Quite stale.
yeah... and elbow strain and bruise.
You really are a tool... TBH...
I haven't posted much lately as I have been very busy at work. It's been nothing but a pleasure to read through the threads from time to time to see you getting abused day after day.When exactly did this "getting abused" happen?..it's not possible, tbh..
Think they're jealous of Harlem's medal tbh...
Simply do a search on your name... and pull up the threads. It's not difficult. You are owned in a vast majority of them. Your OBSESSION makes you look the fool. You toss out your circular logic, obtuse arguments, hypocritical comments, and veiled jabs and more often than not just dissapear never to return to said thread when owned. It's who you are! It's ok though... You have internet forum medal!
Edit: And if you really need an example... simply revisit your own thread where you were owned by a user who simply created a screename based on yours and had not posted a single comment. My god... that has to go down as the all time ownage in the internet era. That or the biggest case of insecurity.
As for your example, that troll actually did try to make threads and posts, so my objective was successful..I don't know how that would be an "all time ownage" anyways..
- I wasn't going to make that account..
- The nickname is lame, as others have agreed..there are a lot better nicknames you could have came up with me for me if you had any creativity..
- You tried to take credit for making the account, when it wasn't even you
- I was right, I ended the troll before it began..
- I already admitted to being trolled when I made the thread..
- I know who made it too, he already told me his intentions with the troll..
- I discovered it by accident, as I've already said..
I'll have to assume you didn't watch the games then because I'd say Pau was one of the top few players in the league that the announcers, opposing players and coaches, and teammates talked aboutin terms of big men and their importance to their respective teams. There wasnt a single game where he wasnt talked about as being one of the top big men if not THE #1 big playing the game today. There were discussions ad nauseum about his skill set and how hes toughened up. Your boy Kobe himself said minutes after winning the le on national television that they couldnt have done it without the Spainard.
But wait... all those realities don't fuel your obsession. Nevermind!
Lakers fans are going to hate me for this, but a number-one overall power forward that can't get more than seven a game in a season, averaged 5 for his career? A player not expected to score consistently? He retired at 34? He went nowhere fast after Magic retired.
Last edited by Darrin; 08-19-2010 at 12:57 AM.
You may have a point on the rebounds ONLY.
I saw Worthy on the pistons in 88 and 89 ...even Rodman could not guard him and this when rodman played defense more than rebounded.
He just didnt have any help in 89 because Magic and Scott got hurt.
No excuses, Pistons were better but anyone that say Worthy couldnt ball without Magic watch the finals in 89 he was are only weapon ...
also, it was worthy's knees that limited him even more than losing Magic. Also he was a SF not a PF for us ...Rambis and Green played PF
I think thats a tad unfair. Magic gone, Kareem gone. Lakers in turmoil. Worthy was a solid contributor to the championships. Clearly not coattail accomplishments.Lakers fans are going to hate me for this, but a power forward that can't get more than seven a game in a season, averaged 5 for his career? A player not expected to score consistently? He went nowhere fast after Magic retired.
7× All-Star (1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992)
1× NBA Finals MVP (1988)
2× All-NBA Third Team Selection (1990–1991)
1983 NBA All-Rookie Team
NBA's 50th Anniversary All-Time Team
1× NCAA Men's Basketball Champion (1982)
1× NCAA Basketball Tournament Most Outstanding Player (1982)
His roll was to be the wing on the break. He wasn't there to rebound. That was Kareem and Greens job. James was nearing halfcourt as the rebounds were being grabbed.
Yeah, I just watched that 40-point thrashing in the game-four blowout. For the first three quarters, he was sick. That runner around Laimbeer was unlike anything I have seen. But watching him in game one, he made poor shot after poor shot, he didn't move the basketball or really more without it. The Pistons on them in game one. Plus, game 2 is the foul shot that would've tied the game.
Imagine if Lebron had cracked like that in Game 2? Or Jordan?
If I had to choose between Green or Worthy when I have two superstars already, I take Green. The man had a motor and was tough inside.
One of my fondest Laker memories. The Pistons huddle... the camara pans in... and Daly walks into the huddle and yells... "Worthy Worthy Worthy" and walks away.
I just did. He had one good game, and he wasn't that lively when the Lakers had a chance to win the series. I'm serious. I watched the whole series and just finished game 4 this morning. If I'm to draw conclusions from that small sample, then Tony Campbell was just as good as Worthy.
BTW, Rodman was hurt that series. He had a bad back.
Last edited by Darrin; 08-19-2010 at 02:56 AM.
I respectfully disagree with this statement.
Duncan 20.5 pts 14.1 reb 2.1 asst 2.14 blk
Ginobili 18.5 pts 5.8 reb 4.0 asst 1.28 stl
IMO, Duncan was the best player for the Spurs especially considering his greater impact on the defensive end and that some of Manu's points were from (forced) free throws at the end of games.
