kobe fans

[HarlemHeat37]

You should support Kobe, he's the best player on your team, it's your right..I don't know why you have to defend that he's a snitch though, it's a fact..just accept it, say it was a move, and go back to cheering for him..

I don't know why Koolaidman is writing essays trying to justify what Kobe did, wasting his time with his ridiculous arguments..

[Koolaid_Man]

Again, how does that change the fact that he actually mentioned Shaq's name and told them what he allegedly does?..the reasoning is irrelevant here(even though your reasoning is weak, as expected), he still did it..

He clearly tried to bring others down with him, which you clearly just admitted..

Also, stop talking like you know about these situations..you have a ing inheritance..

inheritance has nothing to do with every real life situations...chics think they can get at me all the time and get hopelessly disappointed. But white chics usually don't trip too much not as much as "some" of the sistas trying to game Kool... I just want to party as much as I can in my youth...I understand not everyone can and people suffer. I donate at least 1200.00 a year to local charities, gave to Haiti crisis and even donated to Pakistan flood relief... and give some of my time. So what have you done?

and my pops won't give me all the money any ways till I'm 36. By then he says I will have all the play out of my system, would have experienced at least 1 serious failed relationship, and will know how to manage money. He "encourages" me to work at times as a learning, and to spend at least 1 week a year living with my grandparents gaining wisdom from their years. I'm ok with it all because I'm not lazy...and it enables me to live the life I want to live. But I do wonder how much my grandpa is worth...I can tell he's loaded. I'm sure I'm in his will...I bring him extra strong coffee just to make sure.

[JamStone]

Kobe seems like a prick of a person and him snitching on Shaq was a move. That has nothing to do with anyone being a fan of Kobe, the player. I can appreciate what Kobe does on the basketball court and still think he's a for how he ratted Shaq out to the cops. That's precisely how I feel. I've been a fan of crazy ass drag queen Dennis Rodman before. Being disgusted with Michael Jackson's fancy for little boys doesn't mean I can't listen to his music.

Some of you are too obsessed with players and can't separate players and their personal lives from the game. Someone being a Kobe fan doesn't mean they have to like Kobe the person or defend everything he's done in his life, or even have to defend everything he's done on the court. To me, fandom doesn't have to be "fanatic."

[Nathan89]

I've met people with mentality like yours countless times in my life.

They give lots of props to mediocrity (Mugsey Bogues, please!) but refuse to acknowledge greatness.

Why? I don't know. Maybe they spend too much time lamenting at their own upbringing.

O, why couldn't I have hops like Lebron James?
O, why couldn't I grow as tall as Kareem?
O, why couldn't I be born as the son of a ball player?

What do they say about success again? 90% athleticism and 10% parenting?

This-is-the-original-statement-I-was-responding-to.--SpaceBar-is-broke.

He's living proof that work ethic trumps everything else in life.

Kobe-by-no-means-is-living-proof-that-work-ethic-trumps-all.--That-is-why-I-brought-up-Mugsey.--He-is-more-of-an-example-of-what-work-ethic-can-do-for-someone.--Kobe-is-6'7,athletic,and-the-son-of-a-former-nba-player.--Mugsey-was-5'3/136lbs-and-played-15yrs-in-the-nba.--Mugsey-is-living-proof-that-work-ethic-trumps-alot-but-work-ethic-didnt-have-much-to-trump-in-kobes-situation.--giving-props-to-mugsey-is-giving-props-to-greatness.

My-keyboard-is-really-jacked-up.--Stupid-drink.

[Cane]

Kobe seems like a prick of a person and him snitching on Shaq was a move. That has nothing to do with anyone being a fan of Kobe, the player. I can appreciate what Kobe does on the basketball court and still think he's a for how he ratted Shaq out to the cops. That's precisely how I feel. I've been a fan of crazy ass drag queen Dennis Rodman before. Being disgusted with Michael Jackson's fancy for little boys doesn't mean I can't listen to his music.

Some of you are too obsessed with players and can't separate players and their personal lives from the game. Someone being a Kobe fan doesn't mean they have to like Kobe the person or defend everything he's done in his life, or even have to defend everything he's done on the court. To me, fandom doesn't have to be "fanatic."

What a player does both on and off the court affects being a fan for many people. Doesn't mean one can't respect their game but to be a fan is another thing. Fan is short for fanatic but I see what you mean.

[21_Blessings]

Kobe did Shaunie a favor. Props to him.

[Giuseppe]

Kobe did Shaunie a favor. Props to him.

And she vamooses just after the $20 million a year contracts come to an abrupt end. Now he's got the entire vet's minimum all to hisself....minus child support and alimony, and Uncle Sam with his ass scratcher out there firstly.

tee, hee.

