Because he loves humans, in spite of ourselves. We are the epitome of His creation, and have dominion over this world He provided. But He also gave us free will, so we have to choose Him back. That's it, though--pretty flexible standard if you ask me
But the problem is that I can't see a perfect being creating anything in the first place. There is literally nothing a perfect being can get out of human beings. There is no love. There is no knowledge. There is nothing an imperfect being can give to a perfect being that said perfect being doesn't already have.
Yes, because when the Hebrews left Egypt, the had no law at all. And they needed 'em, too, cuz while Moses was up on Mount Sinai, the Hebrews were acting a fool down below lol
An easy answer to this is "that's why He's God, and we're not," but that's kind of a cop out, if you ask me. To me, what you just stated is what makes God's love for us so special--there is nothing we can give Him that He needs, there is no way to thank Him enough for every breath we take, and He knew this before He started creating anything, and gave us life (and His Son) anyway.
Look, I'm not gonna sit here and try to make you believe what I believe or anything--believing in God/following God/whatever you wanna call it is a personal decision. All I can do is explain what I believe is true to you to the best of my abilities, and you can take it for what it's worth.
May God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ give you grace and peace.
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That doesn't tell me why a perfect God would care about what we did.Because he loves humans, in spite of ourselves. We are the epitome of His creation, and have dominion over this world He provided. But He also gave us free will, so we have to choose Him back. That's it, though--pretty flexible standard if you ask me
I used to be a Christian until I asked myself these questions. To me, it just does not make sense that a perfect being would create the universe in the first place. There is absolutely nothing he can gain out of it. There is actually no reason why he should care about what we do, and he should know what will happen anyway.
That's because I told you earlier lol. You stated yourself God is "all loving." If you're looking for logic, you're not going to find any. If you've ever been in love, you know exactly what I'm talking about--love prompts us mere humans to do and say things that might not seem like they make a lick of sense. How much more from the being who created "love" in the first place?
That's why God is love, man--we aren't worthy of being His creations, we definitely aren't worthy of spending eternity with Him in any way, shape, or form. Thing is, He's not in it for His own gain. It's my personal belief that He created us with a free will so we can find our way to Him and he can provide meaning for our lives, but that's purely conjecture from another messed up guy trying to figure this world out same as you are.
May God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ give you grace and peace.
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I don't think so.
There is little grammatical difference between "who" and "whom" whereas "your" and "you're" are two entirely different things.
yes there is.
if it's not a contradiction that God really didn't think what he made was good, then it means he is capable of change which contradicts James 1:17:
James 1:17 (New International Version)
17Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows.
May God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ give you grace and peace.
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That doesn't explain why God does it. For satisfaction? He already knows what's going to happen. Nothing human beings can possibly do would change the way God feels.
Christians ask themselves questions like these and throw logic out the window and say that God is just working in mysterious ways. I find the actions of a supposedly perfect being illogical and stop right there.
I'm not talking about in terms of grammatical inaccuracy. I just hate the fact that nobody uses "whom" anymore.
God said what He made was "good," not "perfect." Big difference. "Good" can change--God Himself does not.
I, for one, never use the "God's working in mysterious ways" line. However, just because we as humans can't comprehend something doesn't make it illogical. God (if you believe in Him) is perfect--we are not, therefore it's inherent that we're not gonna understand everything about Him (otherwise we'd all be God). You're also working from the assumption that God must gain something from creating us in order to be logical. That is somewhat presumptuous. You're attempting to make sense of the actions of a supernatural being by forcing him to abide by the standards of what we humans (His creations to begin with) deem "logical"?
There's really only two ways to believe in God--accept that we can't think and reason on the same plane as Him or presume to explain everything He does to the nth degree (in effect declaring ourselves on par with God by contending we can make logical sense of everything He does). There's no middle ground if you believe there is a God, as far as I'm concerned.
I hate when someone corrects me on grammar usage on a silly messageboard only to change his/her mind about why they corrected me.
so when God said what he made was "good", he lied.......mostly to himself.
So the Bible is inherently fallable, but you trust in it's truth.
Got it.
Truth is immutable, regardless of who penned it.
Since when does "good" mean perfect? That's stating fact, not lying by any conceivable stretch of the imagination lol. What part of the planet are you from?
The Bible is fallable because of who penned it, according to you.
Dude, why you gotta get this confused? I'm gonna say it nice and slow for your benefit.
The......Bible.....is.......fallable.........becau se..........it's...........penned........by....... ..man.
but............
Truth.....(contained......in.........the........Bi ble).....is.......unchanging........regardless.... ......of.........the........author.
Meaning, even ing Hitler could write something truthful. Just because the source is carnal doesn't invalidate the truth in the Bible.
Where did I imply that good means perfect?Since when does "good" mean perfect? That's stating fact, not lying by any conceivable stretch of the imagination lol. What part of the planet are you from?
What school district in Texas learned you reading comprehension?
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