And in the 3rd quarter of game 7, Duncan made some big shots, got the Detroit frontline in foul trouble, forcing double teams and opening up the shooters. I loved Duncan's work in the paint in 2005 both offensively and defensively - 14+ rebounds against x2 Wallace and McDyess over a 7 game series.
http://www.nba.com/games/20050623/DETSAS/recap.html
Spurs coach Gregg Popovich said. "But he was incredible and he was the force that got it done for us."
"You follow your leader," Spurs guard Tony Parker said. "Timmy is the leader of the team, and he just carried us tonight."
"He put his team on his shoulders and carried them to a championship," Pistons center Ben Wallace said. "That's what the great players do."
"You could tell when he caught the ball, how much more physical he was, getting in position and bumping and grinding and getting shots and making sure he got toward the rim, so that when people came at him he was in good position to open up a teammate," Popovich said.
"A lot of the shots they made, open shots, came as a result of us having a hard time guarding him," Brown said. "That's why he's such a great player."
"Rasheed was strapped all game," Brown said. "If you don't have your big people with the ability to play aggressively on Duncan, you've got no shot."
Last edited by rmt; 08-19-2010 at 09:48 AM.
Yep, duncan was better.
how come you didn't post the fg% of each?
Tim Duncan
------------MP-- PTS-- FG---FGA--- FG%--TRB--AST-- STL---BLK
Game 1--- 41--- 24--- 10--- 22-- 0.455--- 17---- 2---- 0----- 2
Game 2--- 37--- 18 --- 5---- 10-- 0.500--- 11---- 1----- 0----- 4
Game 3--- 38--- 14 --- 5---- 15-- 0.333--- 10---- 4----- 3----- 1
Game 4--- 39--- 16 --- 5---- 17-- 0.294--- 16---- 2----- 0----- 3
Game 5--- 48--- 26 --- 11--- 24-- 0.458--- 19---- 2----- 0----- 2
Game 6--- 40--- 21 --- 8---- 14-- 0.571--- 15---- 1----- 0----- 1
Game 7--- 42--- 25 --- 10--- 27-- 0.370--- 11---- 3----- 0----- 2
AVG-------41---20.6---7.7- 18.4--0.426--14.2- 2.1- 0.43---2.14
Manu Ginobili
------------MP-- PTS-- FG---FGA--- FG%--TRB--AST-- STL---BLK
Game 1--- 39--- 26 ---10--- 16-- 0.625--- 9---- 2------ 1------0
Game 2--- 32--- 27 ----6----- 8-- 0.750---- 3---- 7------ 3----- 0
Game 3--- 29--- 7 ----- 2----- 6-- 0.333---- 4---- 0------ 0----- 0
Game 4--- 32--- 12 --- 4----- 9-- 0.444---- 4---- 3------ 1----- 1
Game 5--- 44--- 14 --- 5---- 16-- 0.313---- 6---- 9----- 1------ 0
Game 6--- 41--- 21 --- 7---- 17-- 0.412--- 10---- 3----- 2----- 0
Game 7--- 35--- 23 --- 8---- 13-- 0.615---- 5---- 4----- 1------ 0
AVG-------361--18.6--6.0--12.1--0.498--5.86- 4.0- 1.28---0.14
Last edited by scanry; 08-19-2010 at 04:37 AM.
Duncan averaged 21/14/2/2 and Manu averaged 19/6/4/1.3. There wasn't much into it. The thing that sealed it for Tim was his 3rd quarter performance. I don't Spurs had any chance of beating the Pistons after the 5 min mark of the 3rd Q. Tim made some huge shots and he literally broke the Pistons defense in the 4th. Manu and Horry were getting some wide open shots because of Tim getting doubled in the 4th..
Some of you really don't remember how that series went down, and really don't remember how game 7 went down.
Duncan was absolutely still the anchor of that Spurs team and generally speaking was still the best player on that team. But Manu was the MVP of that series. Manu did have a couple of bad games in the middle of the series when the Pistons had a couple of their wins. But Manu's imprint was all over the series. Going back and looking at the stats tells you part of the story, not the entire story. Manu averaged almost 5 minutes fewer than Duncan. That skews the numbers a little bit. Manu's couple of bad games in Detroit as well skew the numbers. It was strange that rmt selectively left out the shooting percentages. Tim Duncan a 6'11 power forward/center who throughout his career was around a 50% shooter or better shooting 42% from the field while Manu a perimeter player who is roughly a 45% shooter his entire career shooting 49% from the field.
Moreover, Manu was the one who was closing out the games. Look at game 7 and how it played out. Manu took over. Duncan went 2-for-5 and had three turnovers in the fourth. You guys try to argue Duncan took over the game in the second half of that third quarter and neglect to mention that Larry Brown gift-wrapped the series to Duncan and the Spurs when McDyess picked up his I believe 4th foul and subbed in Lindsey Hunter into the game, moving Tayshaun Prince to the PF spot. Genius right? Surprised Duncan went off? Nope. And then you guys neglect to mention how what Duncan did got the game tied, he didn't really do much in the fourth quarter at all while watching Manu take over the game and the series on offense and watch Bruce Bowen shut down both Rip Hamilton and Chauncey Billups.
