Okay, I'll bite...

[desflood]

It doesn't help that most guys still grow up saying 'yes Sir' to their fathers and getting jobs at 14, while a lot of girls grow up with the impression that they're princesses who deserve super sweet sixteens and a luxury automobile just for being them.

I will say this, though, balli hit the nail on the head with the "princess" generalization. Ive had a job since I was 11, I know women who are 30 who still have never actually worked (they still babysit).

Having worked since I was 14, I'm going to have to disagree with your generalizations. By comparison, I never knew a male peer to have a job before the age of 18, but knew many who had to be kicked out of Mom and Dad's house in their 20's.

[balli]

It does seem this Barbie, Disney bull that little girls are fed at such a young age does have some lasting impact on their personal expectations in life. Some seriously think theyre special in some way.

For example, my buddy is the most dedicated guy I know (outside myself, of course). He's a self-made guy through and through, no help from anyone along the way. He works in advertising (no degree) and makes a little less than $100k a year, does graphic design on the side (mostly brochures, newsletters and websites) for banks, corporations and local businesses, athletic and self-motivated.

He married a girl 5 years younger than him who comes from nothing. Her parents arent losers or anything, but theyre just lower middle class nobodies (with no personality I might add). So she has had no parent-provided luxury her entire life. She meets this guy and suddenly she gets a taste of the good-ish life, you know? Her parents never pulled any dollars, whereas this single guy shes dating has a house, two cars and money in the bank.

They date, they get married. Her tastes change basically overnight. Now its nothing but eating out every night (btw, she doesnt cook or clean, but she does work for $14 an hour), Coach/Louie Vatton purses and nice clothes (I dont give a flying if I spelled LV correctly, namebrands mean absolutely nothing to me...less than zero). She gets pregnant and has ZERO maternal instincts. I mean, I remember this so vividly...

He would be over my house watching a game and she would call him in a panic because the baby needed to be fed and she had no clue (nor cared to learn) how to feed him. How to heat the bottle, tip the head, hold the baby and knowing when he was done. NO CLUE nor wanted to learn. She expected him to talk her through the step-by-step process every time for feeding, diaper changes, etc.

It isnt that she was dumb, its that she expected to be treated like a princess. Baby care was below her and she would get irate if he wasnt available to do it for her.

Anyway...

After being married 3 years and having a 1.5 yr old baby with a dedicated husband who provided everything she'd ever dreamed, she wants a divorce. No reason, she said "I dont love you anymore."

He asked how that happened?

Get this...really get this knowing what I wrote earlier about this girl and him...

"You dont hold me anymore at night."

He took it well, didnt get upset or anything. Me? I got pissed when he told me. Are you ing kidding?! That Twilight-reading dumb who comes from ing nothing is divorcing you because you dont "sparkle" or have kiss-sex?!

Completely unrealistic idiot wants an ever-lasting romance like her books tell her about. Theres a reason you find that tripe in the fiction section of the bookstore, you ing moron. You work two jobs, take care of the baby, cook every night, clean the ing house and deal with your indecisive and unrealistic dumbass everyday and see how much cuddling you want to do!!

I told him to run, run for the ing hills. She wants out? Help her ing pack and drop her off at whatever ing truckstop is nearest your residence.

Ungrateful little who before him, didnt know a damn thing about luxury and convenience except for the modest lifestyle her parents provided for her (to great lengths, apprently, judging by her complete lack of skill in anything domestic).

What a dumb . I hope she falls in love with some unemployed drunkard who beats her...but snuggles every night.

Anyway, my buddy took it well...I, otoh, didnt (as you can tell). He is so going to knock down the finest trim in the near future, he's going to be dating new es every month that are 9s and 10s with his job, money, dedication and a cute little 2 year old kid.

Shes such a moron.

[marini martini]

DarkReign, so your friend got custody of the baby???

[ALWAYS bet on BLACK]

Perfect.

These s, mainly white women, are such morons.

[DarkReign]

DarkReign, so your friend got custody of the baby???

Divorce isnt final, but she has made it clear that she wants him to be primary guardian.

Therefore, he only have to pay alimony instead of both alimony and child support. She wants him to draw up the agreement (with a lawyer, of course) and she just wants to sign and leave.

