And if there were a bunch of little University of Phoenix sack swingers running around this forum like UoP was an elite college, I'd be giving those guys as much as the UTSA crew gets.
I was shocked too.
But, to each their own. Not everyone goes for non-profit schools I guess. One of my co-workers got her MPH (masters of public health) from UoP and complains daily that she cannot find another job other than her CM job. And she's continuing on with them to get some type of education certificate sort of thing. I mean, whatever. To each their own.
Oh yeah, I also forgot to mention that I personally feel you would be better off getting a masters in your desired field and then putting in time and getting the applicable experience to move into management. I'm not sure if this is realistically the way things are viewed in the corporate world today but I would imagine real world experience counts for a lot more in the day to day operations of a business and having the knowledge of your chosen field would help you acquire that.
I also don't think you can automatically make yourself more marketable simply by going back and getting something like an MBA today because record numbers of people are going back to school for the same reason. It happens every time the economy is down and I'd honestly have to imagine that the number of people going back with a psychology degree such as yourself are more than those with say an engineering degree. If you're looking to separate yourself I'm not sure an MBA is the right course to take.
If I was an employer I would likely never hire someone who went to that degree mill. Those degrees carry absolutely no weight.I was shocked too.
But, to each their own. Not everyone goes for non-profit schools I guess. One of my co-workers got her MPH (masters of public health) from UoP and complains daily that she cannot find another job other than her CM job. And she's continuing on with them to get some type of education certificate sort of thing. I mean, whatever. To each their own.
Especially if I was a business. Who the would wanna trust someone with their business who is so inept with money that he/she pisses money away at the UoP.
What you can do is try to make some contacts with HR departments or heads of local firms and ask them what they look for in a candidate. I think you might get some good advice and I think they would likely be more than willing to give you the information you're seeking in this thread.
Also, it would be an excellent way to develop network contacts and build relationships should you actually go through with getting an MBA (or even if not).
I've found that if you're not afraid to ask the people who make decisions how they make those decisions they tend to be more than happy to share that information with you.
If you're serious about staying in the same line of work - IT - then I wouldn't bother with the MBA. Everyone and their mother is getting an MBA, and it's teaching skills that are largely proprietary within a company (meaning that a mentor at your company could pass that knowledge on, if you're interested in staying around). If you want an advanced degree for IT, there's always an MS in Information Science, which gives you a little more cred with IT people, and it teaches more academic theory in information systems application. If you want a higher level IT position, then you're going to need to be able to confidently evaluate and recommend new technologies/programs.
Oh, and unless the guy that's interviewing you has a degree from UoP, I wouldn't even entertain the idea, especially after you've already gotten a degree from a physical ins ution. It looks half-assed.
Since it seems that you are really the only driver of making fun of UTSA on the site:
Businessweek named UTSA #3 in the southwest region and #26 nationwide for their Flex MBA program (non traditional times like evening, weekend, etc) last year. This year there was a slide to #'s 4 and 28, respectively - still very good.
Lest you think that the ranking methodology is jacked up in some way:
LinkOur newest ranking—of part-time MBA programs—is by far the most complex. It's based on three separate measures of student satisfaction, academic quality, and post-graduation outcomes.
I don't think that anyone recommended UOP (or UTSA for that matter), and since I believe I was the only one who mentioned UOP, I can promise you that I was only stating the facts. I was not trying to sway opinion one way or another. He asked for info, I gave it.
Um, did you not just recommend DeVry? The same DeVry listed on the NYSE with a stock symbol of DV??I was shocked too.
But, to each their own. Not everyone goes for non-profit schools I guess. One of my co-workers got her MPH (masters of public health) from UoP and complains daily that she cannot find another job other than her CM job. And she's continuing on with them to get some type of education certificate sort of thing. I mean, whatever. To each their own.
Edit: excuse me, I made a mistake in understanding the tone of your post. No conflict here. Must be my UTSA education.
