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Obviously it takes a great supporting cast to win championships but which superstar would you say got more credit than deserved due to coat riding? I say Kobe, due to the mere fact he had both the most dominate big men in Shaq and a one of the most talented 7fters in Pau to win. The reason I say Kobe because he is often compared to Jordan because of championships won. When the obvious fact is he needed tons of help to get where he is and fact is Shaq is the reason he has more the half the championships won is because of Shaq.
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I never really looked at it this way, TBH..
When I think about it, it appears to be true..Kobe's rings are never judged thoroughly, they're just used as an individual number to elevate his greatness..everybody has already forgotten about his pathetic performance during the Finals, Gasol received very little credit throughout the playoffs, and he continues to benefit from revisionist history in regards to the Shaq era..
Thankfully, this will all come to an end when Lebron and DWade take over..
They will go down as the greatest wing combo while Kobe while go as good but not quite Jordan.
Even though he only has one, KG is one.
.... and of course Robert Horry.
Lets focus on 09 and 2010. Kobe won the last 2..now tell me again how many does Miami have ...ohh yeah that's right...1
Now matter how u slice Kobe>Heat Franchise.
Doesn't change the fact. Heat haven't began yet their legacy as the greatest team ever. Its hard to take in but just sit back in watch the show as the Lakers are put to rest.
This thread is already at the 'epic FAILURE' stage. Besides,
I have always looked at it this way. Shaq was the best big in the game and gasol is the second best in the game(best offensively). He has all this talent and barely wins. Not to mention the many times the officials have gave the lakers the series. It is unbelievable how badly they have cheated for the lakers.
lol
Agenda threads. Classic.
Keep Classy heat fans
Last I checked Wade carried Shaq to that le. Not like Kobe. Lebron hasn't won a championship so I'm not sure why he is being mentioned. Lakers fans insecurity
Shaquille O'Neal has now become the poster child for coatriding, hopping on superstar to superstar on his quest to one-up Duncan and now to chase down Kobe.
I know the Kobe hate is great on this site but stuff like this gets comical. Coatriding to me infers the player actively goes out to ride another player's coattails. While Kobe wanted to be a Laker, he didn't go out and choose to play for the Lakers. Jerry West traded for him before he played a game in the NBA. Kobe didn't join a team with Shaq on it. They arrived in the same summer. It's not like Karl Malone and Gary Payton in 2003-04. It's not like KG to Boston in 2007. It's not like LeBron this summer.
As for the notion that Kobe's riding Pau Gasol's coattails, come on now. If that's the case, then Duncan road Ginobili's coattails in 2005 and Tony Parker's coattails in 2007. It really has gotten comical.
Jamstone for as smart as you are. Your opinion doesn't count, as your one the biggest Kobe homers on the site. As far as Shaq, yes as of late he has become a coat rider but if you saw his Laker days. Then you know his dominance is behind the success of that team.
Being a "Kobe homer" makes my opinion as valid as yours with you being an obvious "Kobe hater."
But ok.
Don't mind him. Ace is a Laker fan posing as a Heat fan. Pretty damn obvious.
KG is the number one reason for that Celtics' championship, so no he doesn't belong in the list.
And Horry isn't a superstar.
Shaq is probably THE biggest, hypocritical, coatrider of all, because when he was a young player, he derided many veterans, specifcally Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, for hanging around too long. At the time, he claimed that he would never stoop to such levels. Yeah right.
HarlemHeat is punching himself for not coming up with this thread's idea first.
Probably true, but I can be pretty oblivious when it comes to recognizing that kind of , so I generally respond to all trolls the same way, with serious responses even when it's obvious trolling. I believe there are some posters who are extreme homers who say outrageous and actually believe it, and that's why I treat them the same for the most part. I mean, I actually believe there are people who believe the things he says. But you're probably right and I do fall into the trap a lot. Lol shrugs...
obvious troll...40 post and calls Jamstone the biggest Kobe Homer in this site. Just another Heat Username (probably really a Spurs fan) trying to find ways to diss the Lakers.
This is such troll bait....why fall for it.
I fall for troll bait all the time, even if I know it's trolling.
But, in turn, I've gotten posters like Allanon and even 21_Blessings to respond with non-troll (or at least partially non-troll) posts. I like to see if there's any substance behind the troll work.
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