Spurs Not Finished Making Moves

[will_spurs]

I think he'll play whoever looks like they belong out there.

Like Finley, the ghost of Mason Jr, and Bogans in consecutive years... while leaving prospects to rot. I really, really hope the Spurs don't sign a vet before the start of the season.

[admiralsnackbar]

If prospects didn't belong out there, then yeah, I guess we agree.

[TD 21]

Not likely. When you're putting together the end of your bench on a budget, you tend to "leave your bait in the water" a while. The Spurs are rarely, if ever, in as much of a hurry as their fans are.

Even if they were to move on, I'm sure Hayes has other teams offering him the minimum. He's not making any less than that. It's in his interest to wait right up until training camp. He might get a better offer, and no one can make him a lower one.

I'm aware, that's why I said "I don't think they will, but you never know". Personally, I'm not in a hurry, I just feel what Hayes is doing has run it's course.

I know he probably does, but I doubt there's a more appealing situation for Hayes than this. The only quality team's that I can think of that could use him would be the Celtics (supposedly want Hughes though), Nuggets and maybe the Bulls. But the one that would give him the best opportunity to be in the rotation and compete for a championship simultaneously is probably the Spurs.

The issue with Pop being that if he gets his hands on a veteran, instead of playing him in case Anderson or Neal dno't pan out, he'll use him as a starter and will stick with him until at least April even if the guy sucks. Just in time for the "shorter playoff rotation", shorter because the vet sucks and the young ones never saw any PT.

That's why I hope the Spurs don't sign anybody. I'd rather see the Spurs lose while playing prospects, than lose while playing useless vets (e.g. Mr no-offense no-defense no-nothing Bogans).

Despite this potential problem, I'd still rather have the depth and insurance than not. If Jefferson were injured for any length of time, the Spurs would have a gaping hole at SF. Even if he isn't, they'd be asking Anderson and Ginobili to guard SF's far more than they should have to. It's just not ideal.

Neal would probably be impacted by a Hayes signing the most. Either way, Anderson is probably going to be in the rotation, though when it comes time to whittle down to a playoff rotation, he could potentially be impacted then.

[Blackjack]

Is it the belief of most that the Spurs are championship material?

The Spurs aren't done trying to make moves, remains to be seen if there's anything worthwhile to acquire (via free-agency or trade).

Honestly, I was just checking to see how my avatar looked.

[will_spurs]

If prospects didn't belong out there, then yeah, I guess we agree.

Even I belong more to the NBA than Bogans, so you're trying to make a ridiculous point.

[admiralsnackbar]

Even I belong more to the NBA than Bogans, so you're trying to make a ridiculous point.

Or you're making a point belligerently without any basis for doing so.

There are better things to do than get in a fight over opinions on a Saturday.

[Mel_13]

Neal didn't get signed to a 3-year to warm the bench

Neal signed a three-year minimum contract with no guaranteed money beyond the first year. The only thing his contract guarantees him for 2010-11 is that he will be paid 525K for his services, which is just as likely to be practice player as it is to be rotation player.

[TD 21]

Is it the belief of most that the Spurs are championship material?

The Spurs aren't done trying to make moves, remains to be seen if there's anything worthwhile to acquire (via free-agency or trade).

Honestly, I was just checking to see how my avatar looked.

Probably not, at least not the so called experts. But I was speaking specifically about the quality team's I could see being interested in Hayes. Out of the Spurs, Nuggets and Bulls, I think the Spurs offer the best chance to contend for a championship.

If the Celtics lose out to the Bobcats in the Hughes sweepstakes (if there's such thing as a Hughes sweepstakes), then maybe they turn their attention towards Hayes. In that case, you could say they offer a better opportunity to contend than the Spurs, but they also play a tighter rotation, which only increases the chances of Hayes playing less minutes.

Presuming both of those things matter to him (and presuming he'll get the veteran's minimum anywhere he goes), I see the Spurs as the best fit.

[admiralsnackbar]

Neal signed a three-year minimum contract with no guaranteed money beyond the first year. The only thing his contract guarantees him for 2010-11 is that he will be paid 525K for his services, which is just as likely to be practice player as it is to be rotation player.

Touchè -- I wasn't aware.

[benefactor]

Is it the belief of most that the Spurs are championship material?

If it is, then most are delusional.

