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  1. #201
    i hunt fenced animals clambake's Avatar
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    Is keeping a slave a sin?
    he's avoiding your question.

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    Long, Dark Blues redzero's Avatar
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    he's avoiding your question.
    It certainly feels like it.

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    Seek True Love, within. bigzak25's Avatar
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    May God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ give you grace and peace.
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    Cogito Ergo Sum LnGrrrR's Avatar
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    God and Jesus have two rules for us to follow.

    Love God with all of our hearts, all of our minds, and all of our soul.

    Love our neighbor as ourselves.

    I do not disregard them. I only say that they are of less importance than the two Jesus spoke of.
    So, in other words, Jesus/God have more than two rules.

    Will breaking those other rules other than the big two cause us problems? Or as long as we follow the main two, we can break those other ones sometimes?

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    Joe Chalupa could have redeemed himself here but instead he decided to be the Keith Bogans of Spurstalk and let the Jacque Vaughn of spurstalk to go off for 25 points in 6 minutes.

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    i hunt fenced animals clambake's Avatar
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    It certainly feels like it.
    as you can see, god didn't care much for women.

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    Long, Dark Blues redzero's Avatar
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    I will say that God is NOT okay with us being slaves...but you must remember, God is much more concerned with our spiritual beings than our physical ones.
    That's not what the Bible says.

    You sound like a heretic.

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    May God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ give you grace and peace.
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    Cogito Ergo Sum LnGrrrR's Avatar
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    Lucifer freed the Jews from slavery, imo. I will not pretend to have all the answers redzero. All I know is that God has given us free will. I will say that God is NOT okay with us being slaves...but you must remember, God is much more concerned with our spiritual beings than our physical ones.
    If God isn't ok with slavery, it would probably make sense for him to say so in the Bible, rather than specifically codifying how slavery was acceptable.

    And it seems strange that God would determine the future of our eternal souls based on what we do while in our physical s , if our physical s s are so trivial.

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    May God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ give you grace and peace.
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    Long, Dark Blues redzero's Avatar
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    That's not what the Bible says.

    You sound like a heretic.
    Respond to this please, bigzak.

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    May God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ give you grace and peace.
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    Jesus had to go to for 3 days before he rose again. I am not sure that we won't all be following that same path whether we like it or not. When we are standing before Lucifer and he is our judge, only then will people realize the truth, but it will be too late.
    Scripture, please?
    I do not disregard them. I only say that they are of less importance than the two Jesus spoke of.

    I don't eat s fish because I don't like it.

    I no longer eat pork.

    The only beef I am eating these days are the kosher hebrew national hotdogs my wife brought from Costco.

    I don't even know all the 613 rules. I'll read them one day soon.

    But as I said, all our sins are forgiven as long as we follow the path of Jesus Christ.
    A god that denies you bacon and not-disgusting beef is not a god that loves you, btw.

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    Joe Chalupa could have redeemed himself here but instead he decided to be the Keith Bogans of Spurstalk and let the Jacque Vaughn of spurstalk to go off for 25 points in 6 minutes.
    I was firing off a missile.

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    Seek True Love, within. bigzak25's Avatar
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    May God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ give you grace and peace.
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    Long, Dark Blues redzero's Avatar
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    Post the scripture. I feel I can evaluate it for what it's worth and explain.
    Same as before. Nothing has changed.

    However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)
    If you buy a Hebrew slave, he is to serve for only six years. Set him free in the seventh year, and he will owe you nothing for his freedom. If he was single when he became your slave and then married afterward, only he will go free in the seventh year. But if he was married before he became a slave, then his wife will be freed with him. If his master gave him a wife while he was a slave, and they had sons or daughters, then the man will be free in the seventh year, but his wife and children will still belong to his master. But the slave may plainly declare, 'I love my master, my wife, and my children. I would rather not go free.' If he does this, his master must present him before God. Then his master must take him to the door and publicly pierce his ear with an awl. After that, the slave will belong to his master forever. (Exodus 21:2-6 NLT)
    When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)

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    I can live with it JoeChalupa's Avatar
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    I'm still eating pork and beef, just in smaller portions. No lamb though. I'm also more active in the K of C.

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    May God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ give you grace and peace.
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    I'm still eating pork in beef
    A tad overindulgent, don't you think?

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    Cogito Ergo Sum LnGrrrR's Avatar
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    You are not paying attention LnGrrrR. We can determine the future of our eternal souls. We are already forgiven. We just have to walk the path.
    But only if do it while we are on Earth, correct? Can we redeem ourselves after our soul goes to ?

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    I know I will sound like a heretic.

    Jesus sounded like one too or did we all forget that already?
    So, is The Bible the Word of God or not? You clearly don't like some of what's in it.

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    The inevitable CF post.

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    A tad overindulgent, don't you think?
    man does not live on bread alone.

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