I have a pretty good guess the moment she meets another man (if she hasnt already) and he finds out she isnt getting paid that my buddy will find himself in court in less than 2 years with her wanting alimony, custody and child support.

Then I will suggest to him having her killed will be cheaper in the long run and I hope he seriously considers it.

[DarkReign]

Having worked since I was 14, I'm going to have to disagree with your generalizations. By comparison, I never knew a male peer to have a job before the age of 18, but knew many who had to be kicked out of Mom and Dad's house in their 20's.

I figured it was a case-by-case basis, then. To be fair, I know men who are complete ing losers, too. Dont want to work for anything, expect the best jobs with the best pay even though their skills dont merit anything above mediocre pay, etc.

I didnt want to make it sound like this is gender specific, only that maybe these stupid-ass Disney/Barbie stereotypes develop unrealistic expectations in some women, moreso than men, IMO.

I dont judge an entire gender on one example, good or bad. Its just that it seems this at ude is more prevelant in women than men. Thats all.

As a counterpoint, my wife is extraordinary. Hardworker, dedicated, domestic and loving. We all have our hangups and idiosyncrasies of course, but hers are endearing, not enraging.

BTW, I am a bit of a chauvinist. I openly and readily admit that. Im not the "barefoot and pregnant" sort of guy, but there are traditional stereotypes of a woman's role that I appreciate, but do not expect.

It bothers my wife sometimes, but thats life and one of my idiosyncrasies.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

You know I want to know if I know these people.

[manufan10]

Boys rule and girls drool!

[Spam]

For the most part women are great but some really suck major ass.

[ALWAYS bet on BLACK]

For the most part women are great but some really suck major ass.

The women who suck major ass are the ones worth keeping. You can't put a price tag on a good rim job.

[balli]

Having worked since I was 14, I'm going to have to disagree with your generalizations. By comparison, I never knew a male peer to have a job before the age of 18, but knew many who had to be kicked out of Mom and Dad's house in their 20's.

I'm guessing as Ima product of catholic schools and the upper east bench of a thoroughly caucasian city, my view is more than myopic. All I can say is that all the way up through HS, college and beyond, I've known far more than my fair share of girls who walk around with the rock solid belief that their doesn't stink and that the world owes them for that.

[SA210]

I dont let people get me down regardless of gender. Maybe they make them different in the South or I just never ran with a crowd that condones an uppity woman/man, but I dont understand most of the pseudo-hate here, either.

I will say this, though, balli hit the nail on the head with the "princess" generalization. Ive had a job since I was 11, I know women who are 30 who still have never actually worked (they still babysit). Hearing them talk about their "problems" makes me want to unplug their oxygen supply.

It does seem this Barbie, Disney bull that little girls are fed at such a young age does have some lasting impact on their personal expectations in life. Some seriously think theyre special in some way.

For example, my buddy is the most dedicated guy I know (outside myself, of course). He's a self-made guy through and through, no help from anyone along the way. He works in advertising (no degree) and makes a little less than $100k a year, does graphic design on the side (mostly brochures, newsletters and websites) for banks, corporations and local businesses, athletic and self-motivated.

He married a girl 5 years younger than him who comes from nothing. Her parents arent losers or anything, but theyre just lower middle class nobodies (with no personality I might add). So she has had no parent-provided luxury her entire life. She meets this guy and suddenly she gets a taste of the good-ish life, you know? Her parents never pulled any dollars, whereas this single guy shes dating has a house, two cars and money in the bank.

They date, they get married. Her tastes change basically overnight. Now its nothing but eating out every night (btw, she doesnt cook or clean, but she does work for $14 an hour), Coach/Louie Vatton purses and nice clothes (I dont give a flying if I spelled LV correctly, namebrands mean absolutely nothing to me...less than zero). She gets pregnant and has ZERO maternal instincts. I mean, I remember this so vividly...

He would be over my house watching a game and she would call him in a panic because the baby needed to be fed and she had no clue (nor cared to learn) how to feed him. How to heat the bottle, tip the head, hold the baby and knowing when he was done. NO CLUE nor wanted to learn. She expected him to talk her through the step-by-step process every time for feeding, diaper changes, etc.

It isnt that she was dumb, its that she expected to be treated like a princess. Baby care was below her and she would get irate if he wasnt available to do it for her.

Anyway...