And also the idea that Manu got open looks because Duncan was double teamed is horse . For probably about 95%+ of the series, the Pistons played Duncan straight up, single man-to-man coverage by any of the three Ben, Rasheed, or McDyess with that horrible joke of a small ball line-up and Prince covering him on a couple switches in that game 7 third quarter. Moreover, the times the Pistons did double team, they weren't double teaming off of Ginobili. Not sure why any Spurs fan would want to discredit Ginobili to prop up Duncan in that series. Ginobili was putting it on the Pistons. They weren't doubling off of him. Heck, Horry's famous three pointer in game 5 was Rasheed playing off Horry to double GINOBILI for a corner three pointer. That will tell you the Pistons weren't double off of Ginobili in that series, especially after what he did in games 1 and 2.
You guys really don't remember how that series went down. Duncan still put up good numbers aside from field goal shooting. But there is no question in my mind that Manu was the best player for the Spurs in that series. In fact, I don't think it was close. Ginobili won that series for the Spurs. It's a shame he didn't win the 2005 NBA Finals MVP.
I watched the entire game 7 (not just the last quarter) last night while on the treadmill so it's quite fresh in my memory. If one watches just the last quarter, it would seem as if Manu was the reason why they won that game. The championship DVD shows only the last quarter of the games - not the entire game as the 16-disc champions set does. But it was in the 3rd quarter that Duncan got really aggressive, eventually got the double-teams and found the open shooters. Even Manu at the end of the game on the DVD said so.
I'm not trying to discredit Manu - he had a fantastic 05 run and the Spurs wouldn't have gotten to the Finals or won without him, but IMO, Duncan was the real reason they won game 7. I'm sorry if you don't remember it as such but go to the recap that I linked to and read what the media, Pop, Parker, Wallace and Larry Brown had to say. I think that they all saw it differently from you.
I didn't selectively leave out the shooting percentages as I didn't copy and paste. It was 3 o'clock in morning and I did the averaging myself from the box scores (so that's why my numbers were off - Manu's stls and Duncan's blks were too low in the OP). Soon after someone asked about the % and another poster posted them so I didn't update my post.
Umm the fourth quarter of game 7 was when the series was decided, not the second half of the third quarter. It was still tied after three quarters. What Duncan did in the third quarter obviously was crucial to get the Spurs back in the game. It didn't decide the game. Manu balled his ass off in the fourth quarter. And you still didn't acknowledge Larry Brown's blunder in the third by replacing McDyess with Lindsey ing Hunter and going small ball. Rasheed already had 4 fouls. When Dice picked up his 4th, Larry Brown slid Prince over to PF. Hunter, Billups, Rip, Prince, and Ben Wallace, who himself had 3 fouls. Basically, Larry Brown told Ben Wallace not to pick up his fourth in that third quarter. What the was Larry Brown saving his bigs for? It was game 7 of the NBA Finals. That pissed off a lot of Pistons fans. So no big surprise with Duncan playing against Ben Wallace who wasn't trying to pick up a foul and getting a couple of chances in transition and delayed transition where Prince was switched on Duncan that he went completely off. Yes, that's how Duncan went off. He still had a good series, but for most of the series, particularly after game 1 and except for some stretches of the second half in the game 5 overtime game, the Pistons handled Duncan's offense pretty well and for the most part using only single coverage.
As for this imaginary notion that Duncan started to get heavily double teamed and opened things up for his teammates, that's far from reality, especially in that third quarter. The Pistons did try to collectively collapse on Duncan, but it didn't open things up for shooters. Manu was the only other player to score in the second half of the third quarter in game 7. One was a coast-to-coast unassisted lay-up and the other was a lay-up assisted by Robert Horry. Duncan did get a couple assists in the fourth quarter, but Manu had already taken over the quarter by then.
Again, the fourth quarter is where the game and the series and the championship was decided, not the third. That's where Manu shined and where Duncan was merely ok. Duncan had 5 points and 3 turnovers in that fourth quarter.
And I'm sorry, but quotes by players and coaches don't prove much at all. Duncan gets praise. Of course he will. He had already won two Finals MVPs and was the franchise player. That's what happens. Jordan got fellated after his game 6 debacle in 1996. That's just how it goes. Anyone really watching the series knows Ginobili was robbed of Finals MVP. , I was on these boards back in 2005 and a lot, maybe even most, Spurs fans were saying the same thing, that Ginobili deserved Finals MVP. You can quote the players and coached all you want. They can disagree with me all they want. I know what I saw.
Duncan still put up good numbers. Robert Horry saved the Spurs in game 5. And Manu won the championship in game 7. I'm surprised there are Spurs fans that would refuse to admit this. Most Spurs fans at the time knew, realized, and acknowledged this.
Last edited by JamStone; 08-19-2010 at 04:30 PM.
as usual? wtf.
Who the is Scanry anyways?
Then the Doctor said..."take some advil and it should be better in the morning."
thats great that the give slaves Advil
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