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lol Durant is better than Dirk at pretty much everything except taking care of the ball.
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Every team has a wingman or perimeter player that is either a defensive specialist or a spot up three point shooter, you'll always get a chance of hiding Dirk by guarding those kind of guys, while as a bigman even if you put him on a below average offensive player he will still present liabities, for ex. not beign a defensive presence for the rivals that attack the basket and in the offensive end preventing his team from getting 2nd chance oportunities 'cause he always plays in the perimeter, leaving his team a man short under the basket.
lol Durant is better than Dirk at pretty much everything except taking care of the ball.
Durant's a better player than Dirk now. Better eFG%, better True Shooting %, better rebounding %, higher assist %, better defender. Only thing Dirk is better is in taking care of the ball. Dirk had a lower turnover % last year than Durant.
Dirk hands down! He can hurt you in the low post, in the high post, three point line, rebounds, pffff
If its about the RIGHT NOW (some re s here were of course to stupid to understand OPs question) i will take Dirk.
Dirk could average 30 if he wants and has more unstoppable moves than Durant + experience.
both are shooting guards in long bodies. currently Dirk may be a pinch better, at least Dirk is more experienced and has won more badges. Dirk cranks out stable outputs every game, even when his team plays bad. Durant however is far more inconsistent and is often affected by team's oscillations.
Jordan is better than Tyson at everything but boxing.
Having less turnovers does not equal better ball-handler, Nash has more turnovers than Dirk do you consider Nowitzki to be a better ball-handler than Nash?
P/S: Weren't you part of the boycott?
nice try
We are not comparing a PG and SF/PF, we comparing a 6-10 SF and the best shooting PF, so yes, turnovers does equals here whos the better ball-handler
stats say nothing. Durant's gangstas are much better than the dip s moseying around Dirk, so Durant faces less pressure on both ends of the floor than Dirk takes. Dirk is just like a stiff phallus vertically erected pointing to the sky, surrounded by countless pubes hairs who can basically give no support.
is that the wikipedia description of Terry/Howard post 2006?
We are comparing basketball players here, the only reason Durant has more turnovers than Dirk is 'cause he handles the ball a lot more than Dirk, BTW Durant has a lot more to do with Nash than Dirk, Nash and Durant are perimeter players, Dirk is a bigman.
Durant at 21 years old is pretty close to being as good as Dirk in his prime. I'd choose Durant.
Dirk has a turnover % of something like 8 percent while using 28 percent of his team's possessions. Durant has a turnover % of 11 percent while using 33 percent of his team's possessions. Dirk is a better ballhander than Durant.
Eh, it's August 27th, I've held out long enough. This thread I just couldn't resist. I
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Lets wait for the next try...
90% of that 28% is Dirk getting the ball in the low/high post and pulling for a fadeaway or shooting right away out of a pick and roll, Dirk doesn't drible the ball nearly as much as Durant does.
Neither are primary ball handlers. Durant might handle the ball a little more than Dirk, their teams' offenses both run through each. As Findog just mentioned, Dirk has a pretty high usage rate as well. But I'd give that more to Dirk's veteran experience and knowing not to be too careless with the ball. Plus I think Durant probably handles the ball more in transition, which would lead to more turnovers.
Durant might be a little better at dribbling the basketball, but he's not a better ball handler. There's a distinction to be made. Handling the ball is more than just being able to dribble the ball well. It's about making smart passes, not being careless when you have possession of the basketball, having soft hands to catch passes, knowing which teammates you can make a hard bullet pass to and teammates you need to make firm bounce passes to because they'll bobble the ball otherwise. If you want to say Durant can dribble the basketball better, that is reasonable. Dirk is a better ball handler.
That's really the only argument you can make for Dirk. By every statistical measure, Durant > Dirk except for turnover % and block %.
Like Jamstone said, taking care of the ball and ball-handling is more than who is a better dribbler or looks better doing it.
Nash's usage rate: 22.9% Turnover rate: 21.4%
Are Nowitzki and Durant both better ball handlers than Nash?
If you stuck them at the point, probably not. If you had Nash play a wing or post position, then most definitely.
Different position, i know its really hard to understand....
lol not understanding they play at different positions.
That's exactly my point, Durant and Nowitzki play different positions, Durant is a perimeter player therefore he dribles the ball a lot more and usually the guy that has more the ball in his hands tends to make more turnovers, is not that difficult to get.
ballcontrolling reflects/requires a wider range of attributes than only handling. he who controls the ball better must have better vision/judgement, which IMHO makes Dirk a better controller. most times Durant dribbles head down and will finally lose the ball in a big crowd, while Dirk appears much wiser and can always hurl the ball to an open teammate just in time.
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