Questions about the Bible...

[marini martini]

[bigzak25]

May God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ give you grace and peace.

[redzero]

If God was all-loving, couldn't he have just forgiven Lucifer regardless? That's kind of what omni-benevolence implies.

[JoeChalupa]

Live and let live. I believe and I'm stickin' to it.

[bigzak25]

May God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ give you grace and peace.

[Death In June]

Not a false comparison, for God and True Love are ONE.

I'm not a smart man, but I know what love is.

These words hippocampus, and how that is related to the seratonin in our brain. Those might be things that can be recorded, but that is a long way from proving Love exists...yet it does.





Lucifer was cast down for thinking he was better than God and wiser than God. All Lucifer had to do was admit that he was wrong and all would be forgiven. I truly believe that God loves Lucifer and that nothing would make God happier than to have the return of the prodigal son, Lucifer, come back to Him and embrace his Father. However, I believe that Lucifer's pride will not allow this. God is not the jealous one. The evil one is the jealous one. That is why he chose to challenge in the first place.

I wont argue the love thing, because the understanding of emotion, how it is produced, and it's reason for existing has scientific merit. The god debate doesn't, at least not yet. But, back to lucifer. I think it's just a matter of perspective. A suggestion, a contradictory viewpoint, may be viewed as a challenge but why would that matter to a secure god? I'm just playing devils advocate here (literally), because my understanding is that the bible was intended as a tool to civilize the jewish people, something orthodox jews will tell you with certainty. It's their book, afterall. The christians merely co-opted and augmented it.

[redzero]

Lucifer is already forgiven if he would just return to his Father.

According to Revelation, that won't happen, because Lucifer is just too stubborn I suppose. I don't know why really.

So Lucifer was cast down before he was forgiven?

[Ignignokt]

Lucifer is already forgiven if he would just return to his Father, Our Father.

According to Revelation, that won't happen, because Lucifer is just too stubborn I suppose. I don't know why really.

You should write the bible yourself.

[bigzak25]

May God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ give you grace and peace.

[Pick of Destiny]

Lucifer is already forgiven if he would just return to his Father, Our Father.

According to Revelation, that won't happen, because Lucifer is just too stubborn I suppose. I don't know why really.

[redzero]

It's like this, the forgiveness is there for Lucifer should he choose it. He does not choose that path. He chooses his own path. Therefore, he has been cast down...and will be cast down for all eternity, because he chooses to turn his back on God. We could all learn from Lucifer of how NOT to do things. Jesus is our True Teacher and he is who we should truly learn from.

Why can't God choose to forgive Lucifer regardless? That would truly make him all loving.

[bigzak25]

May God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ give you grace and peace.

[bigzak25]

May God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ give you grace and peace.

[bigzak25]

May God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ give you grace and peace.

[JoeChalupa]

Why can't God choose to forgive Lucifer regardless? That would truly make him all loving.

Thou shall not question or put God to the test. Embrace his love and.......oh, nevermind.

I've learned long ago that debates like this lead to nowhere. Carry on!

[bigzak25]

May God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ give you grace and peace.

[JoeChalupa]

Those with open hearts will see the truth when they read it.

This thread will only lead to nowhere for those that have already closed their hearts to the possibility of Our Father in Heaven, and his limitless love.

Even the most open of hearts will not see or follow.

[bigzak25]

May God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ give you grace and peace.

[JoeChalupa]

Who told you that? I suppose that depends on our definition of open.

Well I've known people who are loving, caring and excellent people who are not follower's of Christ. At least that is what they tell me. And I don't think you or anyone can prove what is or what is not an open heart.

[mouse]

According to BigZax only 29 pages to go then he bails from this topic.

[mouse]

Why can't God choose to forgive Lucifer regardless? That would truly make him all loving.

I could forgive Lucifer before i could forgive Slomo and Kori for deleting topics.

[Ignignokt]

It is already written. I am simply using Love as my guide for reading.

That's an eloquent way of masking the fact that you are ignorant.

[bigzak25]

May God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ give you grace and peace.

[bigzak25]

May God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ give you grace and peace.

[JoeChalupa]

You've known people who seemed by outward appearances to be loving, caring, and excellent people.

And I am not here to prove who has an loving heart and who doesn't, we were only speaking of what truly cons utes having one.

And what would you say proves that?