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    I think RJ will pan out well if he doesnt produce this year then I will consider him a letdown but if he can get back to around 15 ppg, I will be happy but people need to realize that he is the 4th option on the team at the same time, and stop screaming everytime he goes to the basket.

    Bonner I really dont care too much he's unique that's why the spurs kept him he's a big man who can shoot 3's pretty good, how many teams have a player like that on the team. About the whole chocking this year in the playoffs I kinda can't really say that he was inconsistent didn't do to much in the mavs series , but did pretty good in the suns series in 3 & 4 he was in double figures those games.

    I'm dissapointed of course we didn't get a back up SF but at the same time I beleive the Spurs would hit the luxary tax if they sign another guy but I think the spurs will go with this roster for the first few months see how it goes if were strffling then I think well use some of our younger guys not including blair,hill,anderson or splitter even this years 1st round pick to get another small foward

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    For me its not seeing the newly drafted and signed Spurs play whether its Tiago, Anderson, or Richards.

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    Bonner being resigned is easily the biggest disappointment of the offseason. Now it'll be another postseason of watching him brick shots and looking like a deer in the headlights. If we make the postseason, that is.
    If we miss the postseason, it won't be beacuse we re-signed Matt Bonner in the offseason. We will have had bigger problems than that.

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    Barring severe injuries, the Spurs aren't going to miss the post season. So many people are downers, but are the first to gush about winning a championship when they rattle off five in a row.

    But the biggest disappointment easily was Bonner. The Spurs giving that guy that contract was easily the worst mistake they've made with a contract since giving Malik his 36 mil, the only difference was that Malik had some heart and would D up.

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    If we miss the postseason, it won't be beacuse we re-signed Matt Bonner in the offseason. We will have had bigger problems than that.
    That's fair, but that's not the point. Getting to the postseason is one thing. Fielding a team that is capable of knocking off the Fakers is quite another. The objective of any offseason should be to upgrade the talent level. This task is even more crucial when you consider the fact that 2 of the Spurs vaunted 3 superstars are aging.

    Watching how this team fared in the past few postseasons, it's clear that the supporting cast has failed to augment the play of the Big Three. On each of the Spurs championship teams, you'll find that the contributions of role players, were significant factors in team success.

    That said, resigning Bonner is simply the equivalent of trying the same thing over and over again, while expecting different results. In other words, it's the true definition of insanity.

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    That's fair, but that's not the point. Getting to the postseason is one thing. Fielding a team that is capable of knocking off the Fakers is quite another. The objective of any offseason should be to upgrade the talent level. This task is even more crucial when you consider the fact that 2 of the Spurs vaunted 3 superstars are aging.

    Watching how this team fared in the past few postseasons, it's clear that the supporting cast has failed to augment the play of the Big Three. On each of the Spurs championship teams, you'll find that the contributions of role players, were significant factors in team success.

    That said, resigning Bonner is simply the equivalent of trying the same thing over and over again, while expecting different results. In other words, it's the true definition of insanity.


    Sort of like complaining about Bonner being back over and over...Or, hold on, what about those who keep complaining about RJ over and over...

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    Or like responding over and over to those complaining

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    SpursTalk is on peak Offseason form.

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    No one is pointing out the most obvious disappointment; missing out on LeBron James for the rest of the MLE after Splitter was signed.
    Don't forget letting Hairston walk. A real front office would've at least got back Melo or somebody of worth.

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    RJ, because he will stand in the way of improvement. 4 ing years of his 30yo, mediocre ageing corpse. If he had opted in we could jettison him for youth next season - as it has played out, we're stuck with the chump until 2014. How the could anyone in the organisation think that was a good idea?


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    my disappointment was talking to the Spurs about getting tickets with the stipulation that bonner wasn't coming back...so I buy the tickets and they resign him...

    wtf?

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    bbb bonner

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    The homers are already working overtime this year makin excuses for the FO decisions, and the season hasn't even started.

    I can already predict what's going to happen.

    Pop will try to incorporate Rupaul (err, Richard) into the halfcourt offense and it will be a failure. I'm sure Pop will keep desperately trying to pound the round nail into the square hole (excuse the pun) to justify that 40 million dollar contract.

    Meanwhile, while RJ is screwing up the starting unit, Chuck Boner will be eating up any spare minutes that might've went to Blair in the 2nd unit.

    Good times ahead.

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    I honestly don't think it will be healthy for me to watch this season. I am seriously afraid Bonner will give me an aneurysm.

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    The red rocket may have been paid a little to much but resigning him was best for the team. We didn't have enough money to get a better big than bonner. So without that resigning we would have been worst. At the end of the day getting splitter on the cheap counteracts paying bonner a little more than he is worth.

    On the other hand the rj deal appears to be a deal to save money and not improve the team. That is why this is the biggest disappointment. Nothing counteracts this move.

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    The red rocket may have been paid a little to much but resigning him was best for the team. We didn't have enough money to get a better big than bonner. So without that resigning we would have been worst. At the end of the day getting splitter on the cheap counteracts paying bonner a little more than he is worth.