After being married 3 years and having a 1.5 yr old baby with a dedicated husband who provided everything she'd ever dreamed, she wants a divorce. No reason, she said "I dont love you anymore."

He asked how that happened?

Get this...really get this knowing what I wrote earlier about this girl and him...

"You dont hold me anymore at night."

He took it well, didnt get upset or anything. Me? I got pissed when he told me. Are you ing kidding?! That Twilight-reading dumb who comes from ing nothing is divorcing you because you dont "sparkle" or have kiss-sex?!

Completely unrealistic idiot wants an ever-lasting romance like her books tell her about. Theres a reason you find that tripe in the fiction section of the bookstore, you ing moron. You work two jobs, take care of the baby, cook every night, clean the ing house and deal with your indecisive and unrealistic dumbass everyday and see how much cuddling you want to do!!

I told him to run, run for the ing hills. She wants out? Help her ing pack and drop her off at whatever ing truckstop is nearest your residence.

Ungrateful little who before him, didnt know a damn thing about luxury and convenience except for the modest lifestyle her parents provided for her (to great lengths, apprently, judging by her complete lack of skill in anything domestic).

What a dumb . I hope she falls in love with some unemployed drunkard who beats her...but snuggles every night.

Anyway, my buddy took it well...I, otoh, didnt (as you can tell). He is so going to knock down the finest trim in the near future, he's going to be dating new es every month that are 9s and 10s with his job, money, dedication and a cute little 2 year old kid.

Shes such a moron.

Damn, just reminds me of my ex. Sorry for your friend. I know he will be ok, but damn, for the time wasted on a stupid woman who's head is in la la land. She wants a divorce?

OMG. I broke up with my ex over a month ago for something she did really bad to me, something unforgivable. She treated my little girl bad and even put her hands on her. I filed a police report. She is a chronic cheater and pathological liar.

Now she wants to call out of nowhere 4 weeks later begging me to talk to her. And she begs and begs, but never crying or anything. She leaves crazy voice-mails saying things like, "Hey YOU! Hey stranger, I miss Youuuuuuu...Just wanna see how your doin..Oh well, guess I'll talk to ya later.."

Saying everything as if she's being so cute. As if we didn't just go through a horrible breakup, as if nothing happened at all.

I've just been ignoring her and it drives her crazy. My cell is a business number so I can't change it, I'd rather not. She texts hateful messages then calls back saying she's sorry and that I need to face her and be a man.

Then she tries using the tired old trick of, "I think you have some belongings of mine and I need them so you need to answer your phone"

The other night she leaves me a vm saying that she works at a bar now and that hot guys hit on her all night long, all the time, but she still only thinks of me. I guess she thought that would make me answer the phone but I didn't.

Anyway, I guess a neighbor of hers called CPS on her and her kids (all 4 of which I supported along with my own daughter, all while she spent her time cheating on me and being conniving). So since I blocked her from my social networking sites, she found my facebook from a new profile she made for herself and messaged me that she couldn't believe I would stoop to the level of calling CPS on her and that she is through with ME and never wants to see me again and that she hates me more than she's ever hated anyone.

I think there is a reason I haven't answered Your calls psycho moron, because I have been through with YOU! Damn.

I'm sure she'll be calling again soon though.

[DarkReign]

You know I want to know if I know these people.

No, you dont. Guy was my neighbor when my wife and I moved into our second apartment.

Only met him in about 2005, but we've been hanging out ever since. really cool dude, if a bit...sensitive, I guess. He's a post-modern male (whereas I am anything but) in certain ways.

Not a crybaby or anything (far from), but you can tell he was raised by his mother, if you know what I mean.

[Ignignokt]

I for one still love women and definitely love mine.

ZZZZZzzzzzzzzz.... ZZZZZzzzzzzzzz.... ZZZZZzzzzzzzz...

[AFBlue]

It seems like there's a bunch of broad-brush generalizations going on in this thread so I'll paint one myself...

Anyone who uses their limited personal experience with a few individuals to form an opinion of an entire group of people is an idiot...and ones who routinely comment to that end are jackasses.

Individuals in all categories (men, women, young, old, white, black, and so on) can be lazy, stupid, ty wastes of space. It's not limited to one group.

[leemajors]

Divorce isnt final, but she has made it clear that she wants him to be primary guardian.