Devry is terrible as well.
Must be.
And have you heard about the regulations that the for-profit schools will be under soon? Crazyyy.
http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...sed-rules.html
Thats because thats their schtick. Get students in, give them a education and have the fund it with student loans. PROFIT!
That is great. Is this only going to affect for-profit or is it for all schools?
And have you heard about the regulations that the for-profit schools will be under soon? Crazyyy.
http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...sed-rules.html
How did your score breakdown in terms of verbal vs math?
What was your undergrad university?
Its only for profit because its their current bread and butter. They sell the people on how much more they'll make with these degrees that no one wants and how they can pay the tuition with government loans. No one is paying for UoP out of pocket.
And then when they have a POS degree they can't pay their loans and default. It's a horrible cycle. I interviewed for some Benefits position at the Milan Ins ute last year and the Dean basically came straight out and said they take the poor girls' money. At that point I decided that for-profit schools were the devil.
UTSA does have an MBA with a concentration in Information Systems.
They also offer an MS in Information Technology.This concentration is designed to offer the opportunity for qualified graduate students to study business administration while developing special expertise in information systems. To achieve this end, students can focus their elective courses on developing general managerial knowledge in the design and implementation of information systems, management of communications technologies, and principles of database management systems. Some of the course offerings require previous academic credit or professional experience in information systems.
Students choosing to concentrate in information systems must complete the 24 semester credit hours of courses containing the M.B.A. Core and 12 semester credit hours of graduate information systems courses other than IS 5003 Introduction to Information Systems.
http://www.utsa.edu/gcat/chapter6/CO...pt.html#mbaisc
I assume this was addressed at me. That sounds good, but whats the context? How are employers paying graduates of part time programs such as this?
Its better than being low, thats for sure.
In any event, don't take UTSA insults so personally. You actually graduated which is great considering UTSA's graduation rates are pretty pitiful. My GF is a UTSA alum as well and she's very smart.
UTSA's MBA program is actually fairly well ranked, so those that love to talk about UTSA here because its the cool thing to do, are pretty far off base.
My problem is i DON'T want to work in the IT field really. I have no interest in programming, database mgmt, technical writing, etc....I currently work as an LMS administrator, which is basically a glorified help desk with a few more responsibilities. Where i would like to end up is in project mgmt. If that is IT Project Mgmt, so be it, i think that is something, given my background, i could excel at. But i wouldn't limit myself to that field, or wouldn't want to at least. UTSA has quite a few different MBA tracks for MIS Mgmt, Management of Technology, and Project Mgmt, all of which sound appealing to me.
My plan would be to get the MBA and along the lines study for and take the PMP test to recieve that certification. I couldnt see how that wouldnt put me at the top of the heap of any project mgrs currently out there.
When i do a search for MBA jobs, there are tons....literally pages and pages of people looking for people with MBAs. If there are so many MBAs out there now, why are there so many good paying jobs?
UoP is definitely out for me. I can see why it would be hard to take it seriously. You dont need a GMAT and have no stipulations for being accepted. So basically anyone with some $$ in the pocket (or a student loan) is in. Not for me.
My first boss in my current job is now my companies CIO. I sent him an email earlier today to ask about what he thought about it. if he thinks it would be valuable within our company, if not, outside...waiting on a response from him.
Appreciate all of the feedback so far.
Proof? or are you just trying to fit in?
Sons I am glad I got my bachelors from UCSB.
ME>USTA.
Just ignore vulva he is my shadow, followed me around trying to get me angry. Like I said ignore him, I do.
So very not true about UOP. Maybe it's because I live in Arizona (UOP hq), but I know that UOP has the same accreditation as Arizona State. Then again, ASU's only real claim to fame was being the #1 party school a while back.
Last edited by tsb2000; 08-13-2010 at 05:32 PM.
Oh really? You are saying that UoP is a good school?
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