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I hope its not true but if it is I wonder if an sign n trade for anthony randolph,wilson chandler and toney douglas and a few future 1st round picks would be worth it if we could trade him to new york or sign n trade
Yea all the signs seem to be pointing towards Tony Parker leaving for the big Apple, probably after this new season expires.. That David Aldrige NBA.COM article and a recent Sports Illustrated piece reported that Parker has already declined contract extension talks, not to mention all the other stuff floating around.
If Tony Parker has another 09-10 season he's a seemingly average and replaceable player (especially looking at his drop in stats like PER) and looks to be one after the Duncan era anyway. Spurs shouldn't offer him a huge contract since his game is dependent on his speed and finishing ability more than anything else which are traits that decline mightily for PG's especially patriotic ones with as much mileage as Parker.
For Parker it makes a lot of sense to go to New York for his brand, Mike D'Antoni, connections, huge city thats also much more in love with basketball than any city in TX, etc. I see the Spurs as a secondary option for Parker but whatever happens I expect them to work professionally throughout.
I hope its not true but if it is I wonder if an sign n trade for anthony randolph,wilson chandler and toney douglas and a few future 1st round picks would be worth it if we could trade him to new york or sign n trade
As long as we keep saying and believing it's not true it can't be right?
New York dosn't have anything worthy of a TP trade, but Spurs don't have to deal TP only to New York while he is currently under contract.
Tp would make a very good expiring for another team, and after his contract runs up he could go wherever he wants to.
If this is true and Spurs decide to wait until next off-season hoping to try to convince TP to sign and trade to New York then that would limit the Spurs options greatly. That is if he doesn't decide to just walk over to new York, then Spurs will have nothing at all in return.
I don't think it's as obvious as it looks. He's probably looking behind her or something...but if it is as obvious as it looks, do you blame him? That's about as good as she's looked.
I agree with most of this, but at the same time, whether it's the Post or any other source, is anyone seriously going to deny at this point that he clearly wants out and wants to go to New York?
No, I don't have a link to satisfy timvp (couldn't resist), but I can put two and two together. The guy went from sounding like he wanted to be a Spur for life to not wanting to talk extension in a short span.
While keeping him for this season gives the Spurs the best chance at winning a fifth championship, losing him next summer for nothing would be a major blow. For now, the prudent thing to do is to keep him, but if this season goes off the rails and it's apparent that they're not going to seriously challenge for the championship, then they have to seriously look at moving him at the deadline. As an expiring contract and a player likely headed to a specific team, they won't hit a home run, but they might hit a double and that's a lot better than striking out.
Since when were players' wives word about their husbands' free-agency status credible?
The Spurs not being able to win a le (more than likely) has nothing to do w/ TP.
Baron Davis?????????? wtfIf I was running the Spurs,
I would get the Clippers on the phone and offer them TP for Baron Davis right now.
Get it done Pop!
He's a baller dude. A key reason Golden State knocked off the Mavs in 07.
He's got a similar contract to Tony, but with I think another year on it...which is good.
He's a bigger bulkier PG that can drain the 3's and can dish out assists with the best of them. His bulk will help shut down some of the bigger PGs on D.
The problem is he's been with an up until this point poorly run Clippers team with an owner that has questionable commitment to championships.
Under Don Nelson, he flourished.
Pop would definitely check his shot selection, so that would not be an issue...especially since the Spurs Offense would be a more inside out dynamic.
Davis will have more open 3pt shots and his % will return to high levels.
If the Clippers were willing?
It's a no brainer as far as I'm concerned...but are they willing?
You are such a dumbass..
Spurs cannot win this year with or without Tony..
I don't see how Spurs can beat Lakers or the Heat..
In addition, one more year older mean that Duncan and Manu will not be as good as last year..
Let's face it, the chance of Spurs winning anything at all is less than 40%
He's 3 years older than Tony, He has a past history of major injury problems, He plays a totally different style than Tony does, and while his 3 pt shot is definitely better than Tony he only shot 27% last season and 30% the season before and he doesn't even compare to Tony regarding penetration which is a major part of the spurs offense. Our best chance to win the le is sticking with Tony this season and these rumors and nothing but that... rumors. No Tony = no more chance at the le. That's it and once the season starts everyone will see this and be riding his jock praying he re-signs.
Solid take man, I can respect that.
But I'll stick by my opinion that Davis at PG over Parker would dramatically improve our Spurs Championship hopes this season.
I'll support Tony no matter what, I think he's a good guy and has meant so much to the franchise...but I do believe his days as a Spur are numbered.
Go Spurs Go!
Which time?
Option N° 3 : Extend him!
The Spurs are too smart to let him walk. period
If no chance to extend him, trade him now.
Manu can play PG beautifully anyway. And Hill can use the minutes.