    On the other hand the rj deal appears to be a deal to save money and not improve the team. That is why this is the biggest disappointment. Nothing counteracts this move.
    A much shrewder move would have been signing Mahinmi for probably half that amount and half the contract length. They didn't need to invest that kind of money into a player who should have been looked at as a 5th big who likely won't even play much.

    Duncan, Splitter, McDyess, & Blair should have been the big rotation, but now it is not clear what is going to happen.

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    A much shrewder move would have been signing Mahinmi for probably half that amount and half the contract length. They didn't need to invest that kind of money into a player who should have been looked at as a 5th big who likely won't even play much.

    Duncan, Splitter, McDyess, & Blair should have been the big rotation, but now it is not clear what is going to happen.
    As long as Pop is the coach, Bonner WILL play - a lot - and a lot more than he probably should - and probably at the expense of The Beast. All this despite his history of diminishing returns and excessive bricklaying against top-tier compe iton.

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    like most things on spurstalk, when issues are overblown before the season starts, this situation shows a lack of perspective. if rj and bonner are the main culprits here, consider this:

    1. rj is the only reasonable sf / player of his class the spurs could get a hold of for the season. again - we are talking about THIS off-season, not the previous one. his extension had to be big, otherwise he would have taken 15 mil + 3 more years elsewhere. consider this signing as a 2-year extension (tim's window of opportunity) for only 5 more mil. the third year, the team is rebuilding anyway and the fourth - he is getting traded in feb.

    2. as far as bonner goes - he is an average player who will play few minutes at the 4/5. for a player in his class, he is better than most because he already knows the system and can shoot the 3. with tiago coming over and pop showing he would rather play mcdyess before bonner (next to tim), bonner's role is simply as 3rd rotation player, bench-warmer, white-mahinmi that the spurs need. occasionally, when the situation permits - e.g. playing vs. teams with little defense such as raptors and suns, he may warrant some more minutes.

    both these guys are not great signings, but are reasonable ones. however, st is full of cry babies, so why even bother, right?

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    This message board is the biggest disappointment of the off season.

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    * Signing Bonehead for FOUR years. And overpaying him. It makes the org look plain stupid. A 5 year old knows that he sucks.

    * Signing Jeff for FOUR years. And overpaying him.

    * Letting 7 footer pogo stick walk away after all those years, then he was signed by Mavs for next to nothing, leaving the Spurs still undersized.

    * Not signing Shaq to give us size and muscle against the bigger teams, ie Bynum and Lakers, when he coulda been had for squat.

    * Popovich not seeing the light and recognizing the futility of whatever it is he is trying to accomplish with small ball. We're still a small team and we're going to get muscled by bigger physical teams, and Tim can only take so much.

    * Did I mention signing Bonner for FOUR years?

    * Thank God Splitter was signed. If he hadn't been the offseason would have been disastrous. And letting Mason and Bogans go. Adios.

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    The biggest disappointment of the off-season was resigning Matt Bonner. He is simply not good.

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    Bonner's contract is not that bad.

    It's basically a 3-year 10.9m. The last year in only 1M guaranteed.

    It's not a good deal, but it's not bad considering what we saw this offseason.

    RJ's contract is by far the worst. It was actually one of the worst contracts of the offseason. I know we saved a lot of money, but i'm not happy having RJ for 4 more years.

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    Bonner's contract is not that bad.

    It's basically a 3-year 10.9m. The last year in only 1M guaranteed.

    It's not a good deal, but it's not bad considering what we saw this offseason.

    RJ's contract is by far the worst. It was actually one of the worst contracts of the offseason. I know we saved a lot of money, but i'm not happy having RJ for 4 more years.
    Exactly. Bonner can be moved. RJ can't. .

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    I would rank:
    1. Bonner
    2. RJ

    RJ is second in my opinion because he has the potential to improve and get better. Bonner is probably as good as hes going to get.

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    * Signing Bonehead for FOUR years. And overpaying him. It makes the org look plain stupid. A 5 year old knows that he sucks.

    * Signing Jeff for FOUR years. And overpaying him.

    * Letting 7 footer pogo stick walk away after all those years, then he was signed by Mavs for next to nothing, leaving the Spurs still undersized.

    * Not signing Shaq to give us size and muscle against the bigger teams, ie Bynum and Lakers, when he coulda been had for squat.

    * Popovich not seeing the light and recognizing the futility of whatever it is he is trying to accomplish with small ball. We're still a small team and we're going to get muscled by bigger physical teams, and Tim can only take so much.

    * Did I mention signing Bonner for FOUR years?

    * Thank God Splitter was signed. If he hadn't been the offseason would have been disastrous. And letting Mason and Bogans go. Adios.
    Forget who it was, but some dumb jackass actually claimed Boner was the best matchup against the lakers... even though he chokes and can't shoot 3's in any big game with them. Add to that Gasol and Bynum are too big for him to handle inside and he is basically as useless as dirt.

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