Conspiracy Theory, Ripe for Debunkers.

[Parker2112]

I'm not big on sitting through conspiracy youtubes either. Just get to the point in simple sentences please.

how do you know that officials at the highest level are attending?

seems to me this is nothing more that a social club for the rich and powerful, with attendees that have come and gone over the years.

if they were founded in 1954, they've done a crappy job at achieving a new world order in the last 50+ years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...#United_States

List of Bilderberg participants
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[edit] United States

Map of countries by the number of politicians, which have attended one or more conferences organized by the Bilderberg Group

• George W. Ball (1954, 1993),[13] Under Secretary of State 1961-1968, Ambassador to U.N. 1968
• Sandy Berger (1999),[14] National Security Advisor, 1997–2001
• Hillary Rodham Clinton,[15] 67th United States Secretary of State
• Timothy Geithner,[16] Treasury Secretary
• Lee H. Hamilton (1997),[1] former US Congressman
• Christian Herter,[17] (1961, 1963, 1964, 1966), 53rd United States Secretary of State
• Charles Douglas Jackson (1957, 1958, 1960),[18] Special Assistant to the President
• Joseph E. Johnson[19] (1954), President Carnegie Endowment for International Peace
• Henry Kissinger[20] (1957, 1964, 1966, 1971, 1973, 1974, 1977, 2008),[21] 56th United States Secretary of State
• Colin Powell (1997),[1] 65th United States Secretary of State
• Condoleezza Rice,[15] 66th United States Secretary of State
• Lawrence Summers,[16] Director of the National Economic Council
• Paul Volcker,[16] Chair of the President's Economic Recovery Advisory Board and Chairman of the Federal Reserve from 1979–1987

[edit] Presidents

• Bill Clinton (1991),[22][23] President 1993-2001
• Gerald Ford (1964, 1966),[4][24] President 1974-1977

[edit] Senators

• Tom Daschle,[15] Senator from South Dakota 1987-2005
• John Edwards (2004),[25][26] Senator from North Carolina 1999-2005
• Chuck Hagel (1999, 2000),[27] Senator from Nebraska 1997-2009
• Sam Nunn (1996, 1997),[1] Senator from Georgia 1972-1997

[edit] Governors

• Rick Perry (2007),[28] Governor of Texas 2000-current
• Mark Sanford (2008),[29] Governor of South Carolina

[Parker2112]

Tell me how bankers benefit from the Patriot Act? Martial law, if implemented, could only ever be on a temporary basis. We have too many guns in the hands of homeowners for martial law to truly work, and that's assuming every lawmen/military person obeyed their orders unflinchingly, which is highly unlikely.

the consolidation of power in one place (fed gov) makes it ripe for the taking. the less consolidated power is, the more impossible a takeover would be. its like a fruit tree gathering sugars in its fruit, which eventually ripen to be picked and eaten. the patriot act just allows the gov more power until it has what it needs to take over at a crisis, then martial law would be taken and never relenquished...or returned but under new new terms...

the second amendment is critical here no doubt.

but if you think about where warfare is headed, if drones were even turned on our people, we no longer need that many loyal military/police... it wouldnt take any more than a few hundred gamers in Utah...similar to what is being implemented now, but on a bigger scale...to keep the masses at bay, controlling a few thousand drones.

[Blake]

if officials at the highest level of our govt are attending, in any capacity, why are the public not informed?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...#United_States

so the public really was/is informed.

lol you drinking your six pack already.

[Blake]

the consolidation of power in one place (fed gov) makes it ripe for the taking. the less consolidated power is, the more impossible a takeover would be. its like a fruit tree gathering sugars in its fruit, which eventually ripen to be picked and eaten. the patriot act just allows the gov more power until it has what it needs to take over at a crisis, then martial law would be taken and never relenquished...or returned but under new new terms...

the second amendment is critical here no doubt.

but if you think about where warfare is headed, if drones were even turned on our people, we no longer need that many loyal military/police... it wouldnt take any more than a few hundred gamers in Utah...similar to what is being implemented now, but on a bigger scale...to keep the masses at bay, controlling a few thousand drones.

how soon do you see the world being ruled by one new world order government?

