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    "Patriot" Paranoia: A Look at the Top Ten Conspiracy Theories

    Conspiracy theorizing has flourished as a virtual art form in all nations and across all political persuasions. But the American radical right has to be considered a strong contender for the le of modern conspiracy champion.

    there is no arguing that these theories have seen a revival on the extreme right in recent years. Over the last two decades, a far-right conspiracy culture of self-proclaimed "Patriots" has emerged in which the United States government itself is viewed as a mortal threat to everything from cons utional democracy to the survival of the human race.

    Since Obama's election, the cons uent theories within the overarching narrative of the New World Order have increasingly made inroads into the mainstream national discourse.

    http://www.truth-out.org/patriot-par...ies62368?print

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    Crazy tri-cornered-hat ers, every last one of them. And often with a financial interest in paranoid fear-mongering.

    The Business Of The American Right Is Bat- -Crazy Paranoid Business (and paid for by VRWC)

    "Christian" paranoid business is scare-mongering about End Times and everybody Going To unless you agree to be scammed for $Bs.
    try and a miss.

    it goes well beyond us borders

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    Who exactly are these elites?

    While skimming through this, I was almost surprised not to see the word Illuminati.
    the elites are those that: 1) are pushing a globalist agenda, and 2) have means to make it happen.

    think beyond personal wealth...think power to control media and set both corporate and govt policy.

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    the elites are those that: 1) are pushing a globalist agenda, and 2) have means to make it happen.

    think beyond personal wealth...think power to control media and set both corporate and govt policy.
    I'm not a big fan of the strawman.

    do you actually have names of people/en ies or are you going to tell me to keep thinking about it?

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    I'm not a big fan of the strawman.

    do you actually have names of people/en ies or are you going to tell me to keep thinking about it?
    Bilderberg for a start....and the question arises...why is this group not discussed in mainstream media? if officials at the highest level of our govt are attending, in any capacity, why are the public not informed?

    start at 3:24


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    OK this dude sums it all up.


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    this dude might debunk the whole thing hmself, if given the chance.

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    it seems to me that if a person wanted to debunk this philosophy, he would have to follow the chain back to its roots. these theorists are interpreting every world event through the theories they have concocted...thus any story or event they address necessarily has an element of truth, and an element of their respective conspiratorial interpretation.

    in order to debunk the theories, you would have to trace this stuff back to its origins, to prove the illegitimate beginnnings/sources/motives.

    not sure if i have time for this sort of thing...surely someone out there has already done this...

    but it looks like tecate for me

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    as John the Baptist paved the way for Jesus of Nazareth, Giordano Bruno paved the way for Galileo Galilei....

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    There's no underhanded scheme, just a combination of greed and power. That's really all it takes.

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    There's no underhanded scheme, just a combination of greed and power. That's really all it takes.
    if you watch the aaron russo video above, the ultimate scheme is to get everyone chipped.

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    so to get back to the issue, the elite want to destroy the american economy (current financial crisis/constant war) and the freedoms and self governance we enjoy in order to take control of our economy/country through some global body (NWO), and once they are in they can force us to get chipped (satans plan).

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    this premise would rally a lot of groups...christians, anti-globalists/anti-WTO, conspiracy theorists, americans against the war, americans against obamas socialism, etc.

    this explains why the theory isnt limited to american far right

    sounds like a good way to sell some books/dvds to a huge audience.

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    if you watch the aaron russo video above, the ultimate scheme is to get everyone chipped.
    Or it could just be a bunch of greedy bankers who want more and more freedom, lobby Congress, get those laws, then proceed to try to make more money through stupid schemes until they bankrupt the nation.

    If they were really good, there wouldn't have been a nationwide "crisis" because all their deals would've been under the radar.

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    Or it could just be a bunch of greedy bankers who want more and more freedom, lobby Congress, get those laws, then proceed to try to make more money through stupid schemes until they bankrupt the nation.

    If they were really good, there wouldn't have been a nationwide "crisis" because all their deals would've been under the radar.
    the response would be that the crisis, sufficient to create mass sheeple panic, must always precede the massive power grab.

