I'd rather give time to Gee-Anderson than to sign a vet. Pop will overplay him again even if he sucks. (See Bogans and Finley).
This team isnt gonna win a le next year unless everyone is 100% and is giving 110%. We don't know if that's gonna happen. So what's the point of getting a vet who's just gonna take time away from the development of our young guns?
That's about the best I can hope for from the Spurs at this point. Webster would be a great fit with the Spurs, good enough to move RJ to the bench -- Brewer might as well.
If the Spurs could get either one of those players I'd be ecstatic. But I just don't know how the they could make a deal work for the Wolves. The only real 2 they have is Ellington, so maybe a package around Anderson works for them?
It's Kahn. Who the knows . . .
If our big, final move is going to be to pick up another Keith Bogans, then they can keep it.
Anderson + Jerrells + Gee for Corey Brewer could be and interesting trade for both teams even if I don't see at all Spurs trading Anderson that soon.
Brewer would be a great fit for Spurs. Even if he would put Spurs over the tax, he could be worth the money.
Wolves get a SG, a position where they lacked of depth/quality, locked under a cheap contract for 4 years. Jerrells and Gee are fillers to match salaries but Wolves can get them a look in training camp before deciding to keep or waive them.
Pretty sure the Spurs would strongly consider doing do that, given what they saved this year and Brewer would be seen as a piece for the future as well.
If Tim plays after this season, I don't see him getting re-signed to the type of contract that's become accustomed, and it's still up in the air whether Tony returns. Pretty sure they'll be able to stay under the tax much easier than they have in recent years moving forward, so Brewer's $4,966,356 QO next year wouldn't seem to preclude them from making the move.
But I agree. I don't believe they're looking to move Anderson -- and I don't see much else they'd have to offer Minnesota for Webster or Brewer.
I'm just glad we re-added Ferry to our team's head honchos. He was great before he left, and did a fair amount of wheeling and dealing in Cleveland (most of which was pretty decent in my opinion), so hopefully the saying of "having two heads is better than one" helps us net a really good player through trades. A long small forward is something we've needed desperately, somebody who can slide from the 3 to the 4 and visa versa.
I know you're obsessed with Webster but I wouldn't get the logic for Minny to trade the 16th pick for Webster and then trade Webster a couple of months later for the 20th pick (James Anderson).
If Wolves moves a SF, Brewer should the one traded (providing Kahn uses some kind of logic).
When Corey Brewer was drafted, he was the player I felt would become the next great perimeter defender. That hasn't really happened, but there is potential there. He would need to focus on it and I'm not sure how much he is willing to commit to defense. He is very adept at steals but there is so much more to defending than that.
I wouldn't mind if the Spurs brought in Joe Alexander for a workout... He has talent and youth and if we sign him for the Min how much can it hurt us compared to Gee and Jerrells? Gee and Jerrells aren't going to be difference makers, at least Alexander has the physical ability to at least suit up instead of being inactive most games.
I was also thinking Brewer. Webster they obviously liked when they traded Gomes and the #16 pick for him. (might turn out a pretty good deal for them)
I'm sure they are interested in Anderson. Ellington doesn't even look like NBA material and even if he improves in his 2nd season, a player who goes to the line about once a month will always be limited in any role.
btw. I really like Lazar Hayward, very smart and likeable guy and quite tough as well. (yes, undersized, but with a freakish 7'1'' wingspan). this doesn't mean I see Hayward as a target. just mention it.
(with the Wolves he will spend most time in the D-league, because they don't have any minutes available).
Anderson for Brewer would definitely be something Spurs need to consider, as Brewer brings some NBA experience and would bring much needed size and defense for the perimeter.
I would cry tears of joy if the Spurs got Brewer. He continues to work on his 3PT shot, has great athleticism and can be a very good defender.
He also fits the Spurs mold of a "character" person.
I'm pretty sure that SAS would want a pick or something on top. Corey is currently not guaranteed to hang on (in the NBA) beyond his rookie contract. At that point, a fresh new 1st round prospect (Anderson) and cap space (Jerrels and Gee) would be overpaying.
Yeah, I like Brewer but not enough to give up James Anderson for him.
Two options:
1. The spurs sign another garbage player.
2. We resign tony and trade hill.
Brewer put 13ppg in 30 mpg, is young and has tools to be a great defender. Even if he played for one of the worst team in the league, it's a big exaggeration to say that he could be out of the NBA if he hadn't a guaranteed contract
IMO, asking for an additional first round pick would be too much. Maybe Spurs could get Bjelica whose they were said to be high on.
If the Spurs could get their hands on Brewer, they would finally, and I mean finally have a true, young & athletic 3 prospect.
I would be cool with Brewer, and I would definitely make that trade..he only shot 35% from 3s as a spot-up shooter, so he would still need to work on that, but it's better than Jefferson shoots from there..
As others have said, he has the tools to be a great defender, even though he struggles as a team defender right now..he was ranked as one of the better 1 on 1 defenders in the NBA last year, so it would obviously be an asset, and I'm sure his team D would improve by playing in a strict system like this, instead of Minnesota's..
Webster's simply one of the best players out there to fulfill the needs of a small forward in the Spurs' system. He brings both the 2-way ability and physical tools.
Having said that, I'm fully aware that the Spurs don't really have the pieces to get him from Minnesota in a direct trade. It's not an obsession as much as knowing what the Spurs need and how well he'd fit.
But if the Spurs could get Brewer?
Like I said before, I'd be ecstatic with either acquisition. Brewer's one of the other guys I've been "obsessed" with and a player I believe to be one of the 4-6 best options the Spurs could possibly bring in -- just from the ability to fill the need/role at the small forward position, not taking into account who's realistic or attainable.
They can't get Bjelica he just signed a contract with Caja Laboral this summer which has NBA opt out till 2012.
Spurs will not trade Parker he is way too valuable AND Pop won't split up the TD, MJ, Parker trio!
I'd be down for Brewer, but not for Anderson just yet.
Let's see what the kid has by February then assess the matter.
When I said getting Bjelica, it's obviously getting the draft rights to him (Minny has drafted him with the 35th pick).
What the Spurs really need is to pull a rabbit out of the hat and find the next Stephen Jackson or Kelenna Azubuike (I know 'Buike is a G, but it's the same idea.) Those guys were basically cast-offs, before they made the most of an opportunity. You know there are others who fell through the cracks and ended their careers without ever finding the right situation.
The Spurs have a reputation for being shrewd in scouting and evaluating talent. Well if they ever needed it, the time is now.
Rather than picking up a marginal vet, I would kind of like to see them give a young, hungry guy a serious chance to step up. You can't be surprised if you never take a chance, and put that reputation on the line.
If nobody steps up and excels, look for a mid-season trade and push hard to give Tim one more ring.
Allright well elaborate next time. I though you meant getting him for this year. But yeah he's a great prospect 6'10 plays like a guard reminds of Nowitzki or Gallanari.
I'd give up Blair AND Hill (and an expiring like Dyess) if we can get Melo in return. Yes, it depletes the youth on the team, but it loads us up for one last run with Tim. If Parker is involved in the trade, you package Blair with him and a guy like Dyess to make the numbers work.
I like our chances with Parker, Manu, Melo, Duncan, Splitter
or even
Hill, Manu, Melo, Duncan, Splitter is an upgrade over the current roster
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