[admiralsnackbar]

I'm on record as saying we won't get a LOB, but I don't think this team is of such poor quality that they deserve to field a squad that rolls over, either.

[DynastySpurs210]

Were good to go

[MaNu4Tres]

Is it the belief of most that the Spurs are championship material?

The Spurs aren't done trying to make moves, remains to be seen if there's anything worthwhile to acquire (via free-agency or trade).

Honestly, I was just checking to see how my avatar looked.

Nice avatar!!

Find me one...

[ohmwrecker]

If it is, then most are delusional.

I think anyone who believes they know absolutely what is going to happen this season is delusional. Whether that belief is a championship or the lottery, it is just a belief. There is a lot of basketball to be played and anything can happen.

I still believe that, all factors considered, the Spurs are one in a handful of teams that are built to win a championship. It would require an awful lot of good fortune to happen, but I wouldn't put it out of the realm of possibility.

[anti_troll]

If it is, then most are delusional.

see you in '11-'12 then

[mountainballer]

whatever is left in free agency, it doesn't make any difference.
the only move that could make a (still small) difference is a trade and I think the chance is smaller than 1% that this happens at this point.
well, maybe the Melo thing and a firesale in Denver will cause some more movement around the league. (plus some noise from players like Crawford)
Spurs could act with a package around Dice (Anderson as a teaser) plus the non guaranteed contracts. this might bring back an impact player. but again, very unlikely.

[8FOR!3]

I kind of wish we would sign Bostjan Nachbar.

[Bito Corleone]

^^ I wouldn't mind that either.

[benefactor]

see you in '11-'12 then

I watch my team regardless of the outcome. That doesn't stop me from giving my honest opinion.

[DrSteffo]

Having a SG with no NBA experience play backup SF is not what I would consider a good idea.

This. I don't like the idea that we are bound to play small ball for a significant amount of time each game. I didn't like it last season either.

[Blackjack]

If it is, then most are delusional.

Which leads me to believe the Spurs aren't done, at least not trying.

Of the options left in free-agency, only Boki seems to offer a nice potential return. But it's not like he's the missing piece. I actually wouldn't mind them going with the likes of Anderson and Gee rather than sign a random vet. Give me potential upside over known mediocrity and not-good-enough.

Nice avatar!!

Find me one...

I'll see what I can do. I'm extremely talented.

[duhoh]

Exactly, I'll watch as many 76ers games as I can. I'll go to as many home Spurs games as possible and regardless of match ups I will enjoy every game. Understand this, I am a basketball fan first, a 76ers fan second and a Spurs fan third. Being a basketball fan means that I don't dislike any team, I might pull for the Spurs or 76ers to win a certain match up, but in no way would I want a team to do poorly like some Spurs fans feel about the Mavs or Lakers.

It goes on and on. I love the game and my opinions might sound crazy, but whatever I say in one statement can be expressed and explained in several pages of deep thought. Unless of course I am being sarcastic. I personally will not read extremely long posts, so why should I expect any of you to spend your time reading my long posts (this, btw, does not count as a long post. Long posts go on to where you can't see the next 3 posts after yours)?

Anyhow, I have rambled on too much. Good night.

my order is spurs, rox, then the lakeshow. i think it's hilarious to see people get so upset or pass up an opportunity for an actual discussion just based on team affiliation. i suppose seeing a few idiots from a particular fanbase might give a negative bias, but in the end, we're all here to talk.

i hope SA isn't done making changes. i'd estimate about 2 pieces away from having a legitimate shot at getting the 5th.

[The Btown Spur]

Anyone we add will most likely be a roster filler, but there is a chance we can find someone that hasnt been signed yet for cheaper now than if we had tried to sign them earlier. But still doubtful we sign aanyone that has much of an impact imo

[mountainballer]

Spurs should try to deal with the Wolves. aside the fact that not much of what Kahn does makes sense. (which gives us an even better chance for a good deal)
however, Wolves now have 4 natural SF (Brewer, Johnson, Webster, Hayward), plus Beasley, who should as well see minutes at SF. (because it would be a shame not to use his versatility for creating match up problems at SF).
sure, they will play Brewer and Webster at SG (which isn't a good idea, because neither can create).
you can't blame Kahn for aquiring Beasley, this was actually a great deal (for just 2 2nd rounders), but now he would even more need to balance the roster.

[texaskid]

Rodney Carney？ Jarvis Hayes？Bobby Simmons？