This is Wurzbach Parkway in the mornings. Y'all will read about me in the paper one day, I promise you.
Since I quit smoking I'm still very sensitive around smoke and it makes me violently nauseous, it's not even a matter of whether or not I want to smell like that, it's a matter of having to vomit.
I really don't give a about the bars and clubs anymore because I really don't care to go there. But I did love to go to Retama Park, and there is no where to escape it ... inside or out. So, I have to avoid going there, too.
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If there's so much demand for non-smoking bars I don't understand why more bars didn't ban smoking on their own.
In practice it hasn't been that big of a deal in Dallas. But in principle it's wrong. It's less of an imposition on bar/restaurant customers than it is on owners, who should be able to open a place of business that allows smoking if they choose to, at least while smoking is still legal.
it was always, always, always allowed in bowling alleys, restaurants and the work place. I don't hear anyone complaining about not being able to smoke at work any more.
And nobody is outlawing drinking and smoking.
how harmful do you think 2nd hand smoke is?
If there's such a demand for non-smoking racetracks then you need to build your own.I really don't give a about the bars and clubs anymore because I really don't care to go there. But I did love to go to Retama Park, and there is no where to escape it ... inside or out. So, I have to avoid going there, too.
I've never been a smoker, but it doesn't bother me. I've never been any public place where I couldn't avoid smoke by taking a step or 2 in another direction. I remember when you could be sat in a restaurant next to a chain smoker, and I can't recall that being an issue with me.
But what drives me absolutely CRAZY is how my kids have been indoctrinated by the schools against it. If they, God forbid, catch a whiff of a cigarette from 20 feet away, I am subjected to all sorts of drama and ing about "that disgusting habit", "inconsiderate people", "oh my God, I'm dying!", etc. If smoking bans can end that for me, then
2nd hand cig smoke is not as bad as walking down a city sidewalk and breathing in the exhaust of hundreds of vehicles driving by.
HOOKING YOUTH A 1969 report from Philip Morris explains their hook for youth: “Smoking for the beginner is a symbolic act…I am no longer my mother’s child, I’m tough, I am an adventurer…As the force from the psychological symbolism subsides, the pharmacological effect takes over to sustain the habit.”
Banning smoking in bars is re ed. Should be up to the bar owner whether or not he allows smoking or not. People who don't smoke can find places to go that don't allow it and vice versa. Of course restaurants are different. Banning smoking in all places that serve food makes sense to me.
Getting rid of both would be a good thing.
Banning smoking in a place that serves food makes sense to you.
Banning smoking in a place that serves drinks is re ed to you.
If that's your argument, why can't people just go find a restaurant that doesn't allow smoking?
Smoking in bars has been banned for a couple of years here now. Best law ever. Bars are far more enjoyable.
If second hand smoke is harmful enough to do real damage to non-smokers in the amount of time it takes to enter a bar or restaurant, discover that it allows smoking, and leave... then smoking should be banned altogether.
it only took you until page 5 to get it.
Should I interpret from your smug condescension that you feel smoking should be banned completely?
I don't smoke, don't like it. I love however the occasional cigar. Its not about smoking convenience and where to go for me. Its the fact that government overreaches its boundaries and involves and pushes itself into the lives of people where it shouldn't be. Govt has no place in forcing business into something that will effect their business.
For you fools that think "Well its just for business itll stop there" Yeah because GOVT has NO precedence what so ever of then saying well, we banned it here it now needs to be banned here. Are you now OK with people in their own homes not being allowed to smoke? People on a street? Cause thats where its going. If you don't think it is your just as foolish as thinking "well, the govt just wants to ban it here and no where else" Never. When govt is allowed a little it takes a whole crap load more.
When I will get to San Antonio and you will smoke your occasional cigar and poof in my face I will smash you completely
Specifically, if what the surgeon general says is true, then second hand smoke in public places should be banned completely.
I really thought I made my point clear and easy to interpret by now. I guess not.
So you don't like that government forces restaurants to meet certain health guidelines?
No. People can and should be able to do whatever they want with legal and legally obtained substances in their own homes.Are you now OK with people in their own homes not being allowed to smoke?
What instance can you think of that government tells us of what we can't do in our own homes?
If it's a publicly maintained street, yes.People on a street?
Give an example of how our govt was allowed a little but took a whole crap load more.Cause thats where its going. If you don't think it is your just as foolish as thinking "well, the govt just wants to ban it here and no where else" Never. When govt is allowed a little it takes a whole crap load more.
Don't ever come to this country you fascist euro .
What's the difference?
Your private property and your home are both yours. The govt should never force it's will on your property.
Especially when you want to build a place of worship.
Wow, I never fought I would scare somebody with my post
My Grandma retired the day she could no longer smoke at her desk.
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