I know your a huge Parker supporter and thats cool. We all have our favorites. However if Parker wants to play somewhere else there is not a whole lot the Spurs can do to make him stay.
I'm at the point where I feel complete apathy towards this Tony Parker situation. I wish Parker would take a slightly more professionally tact toward leaving, but maybe being "benched" during the playoffs did affect him? I thought his relationship with Pop, Timmy and Manu would lead to a more peaceful divorce. But, maybe like Robert Horry and Bruce Bowen before him, his relationship with Pop has possibly soured to the point where he wants to leave. Whether he stays, is traded or goes doesn't matter anymore, I'll support his decision and cherish his great 10 great years in black & silver.
so when is it ever time to trust any other player??? we won championship with avery freakin johnson, boston won with rondo pretty much as a rookie not playing nearly as great. lakers just won with fisher so it doesnt take tp to make this happen we beat tougher teams with t.p injured and as soon as he came back we started losing big games you know why???
because his heart is no longer with san antonio, if you think it is thats your opinion but i watched every game too and what i saw was a shadow of what tony used to be for the spurs, i saw the same manu and i saw the same tim and i saw a passionate hill but i saw t.p kinda going through the motion but thats just what i saw its not law just what a die hard spur fan noticed
yes and i realize tony was hurt but hes been hurt before and never looked like a when he was on the bench. he looked pissed and for the gazzillionth time he said he will not sign an extension PERIOD dont you think this would be a priority of pops ? of course it would its our freaking starting point guard!!!
pop and staff know this so i think theyre going to display tony for a trade but give hill crucial playing time so just in case something comes up hes ready to take over. i would rather them bench tony for being a about it 2 the the media and just show his talent against really ty teams. and like many of yall said if tony isnt traded for a vital piece to the future of the spurs then pop needs to step down. because thats no longer the pop looking out for his team and fans/or org. and if he doesnt hes going to wish he did
I'm really kind split with the whole TP situation. I mean, I love Tony. He grew into an All-Star with us. Been with us for what, almost a decade now? I don't want him to go. He is our best and most consistent scorer. He can put up big numbers through the whole 82 Game Season and then into the Playoffs. Manu only turns in come Playoff time, which is good, but there is no way he can handle the PG duties for a whole Season and play all those minutes. His body can't take it.
And George Hill is not a PG. He can't distribute the ball where players want it. He's a fantastic shooter, and a nice driver, but can he really handle the rock on a Championship contending team? He's really a SG in a PG's body.
So we are really in a pickle. Tony Parker is our ball handler and even though some people may not like it, he is our best player. Maybe not come Playoff time when Timmy and Manu turn it on, but for the Regular Season and in general, he is our best player, and its starting to look pretty clear he wants to leave. I don't like the sound of trading him because I don't think we can win without our best scorer. I don't know, maybe Hill and Manu can handle the ball all Season, but I think its a risky move. Who can we get for TP anyway? It would be pretty horrible if his contract goes up and he leaves to NY and leaves us dry, when we could have gotten a lot for him.
I don't know, I'm split. Lets just see how the 1st Half of the Season goes, and we'll see where we are at come the trade deadline.
The typical people here I see believe this.
HOPING that he's traded.
Other than the fact that it was "Eva was overheard saying"
Seriously?
You guys are basing all that on THAT?
good god.
I hope we get a local-USA-born, athletic, lanky player at any position in return for Parker.
A non athletic, non-long, foreign player for parker would be a sledgehammer to the nuts.
I'm also a Spurs supporter! That's why I want him to stay.
For the Spurs:
He is the best option we have, because there won't be any elite PG available next summer and we won't have a lotery pick, Hill isn't a PG, so what?
He already knows all the systems, is a good teammate, has good work ethic...
Except for a lone "injured plagued" year, he has always improved/ added something to his game (he isn't only a speedy guard IMO), no reasons he stops, even if he loses some speed.
For those who don't like his playmaking skills, if I'm not mistaken, it hasn't been an obstacle at winnig championships!
For TP:
I'm pretty sure he won't leave IF the spurs offer him a "decent" extention. He isn't a NY type of Guy, he doesn't act like a diva/superstar, I've ALWAYS read that he was humble, almost shy and he seems to be.
I'm sure he loves being in a quiet city without paparazzis or whatever and he knows he won't find a better organisation anywhere else to play BB.
The only thing that will maybe makes Tony hesitate is that he wants to keep winning, but seing how good the FO is/has been (Hill, Blair, Splitter, maybe Anderson...), I don't think it's absurd to think we can be contenders EVEN after Timmy retires or plays 20 mins/game (after signing an extension) YES I mean it!.
So if they convince him that they will keep battling for the le, I think he will stay.
Maybe I'm just too optimistic, we'll see!
Last edited by Pauleta14; 08-16-2010 at 01:26 AM.
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