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    the response would be that the crisis, sufficient to create mass sheeple panic, must always precede the massive power grab.
    Why? After all, they would need some amount of power to get into position to CREATE the crisis, wouldn't they?

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    "must always precede the massive power grab."

    bull .

    the power grab (aka money grab) started with St Ronnie getting the conservative ball rolling, cutting taxes for the wealthy (eg, himself), raising taxes on the non-wealthy, and sanctioning from the Office of the President the war on unions and employees.

    That continued for 30 years, and continues now. Where was sheeple panic for those 30years?

    There's no way to grab back that power, and the power-holder NEVER relinquish the power. America is ed and un able.

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    Why? After all, they would need some amount of power to get into position to CREATE the crisis, wouldn't they?
    the answer would be that they already have power in govt, at the highest levels, that they have purchased, and that this influence is being used to influence policy,

    policy to constantly expand the powers of federal gov to usurp power until POW...the crisis gives them opportunity to implement the tools that can only be wielded during such an event...tools that have already been put on the books (patriot act, Homeland Sec expansion) but arent covered by the media. martial law follows to restore order, and we never make it back to freedom.

    the crisis will allow the executive branch an appearance of legal propriety, as it consolidates power to restore order...and severs the american people's power to control their own govt.

    scary stuff. then again reptile bloodlines are scary too.

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    "must always precede the massive power grab."

    bull .

    the power grab (aka money grab) started with St Ronnie getting the conservative ball rolling, cutting taxes for the wealthy (eg, himself), raising taxes on the non-wealthy, and sanctioning from the Office of the President the war on unions and employees.

    That continued for 30 years, and continues now. Where was sheeple panic for those 30years?

    There's no way to grab back that power, and the power-holder NEVER relinquish the power. America is ed and un able.
    but the panic at that time stemmed from the big red machine. so, yes there was a crisis even then. then it was russia, now it is terrorists,

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    Bilderberg for a start....

    and the question arises...why is this group not discussed in mainstream media? if officials at the highest level of our govt are attending, in any capacity, why are the public not informed?

    start at 3:24

    I'm not big on sitting through conspiracy youtubes either. Just get to the point in simple sentences please.

    how do you know that officials at the highest level are attending?

    seems to me this is nothing more that a social club for the rich and powerful, with attendees that have come and gone over the years.

    if they were founded in 1954, they've done a crappy job at achieving a new world order in the last 50+ years.

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    the answer would be that they already have power in govt, at the highest levels, that they have purchased, and that this influence is being used to influence policy,
    Let's look at this statement. They already have power in government, so they use that power in government to influence policy, to give themself more power.

    That's not really a big surprise. Pretty much every company that has lobbysists does that. That doesn't mean every company is trying to "take over", just that they want more lax rules for them.

    policy to constantly expand the powers of federal gov to usurp power until POW...the crisis gives them opportunity to implement the tools that can only be wielded during such an event...tools that have already been put on the books (patriot act, Homeland Sec expansion) but arent covered by the media. martial law follows to restore order, and we never make it back to freedom.
    Tell me how bankers benefit from the Patriot Act? Martial law, if implemented, could only ever be on a temporary basis. We have too many guns in the hands of homeowners for martial law to truly work, and that's assuming every lawmen/military person obeyed their orders unflinchingly, which is highly unlikely.

    the crisis will allow the executive branch an appearance of legal propriety, as it consolidates power to restore order...and severs the american people's power to control their own govt.
    Americans' ability to control government is tenuous at best. But that's a separate issue from an evil council of boogeymen nefariously plotting world takeover.

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    OK this dude sums it all up.

    cliffnotes please

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    but the panic at that time stemmed from the big red machine. so, yes there was a crisis even then. then it was russia, now it is terrorists,
    So there's alot of idiots who are scared easily. That doesn't mean someone's pulling their strings. Some people are just dumb.

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    but it looks like tecate for me


    how are you going to know when you've lost?

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    So there's alot of idiots who are scared easily. That doesn't mean someone's pulling their strings. Some people are just dumb.
    prove someone's not pulling their strings.

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    prove someone's not pulling their strings.

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