 years. LOL

    It is a real job though. Oh and if they are young, they are doing it wrong. You have to have connections who know you are a quality person or it will kill you getting clients.

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    They do, it is called self employed efficiency expert.

    My dad does this (one of the many many many many many things he does), the difference is that he was civil service for 25 years prior to that, developed a lot of contacts primarily in the aerospace industry, but also in many other industries and is never in a position where he has to call anyone to get a job. He started working on his website, but had to put that on the backburner because he is too busy with work (all of it), that website has looked the same for the past 8 years. LOL

    It is a real job though. Oh and if they are young, they are doing it wrong. You have to have connections who know you are a quality person or it will kill you getting clients.
    I'm not saying your dad isn't great, but I just find it humorous that some kid fresh out of UTSA is gonna come into my small, successful, technically oriented business and expect me to willingly pay him thousands of dollars to "advise" me on how to run the business just because he has a piece of paper that says he is an MBA.

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    I'm not saying your dad isn't great, but I just find it humorous that some kid fresh out of UTSA is gonna come into my small, successful, technically oriented business and expect me to willingly pay him thousands of dollars to "advise" me on how to run the business just because he has a piece of paper that says he is an MBA.
    Like I said, if youre young, youre doing it wrong. I am not saying it is impossible, but my dad basically opened his business, and hasn't stopped working since (it helps that he is into just about everything, his background is in aerospace, and he gets invited to galas [I was like WTF?] for the medical community for example). For this particular type of business, knowing people who know your work and character is everything.

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    On a serious note, imo I think getting a bachelors degree in Business is totally wasteful unless you have a great thing going for you post-college. An MBA however, is market worthy.

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    I'm not saying your dad isn't great, but I just find it humorous that some kid fresh out of UTSA is gonna come into my small, successful, technically oriented business and expect me to willingly pay him thousands of dollars to "advise" me on how to run the business just because he has a piece of paper that says he is an MBA.

    That is exactly why you will never amount to anything more than a richer who owns his own business, has a real working cow ranch, a horse barn with cable TV & A/C…Lots of toys, nice rifles, fishing gear, golf carts, SUV’s, and multiple bar be ques…Its your at ude that is holding you back Cosmic…

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    That is exactly why you will never amount to anything more than a richer who owns his own business, has a real working cow ranch, a horse barn with cable TV & A/C…Lots of toys, nice rifles, fishing gear, golf carts, SUV’s, and multiple bar be ques…Its your at ude that is holding you back Cosmic…

    Cosmic, what is your number, I will stash it away for, say Mid-may 2012, then I will give you a call. LOL

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    On a serious note, imo I think getting a bachelors degree in Business is totally wasteful unless you have a great thing going for you post-college. An MBA however, is market worthy.
    Basically, it is mildly beneficial, but you about hit the nail on the head. I essentially saw my bachelors giving me abilities to open up doors . . . to grad school.

    LOL

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    I love how 1 or 2 people can come into a thread (ahem koriwhat) and turn it into complete crap.


    That being said, I say go for it. Whether you pick UOP or UTSA it could be worth it. Have you thought about Devry? They have the Keller School of Management. One of my co-workers is an Admissions Rep there if you want more info about it.

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    I'm sad there have been so many replies to this thread and not one person has shot down the UoP idea and in fact some have mentioned it as if it is an actual viable option. I'm fairly certain that the vast majority of employers will actually think you less attractive with a degree of any sort from the UoP.

    UTSA is made fun of quite a bit on here (rightfully so) but UoP is like UTSA's re ed cousin who was a byproduct of incest and then drop on its soft little head as a baby. Its just a terrible terrible waste of money.

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    If you're referring to University of Phoenix then

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