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    WTF?

    Yeah, this is Alex Jones...but the language in this bill is extremely broad, and enforcement could be as broad as he is claiming here...

    Again, WTF?

    http://www.infowars.com/senate-bill-...omegrown-food/

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    Now tell me again Parker why you love big government?

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    Probably a bit alarmist, but I wouldn't be surprised to see the Obama administration try to make a power grab. Just as Bush used terrorists as his excuse for greater executive privileges, Obama would use a possible pandemic to do the same.

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    Now tell me again Parker why you love big government?
    i clash with you neo-conservatives because of the war, and the associated spending.

    as for my initial support of cap and trade, I am now seeing this as a disaster in the making. This has got to stop.

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    i clash with you neo-conservatives because of the war, and the associated spending.

    as for my initial support of cap and trade, I am now seeing this as a disaster in the making. This has got to stop.
    And how many time do I have to tell you I support our troops but I don't support the war?

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    WTF?

    Yeah, this is Alex Jones...but the language in this bill is extremely broad, and enforcement could be as broad as he is claiming here...

    Again, WTF?

    http://www.infowars.com/senate-bill-...omegrown-food/
    No wonder...

    Turban Durbin is the sponsor!

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    Cosponsors:

    Sen Alexander, Lamar [TN] - 3/3/2009
    Sen Bingaman, Jeff [NM] - 11/18/2009
    Sen Burr, Richard [NC] - 3/3/2009
    Sen Burris, Roland [IL] - 6/24/2009
    Sen Chambliss, Saxby [GA] - 3/4/2009
    Sen Dodd, Christopher J. [CT] - 3/3/2009
    Sen Enzi, Michael B. [WY] - 11/30/2009
    Sen Gillibrand, Kirsten E. [NY] - 10/14/2009
    Sen Gregg, Judd [NH] - 3/3/2009
    Sen Harkin, Tom [IA] - 11/30/2009
    Sen Hatch, Orrin G. [UT] - 11/9/2009
    Sen Isakson, Johnny [GA] - 3/3/2009
    Sen Kennedy, Edward M. [MA] - 3/3/2009
    Sen Klobuchar, Amy [MN] - 3/4/2009
    Sen Nelson, E. Benjamin [NE] - 6/16/2010
    Sen Udall, Tom [NM] - 7/28/2009
    Sen Vitter, David [LA] - 5/27/2010

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    3/3/2009:
    Sponsor introductory remarks on measure. (CR S2692-2693)
    3/3/2009:
    Read twice and referred to the Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions. (text of measure as introduced: CR S2693-2705)

    11/18/2009:
    Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions. Ordered to be reported with an amendment in the nature of a subs ute favorably.

    12/18/2009:
    Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions. Reported by Senator Harkin with an amendment in the nature of a subs ute. Without written report.
    12/18/2009:
    Placed on Senate Legislative Calendar under General Orders. Calendar No. 247.

    This is old news. Why is it thread worthy?

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    ....and what are the chances of this passing?

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    ....and what are the chances of this passing?
    In this country today? Pretty good, I would say.

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    ....and what are the chances of this passing?
    Slim to none, unless someone to benefit is owed a favor.

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    In this country today? Pretty good, I would say.
    Only because congress is full of authoritarians.

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    ....and what are the chances of this passing?
    It will be sold as being all about "safety". I'm sure you guys have heard about the legislation to mark produce so there is a specific paper trail on every head of lettuce, every tomato, etc. so it can be tracked back to the farm it was produced on....This is all really about big agri-business dominating markets and pushing the little guys out.

    Good Bye farmers markets.

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    It will be sold as being all about "safety". I'm sure you guys have heard about the legislation to mark produce so there is a specific paper trail on every head of lettuce, every tomato, etc. so it can be tracked back to the farm it was produced on....This is all really about big agri-business dominating markets and pushing the little guys out.

    Good Bye farmers markets.
    Essentially. This country places a premium on not knowing how to provide for one's self. And the amusing thing is that grass-fed beef is now seen as something exotic or "organic."

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    Wait though... WC, you are cool with allowing the government to spy on your emails, because it's to protect us from terrorists, right? What about terrorists possibly spoiling a food supply? Or introducing a biological agent into a food source? Why does viewing email get a pass but securing the safety of our foodstuffs doesn't? (Note: I'm playing Devil's Advocate; I don't agree with this law.)

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    Essentially. This country places a premium on not knowing how to provide for one's self. And the amusing thing is that grass-fed beef is now seen as something exotic or "organic."
    Given that the majority of beef is pumped up with antibiotics and fed other dead animals, I'd say that grass-fed beef IS exotic.

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    "If people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson

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    "love big government?"

    you know ing well this isn't a govt move, but BigFarma buying Congress to try retain control of all food, and ty food it is, while not being able to guarantee it's not adulterated or infected.

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    "love big government?"

    you know ing well this isn't a govt move, but BigFarma buying Congress to try retain control of all food, and ty food it is, while not being able to guarantee it's adulterated or infected.
    This is just as plausible.

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    "love big government?"

    you know ing well this isn't a govt move, but BigFarma buying Congress to try retain control of all food, and ty food it is, while not being able to guarantee it's not adulterated or infected.
    but you cant deny that when its all said and done the power will lay with the politicians...

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    It will be sold as being all about "safety". I'm sure you guys have heard about the legislation to mark produce so there is a specific paper trail on every head of lettuce, every tomato, etc. so it can be tracked back to the farm it was produced on....This is all really about big agri-business dominating markets and pushing the little guys out.

    Good Bye farmers markets.
    No .

    I prefer the farmers markets myself. The produce tastes so much better.

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    Wait though... WC, you are cool with allowing the government to spy on your emails, because it's to protect us from terrorists, right?
    I didn't say I was cool with it, I said I understand, and pointed about the probable legal reasons they can do it.
    What about terrorists possibly spoiling a food supply? Or introducing a biological agent into a food source?
    The larger the supplier, the easier done. One big supplier vs. 10,000+ farmers markets...

    Which is easier to attack?
    Why does viewing email get a pass but securing the safety of our foodstuffs doesn't? (Note: I'm playing Devil's Advocate; I don't agree with this law.)
    Legal reasons, and the Commerce clause is meant for interstate commerce. Not intrastate.

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    "If people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson
    Sound's like he predicted our typical lib s of today to me...

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    ....seriously? Infowars? Alex Jones?

    You wing-nuts know that Jones is a full-blown truther, right?

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    Using wing-nut logic of guilt by association, all you wing-nuts are truthers now too....congratulations!


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