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    Were The Founding Fathers Psychic?

    George Washington: “Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.”

    Thomas Jefferson: “Delay is preferable to error.”

    John Adams: “Fear is the foundation of most governments.”

    James Madison: “Do not separate text from historical background. If you do, you will have perverted and subverted the Cons ution, which can only end in a distorted, bas ized form of illegitimate government.”


    http://www.redstate.com/bpickle/2010...thers-psychic/

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    No, they weren't.

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    Looks like they were, based on these quotations. I think you hate our Founders.

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    They weren't. I think your inference is flawed.

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    They weren't. I think your inference is flawed.
    I'm not the only person making the inference. You still hate our beloved Founders.

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    I'm not the only person making the inference.
    I'm not talking about that inference.
    You still hate our beloved Founders.
    That inference.

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    you can "prove" any damn thing by quoting the FF's, like "proving" stuff from the Bible.

    "Do not separate text from historical background."

    And red-state thinks this supports their retrograde politics of hate and xenophobia?

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    Were The Founding Fathers Psychic?

    George Washington: “Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.”

    Thomas Jefferson: “Delay is preferable to error.”

    John Adams: “Fear is the foundation of most governments.”

    James Madison: “Do not separate text from historical background. If you do, you will have perverted and subverted the Cons ution, which can only end in a distorted, bas ized form of illegitimate government.”


    http://www.redstate.com/bpickle/2010...thers-psychic/
    Rather than prescience or psychic abilities, which is absurd, they were most likely astute observers of history. You don't have to guess what may happen when you have centuries of history of what has happened.

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    I'm pretty sure the founding fathers would be pretty turned off by the attempts at deification.

    And they owned slaves.

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    you can "prove" any damn thing by quoting the FF's, like "proving" stuff from the Bible.

    "Do not separate text from historical background."

    And red-state thinks this supports their retrograde politics of hate and xenophobia?
    prove socialism then.


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    I'm pretty sure the founding fathers would be pretty turned off by the attempts at deification.

    And they owned slaves.
    Slavery was legal back then.


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    Slavery was legal back then.
    And the founding fathers wrote inequality into the Cons ution.

    They were men.

    They were not psychic.

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    And the founding fathers wrote inequality into the Cons ution.
    You a big fan of Karl Marx?


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    You a big fan of Karl Marx?

    You a big fan of the 3/5 clause?


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    Slavery was legal back then.

    Apparently they didn't use their psychic powers to see into the future where we finally figured out enslaving people was wrong.

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    Apparently they didn't use their psychic powers to see into the future where we finally figured out enslaving people was wrong.
    That certainly explains the lack of an "Anti-Cheney clause".

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    Apparently they didn't use their psychic powers to see into the future where we finally figured out enslaving people was wrong.
    err, we have more slaves in the US today than we did in 1776. Today, we have 2 million people enslaved, in 1776 it was only 500,000.

    So you.

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    err, we have more slaves in the US today than we did in 1776. Today, we have 2 million people enslaved, in 1776 it was only 500,000.

    So you.
    U mad?

    Many founding fathers owned slaved.

    And they were not psychic.

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    err, we have more slaves in the US today than we did in 1776. Today, we have 2 million people enslaved, in 1776 it was only 500,000.

    So you.
    there are 2 million legal slaves in the U.S? err, huh?

    Define slave and please elaborate on where these slaves are.

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    This is like Chariots of the Gods. No way the swarthy, primitive Egyptians were up to building the pyramids.
    Last edited by Winehole23; 08-27-2010 at 04:56 PM.

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    The aliens must have helped them.

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    Student of Liberty Galileo's Avatar
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    there are 2 million legal slaves in the U.S? err, huh?

    Define slave and please elaborate on where these slaves are.
    People who are locked up, we have about 2.5 million. Most slaves in 1776 were not actually locked up. If you count all unfree people in the in the US, it is another 5 million, for a total of about 7.5 million. Typically, an unfree person is the definition of a slave, even if you're not locked up.

    So the Founding Fathers had a LOT less slavery than our government today.

    here's a source:

    Incarceration in the United States
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarce..._United_States

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    Prisoners are not slaves.

    Spectacular definition fail.

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    Prisoners are not slaves.

    Spectacular definition fail.
    Oh yes they are. You support slavery. You probably trade in the human flesh market.

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    Oh yes they are. You support slavery. You probably trade in the human flesh market.
    The word slavery wasn't anywhere in your source.

    If anyone in this forum is an apologist for slavery, it's you.

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