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    Veteran Ignignokt's Avatar
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    Are you two believers now or not?

    It is rather insulting to be judged by non-believers.
    It's insulting that non believers know more about your doctrine than you and Joe "Impotency is cool! Margarita Time!!" Chalupa.

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    Are you two believers now or not?

    It is rather insulting to be judged by non-believers.
    Why is it insulting to be judged by non-believers? After all, you were judging non-believers yourself.

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    http://www.evilbible.com/do_not_ignore_ot.htm (Don't whine about the name of the site. If you think it's lying, look up the passages yourself.)

    1) “For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:18-19 RSV) Clearly the Old Testament is to be abided by until the end of human existence itself. None other then Jesus said so.

    2) All of the vicious Old Testament laws will be binding forever. "It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid." (Luke 16:17 NAB)

    3) Jesus strongly approves of the law and the prophets. He hasn’t the slightest objection to the cruelties of the Old Testament. "Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place." (Matthew 5:17 NAB)

    3b) "All scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for refutation, for correction, and for training in righteousness..." (2 Timothy 3:16 NAB)

    3c) "Know this first of all, that there is no prophecy of scripture that is a matter of personal interpretation, for no prophecy ever came through human will; but rather human beings moved by the holy Spirit spoke under the influence of God." (2 Peter 20-21 NAB)

    4) Jesus criticizes the Jews for not killing their disobedient children according to Old Testament law. Mark.7:9-13 "Whoever curses father or mother shall die" (Mark 7:10 NAB)

    5) Jesus is criticized by the Pharisees for not washing his hands before eating. He defends himself by attacking them for not killing disobedient children according to the commandment: “He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.” (Matthew 15:4-7)

    6) Jesus has a punishment even worse than his father concerning adultery: God said the act of adultery was punishable by death. Jesus says looking with lust is the same thing and you should gouge your eye out, better a part, than the whole. The punishment under Jesus is an eternity in . (Matthew 5:27)

    7) Peter says that all slaves should “be subject to [their] masters with all fear,” to the bad and cruel as well as the “good and gentle.” This is merely an echo of the same slavery commands in the Old Testament. 1 Peter 2:18

    8) “Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law" (John7:19) and “For the law was given by Moses,..." (John 1:17).

    9) “...the scripture cannot be broken.” --Jesus Christ, John 10:35
    Quotes from the New Testament. I guess they must be inspired by the devil, too. Second time I've had to post this.

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    Why is it insulting to be judged by non-believers? After all, you were judging non-believers yourself.
    topsy turvy world you know...

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    It's insulting that non believers know more about your doctrine than you and Joe "Impotency is cool! Margarita Time!!" Chalupa.

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    NO. I disregard no part of the bible.

    My goal is only to interpret the bible clearly.
    You've said that you feel parts of the Bible were written/inspired by Lucifer, including some laws, correct?

    Do you follow those laws, or not? If you do, you're following Lucifer, if not, you're disregarding parts of the Bible.

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    It's insulting that non believers know more about your doctrine than you
    I find that I tend to know much more about Christianity and the Bible than most Christian believers... sadly.

    Most Jewish people tend to actively pursue their faith, and so have reflected on these issues. Also, their beliefs are slightly more sensible than Christians.

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    Do you also claim to speak for jesus even though you don't know his scripture??

    NO, Jesus has spoken and His words are there for all to read.

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    You're pretty comfortable in your own language, Joe.

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    May God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ give you grace and peace.
    Last edited by bigzak25; 08-19-2010 at 02:52 AM.

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    I'm still waiting for bigzak to respond to all of those New Testament quotes that tell us not to ignore the Old Testament. If they are also inspired by the devil, then the entire Bible is.

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    NO, Jesus has spoken and His words are there for all to read.
    Jesus told the roman soldiers "I AM". Does that mean that the "I AM" of the Old testament (Jehova) was lucifer and therefore Jesus Christ was lucifer incarnate?

    NM, you're clinically re ed.

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    I find that I tend to know much more about Christianity and the Bible than most believers... sadly.
    I know enough that I believe in Jesus Christ. I'll be the first to admit I am no Biblical Scholar nor claim to be one. Oh yeah, and I have boring takes and enjoy a margarita.

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    You're pretty comfortable in your own language, Joe.

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    redzero, it will take me some time to dissect this. I promise you that I will, but my son and I have to goto Costco now.

    God Bless you all and please continue to post your questions as I will do my best to post answers.
    They don't sell ownage protectors at Costco, i've already checked for you.

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    Bigzax......... is......... not....... giving ...... up.......... he........ returns......... after........ each ........ punch........ how .....long............... can..... he..... go ..on?



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    May God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ give you grace and peace.
    Last edited by bigzak25; 08-19-2010 at 02:52 AM.

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    I'm actually pretty comfortable most of the time except when my diabetes makes me piss all night long.

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    Why do you have bronzed skin around your eyes joe?? is it schaffing from all the sleep you do from reading your own posts?

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    They don't sell ownage protectors at Costco, i've already checked for you.
    Don't you mean "regulators"?

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    May God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ give you grace and peace.
    Last edited by bigzak25; 08-19-2010 at 02:52 AM.

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    So Mouse, if man did not evolve, how did sapiens come into existence?
    Obvious reason for not believing in evolution: he doesn't understand it.

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    Why do you have bronzed skin around your eyes joe?? is it schaffing from all the sleep you do from reading your own posts?
    I have sleep apnea remember?

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    I did nothing of the kind. Saying Matt Bonner has choked in the playoffs thus far is not judging him. It's a statement of fact.
    But you said it yourself that you are ignorant of those facts you speak of.

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    Too be honest, I think bigzak is trolling the out of us. I don't think he honestly believes he can just pick and choose which parts of the Bible are right because God has spoken to him.

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