Therefore, he only have to pay alimony instead of both alimony and child support. She wants him to draw up the agreement (with a lawyer, of course) and she just wants to sign and leave.

I have a pretty good guess the moment she meets another man (if she hasnt already) and he finds out she isnt getting paid that my buddy will find himself in court in less than 2 years with her wanting alimony, custody and child support.

Then I will suggest to him having her killed will be cheaper in the long run and I hope he seriously considers it.

It would likely be difficult for her to get primary back if he has his together, I imagine. In my experience, the court considers the child's well being first. It got me standard possession +1 day - Tues, Thurs, and 1st, 3rd, and 5th weekends. I have to pay support, but I come out ahead in possession time (which makes it frustrating that I have to pay, but I got a lot).

[LnGrrrR]

Okay. Great. That tells me what is likely not the reason. Not what I asked, though.

Seriously, why do you (whomever) find the misogyny funny? Specifically.

Probably for the same reason that cartoon violence is funny. The further the disconnect from the person getting the violence done to them, and the person viewing the violence, the more likely that it will be interpreted in a funny/comedic way.

Tragedy + Time = Comedy, and since Einstein has proved space and time can not exist without each other, I postulate that

Tragedy + Spacetime = Comedy.

[LnGrrrR]

Not a crybaby or anything (far from), but you can tell he was raised by his mother, if you know what I mean.

Nothing wrong with that. (For the not-so-quick, I was as well, for the most part.)

[MiamiHeat]

I've noticed that the Jennifer Anniston thread has turned into another repository for hateful comments about women. There have been jokes around here for as long as I've been posting, but the anti-women comments have gotten not only considerably more bitter over the last few months, but have become so common as to be nearly impossible to avoid no matter the topic of a particular thread.

Let me be clear: this is not me being butthurt and whining that people shouldn't be allowed to post such things. Post whatever the you want.

But I can't help wondering what, exactly, is the inspiration for such sentiments. This isn't the only place I've heard/read some of these "jokes," but it is certainly the place where I've encountered the highest concentration. Is it merely following Trainwreck's example by stealing his shtick? Is it an actual trend amongst men of a certain age, here and elsewhere? Or does SpursTalk just have an unusually large concentration of male posters who can't get laid and have turned bitter as a result?

If it's the former, that shtick isn't anywhere near as funny as you all seem to think it is. If it's the middle option, well... that just makes me sad. And troubled. If it's the latter, might I recommend raising your standards a bit instead of dating/ ing only the worst my gender has to offer.

um

why aren't you in the kitchen making me a sammich?

[MiamiHeat]

oh, and women are emotional and ing stupid. i'm talking in general, not EVERY SINGLE ONE

yes there are women smarter than me out there, but in GENERAL.

It has been this way for thousands of years.

Almost every father, since the beginning of civilization, has told their son something along the lines of :

"Son, be careful of the woman. She is man's biggest problem. She can seduce you, destroy your life, and make you sacrifice everything for her and you will never see it coming. Control yourself, be careful around them, and don't take them too seriously"

[chunticakes]

im gonna go ahead and skip all the bull and get to the point....jennifer aniston is butt ugly.

[Ignignokt]

um

why aren't you in the kitchen making me a sammich?

Cuz she'd rather starve an unemployed PT cruiser hat wearing with reverse sophist steel toed boots.

[Ignignokt]

oh, and women are emotional and ing stupid. i'm talking in general, not EVERY SINGLE ONE

yes there are women smarter than me out there, but in GENERAL.

It has been this way for thousands of years.

Almost every father, since the beginning of civilization, has told their son something along the lines of :

"Son, be careful of the woman. She is man's biggest problem. She can seduce you, destroy your life, and make you sacrifice everything for her and you will never see it coming. Control yourself, be careful around them, and don't take them too seriously"

YOU cried about a pizza not getting heated. STFU.

[Jekka]

yes there are women smarter than me out there, but in GENERAL.

Yes - in GENERAL, the women out there are smarter than you. Not because you're a man, but because you are a dip , and in GENERAL most of the men are smarter than you, too. Gender equality FTW.

[MannyIsGod]

Cuz she'd rather starve an unemployed PT cruiser hat wearing with reverse sophist steel toed boots.