[Parker2112]

how soon do you see the world being ruled by one new world order government?

I dont see it.

that said, if our economy indeed collapses, its a new ballgame.

But I like the secondary effects here from Alex Jones' marketing....

the fear speak is causing listeners to reconsider what freedom is, how it can be lost, and how we might keep it (if we indeed still have it).

This message is in part what is driving the tea party movement. and the rambling message explains the rambling focus in the party. the party includes truthers, birthers, radical right neo-nazi anti semites, etc...driven by conspiracy theory believers in many forms...

along with a more centrist group that just wants to take back the govt from corrupt politicians.

so Alex has a big audience to pander to...

[Parker2112]

evidently more people read infowars than you might think...

[Blake]

So, what is their plan again?

unravel our economy then come in and take charge of whats left with a worldwide regime...the new world order.

how soon do you see the world being ruled by one new world order government?

I dont see it.

I'm willing to share the six pack.

[RandomGuy]

if you watch the aaron russo video above, the ultimate scheme is to get everyone chipped.

More scaremongering from evangelical christians.

[Parker2112]

so it would seem.

[Blake]

so it would seem.

aw.

tell you what.....since you mostly self-debunked, you deserve some of your beer. we'll all share.

[Parker2112]

aw.

tell you what.....since you mostly self-debunked, you deserve some of your beer. we'll all share.

two six packs is the only right answer here.

[LnGrrrR]

but if you think about where warfare is headed, if drones were even turned on our people, we no longer need that many loyal military/police... it wouldnt take any more than a few hundred gamers in Utah...similar to what is being implemented now, but on a bigger scale...to keep the masses at bay, controlling a few thousand drones.

Who do you think controls the drones? You know they're not automated, right?

Tell me, where are these gamers so dedicated to the NWO to run these drones? Oh, and the maintenance people to maintain them. And the comm guys to make sure they're getting the signal. Etc etc.

What you're envisioning only exists in some dystopian future. Right now, the technology to do what you're thinking about doesn't exist. Even if it DID exist, you don't think some smart citizens could take down a drone and reverse engineer it?

[Parker2112]

Who do you think controls the drones? You know they're not automated, right?

Tell me, where are these gamers so dedicated to the NWO to run these drones? Oh, and the maintenance people to maintain them. And the comm guys to make sure they're getting the signal. Etc etc.

What you're envisioning only exists in some dystopian future. Right now, the technology to do what you're thinking about doesn't exist. Even if it DID exist, you don't think some smart citizens could take down a drone and reverse engineer it?

man, everyone knows gamers will do satan's bidding to get to work with the latest tech.

[Parker2112]

besides they have other options...

[RandomGuy]

My own theory about conspiracy theorists is that they are, inherently, control freaks.

The idea that the world is a random ball of chaos, and that people, even powerful ones, can only exert a limited amount of control to events, scares such people.

It is therefore more "comforting" on some level to think that SOMEONE, even an evil someone or someones, is in control.

I would love to test this hypothesis at some point, by measuring conspiracy theorists' tolerance for ambiguity (how comfortable they are with feelings of being out of control).

[LnGrrrR]

man, everyone knows gamers will do satan's bidding to get to work with the latest tech.

Now we've transitioned from 1984 to Ender's Game.

[LnGrrrR]

My own theory about conspiracy theorists is that they are, inherently, control freaks.

The idea that the world is a random ball of chaos, and that people, even powerful ones, can only exert a limited amount of control to events, scares such people.

It is therefore more "comforting" on some level to think that SOMEONE, even an evil someone or someones, is in control.

I would love to test this hypothesis at some point, by measuring conspiracy theorists' tolerance for ambiguity (how comfortable they are with feelings of being out of control).

I'll play (completely unqualified) armchair psychologist. Speaking of control issues playing a role, I'd also argue that having someone to "blame" inherently makes a problem "fixable" if you can just get that person (s) out of control.