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    Heres the state department "plan". The state department is essentially hiring mercenaries to replace the troops.
    Are those compounds "forward bases" or are you just using that phrase because it sounds neat?

    And you can call them whatever you want, but you can't call the 50,000 troops still there incapable of combat.

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    The latest bull in last couple weeks is that the Iraqis won't be able to defend their borders without the Americans there.

    Get over it, dubya, Repugs, his neo-c*nt buddies, oilcos have condemned US to wasting more $Ts and 1000s more lives for many decades.

    US annual oil imports are only about $300B year. Insanity

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    why does the state department have a military? Does anyone else see a problem with this in general?
    So they can protect Hillary when she gets shot at during landings.

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    It's all a big lie, window dressing, a charade, by the politicians and by the military.

    "However, as reported Thursday by The Army Times, US combat brigades remain in Iraq, with different names:

    As the final convoy of the Army’s 4th Stryker Brigade Combat Team, based at Fort Lewis, Wash., entered Kuwait early Thursday, a different Stryker brigade remained in Iraq.

    Soldiers from the 2nd Stryker Brigade Combat Team of the 25th Infantry Division are deployed in Iraq as members of an Advise and Assist Brigade, the Army’s designation for brigades selected to conduct security force assistance.

    So while the “last full U.S. combat brigade” have left Iraq, just under 50,000 soldiers from specially trained heavy, infantry and Stryker brigades will stay, as well as two combat aviation brigades."

    http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0820/str...y-role-iraq-2/
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    Petraeus: We’re Not Leaving Iraq

    Pentagon Surprised to Hear Reports that War Ended

    by Jason Ditz, August 19, 2010




    As Obama Administration officials and a willing mainstream media report that yesterday was the end of the Iraq War it would likely surprise many that 56,000 US troops remain on the ground engaging in combat operations.


    But it seems like the spin is even more surprising to the Pentagon leadership, as Gen. David Petraeus was pressed today on whether this was the right time to have left Iraq, and he said what he most likely wasn’t supposed to say.


    First of all we are not leaving,” Petraues insisted, adding that “there are 50,000 US troops that are remaining in Iraq” and that they retain an “enormous capability.” It is a capability that is tough to reconcile with the official story that these are all just trainers.


    Gen. Petraeus could perhaps be forgiven for not being on message. After all, he is still getting his bearings as the new commander in Afghanistan and probably didn’t have time to catch the news on MSNBC.


    But then Pentagon Press Secretary Geoff Morrell declared, on MSNBC, “I don’t think anybody has declared the end of the war as far as I know.” He perhaps missed the headlines across the American press declaring exactly that, and the number of Obama Administration officials crowing about the “promise kept” to end the war.


    President Obama’s decision to select yesterday as the official “victory” day for Iraq appears to have taken a lot of people by surprise, not the least being all those troops still in Iraq and still fighting. But the Pentagon’s break with them, admitting that the war is still going on while the media-friendly celebration is still going on, certainly complicates the already ill-defined message.

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    More continuity.

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    Somewhere down the road, we trust that August 18, 2010 will be remembered as Victory in Iraq day.

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    the people left behind are not in a combat mission. They are either on stand-by to help if the Iraqis, General or higher, ask or are in a training mission.

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    You believe the govt + military lies? ok, figures.

    read the Military Times article I posted. It's not communist/progressive rag.

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    It's good to see this all went according to the plans 7 years ago.

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    If this war had lasted only 1 year it still would have been a failure. But of course Bush Admin leadership thought it would last about two months and require half the troops we initially sent (despite the warnings of the Generals Bushy always says he's just following).

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    If this war had lasted only 1 year it still would have been a failure. But of course Bush Admin leadership thought it would last about two months and require half the troops we initially sent (despite the warnings of the Generals Bushy always says he's just following).
    Want some cheese with that whine?

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    Want some cheese with that whine?


    Just goes to show you how separated typical Americans typing from the safety of their home are from the war in Iraq.

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    It's good to see this all went according to the plans 7 years ago.
    WTF does this even mean? If you are saying the plan in 2003 was to have combat troops fighting for seven years, you are an even bigger idiot than you have shown yourself to previously be.

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    WTF does this even mean? If you are saying the plan in 2003 was to have combat troops fighting for seven years, you are an even bigger idiot than you have shown yourself to previously be.
    That's exactly what he means. And yes, he is an idiot of epic proportions who is entrenching himself even deeper in his own stupidity.

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    That's exactly what he means. And yes, he is an idiot of epic proportions who is entrenching himself even deeper in his own stupidity.
    I really want verification of this. I think it is too stupid a statement to be serious, even for WC.

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    He purposely left that statement ambiguous enough to allow him to later dismiss it as "humor".

    Don't be fooled. That is exactly what he means and exactly how he feels.

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    He purposely left that statement ambiguous enough to allow him to later dismiss it as "humor".

    Don't be fooled. That is exactly what he means and exactly how he feels.
    If that's the case, he needs to plan his exit strategy from this thread.

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    Want some cheese with that whine?
    Dumbass.

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    If that's the case, he needs to plan his exit strategy from this thread.
    Well, he's got 7 years or so to think of one.

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    Want some cheese with that whine?
    Stupid

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    My God.

    Things are going just as planned years ago, except no date would be given. The only credit I give president Obama is that he didn't screw the plans up.

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    So he really is that stupid.

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    Yup.

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