[Koolaid_Man]

And she vamooses just after the $20 million a year contracts come to an abrupt end. Now he's got the entire vet's minimum all to hisself....minus child support and alimony, and Uncle Sam with his ass scratcher out there firstly.

tee, hee.

tee hee for sure...this is freaking hilarious...Shaq wouldn't play or stay in shape for 20-25 mil a year what makes these idiots think he'll play for 1 and some loose change... now I do suspect he'll be hype for the Heat game since he did buy Lebron a 500k car...I'm sure he wants his money back...

[Quit Hatin']

link or it didnt happen gots.


Quit Hatin'

[Giuseppe]

tee hee for sure...this is freaking hilarious...Shaq wouldn't play or stay in shape for 20-25 mil a year what makes these idiots think he'll play for 1 and some loose change... now I do suspect he'll be hype for the Heat game since he did buy Lebron a 500k car...I'm sure he wants his money back...

It's so it's almost tragic, Kool.

I get upside down & misty eyed when I lose $20 bettin' black or red in Vegas.

[balli]

Kobe didn't snitch. Some piece of Eagle County detective did.

[cobbler]

What does any of this have to do with the fact that he's a proven snitch?..

He told on Shaq, even though telling on Shaq wouldn't help his case in any way from a judicial standpoint..so he basically told on Shaq so that he could bring somebody else down for his own mistakes, which is absolutely ing pathetic..it's sad that everybody now ignores all the evil Kobe has committed, simply because he won les after the collusion..

Meanwhile, they've chosen Lebron as a target, because he chose to leave a team through Free Agency..compare that to everything Kobe has done..

Lebron is a target because he a pathetic that has no balls and feels everyone owes him. And speaking of his balls, maybe you should stop gargling them and give em back.

I love how you take an incident where Kobe was in deep and scared, and talking to the cops not thinking it would be anything more than a off the cuff comment that he should have done what shaq did and avoided any post fling issues by just paying them up front, and make it like he was trying to bring Shaq down. It's simply the truth. Still, a stupid move because the cops do ent everything and it was going to come out.

And then you support a prima donna that:


No one could stand James as a 19-year-old in the 2004 Athens Olympics, nor the 2006 World Championships. Officials feared James could become the instigator of everything they wanted to rid themselves for the ’08 Olympics. For as gifted as James was, Krzyzewski and Colangelo subscribed to a belief that with Kobe Bryant(notes) joining the national team in 2007, they could win a gold medal in ’08 with or without LeBron James.Behind the scenes, officials had taken to calling James’ inner circle, “The Enablers.” No one ever told him to grow up. No one ever challenged him. And yet, James was still a powerful pull for his teammates, and everyone had to agree they could no longer let his bossy and belittling act go unchecked. These weren’t the Cleveland Cavaliers, and Team USA wasn’t beholden to him.

After the NBA witnessed the behavior of James and his business manager Maverick Carter during the 2007 All-Star Weekend, the commissioner’s office sent word to USA Basketball the league wouldn’t force James on them for the Olympics. Before Team USA gathered for the 2007 Tournament of the Americas in Las Vegas, an unmistakable message had been delivered to James through Nike: Unless you change, we’re serious about leaving you home.

“Legacies were on the line,” one league official said, “and they weren’t going to let LeBron [expletive] it up for everyone in China.”

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Within an hour of the Cavaliers’ season ending in Boston, James’ inner circle, including power broker William Wesley, agent Leon Rose and business manager Maverick Carter, stood outside the visiting locker room grumbling about coach Mike Brown.


Former Cavs GM Danny Ferry (center) never wanted to fire coach Mike Brown, but owner Dan Gilbert (left) knew LeBron James and his business manager Maverick Carter (right) wanted Brown out as far back as 2009.

James had wanted Brown gone a year earlier after the Cavs lost in the Eastern Conference finals to the Orlando Magic – despite Brown guiding Cleveland to 66 victories while winning the league’s Coach of the Year award. Ferry debated Gilbert to keep Brown. He won out, but Ferry knew it would be tough to make that case again in 2010. Every decision the Cavaliers made had to be run past James. He didn’t always get to decide, but he had to be consulted.

This time, Gilbert believed he had to fire Brown to have a chance of re-signing James. When he was fired, Brown purposely left his star’s name out of a public statement of thanks. He knew James had led the movement for his dismissal for more than two years and Brown no longer needed to pretend that he liked, or respected James.

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For James, the problem with back-to-back presentations was his short attention span. Cavaliers coaches had always tried to keep film sessions short because James would drift away and lose interest.

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Back in Akron, James still wanted to go through his live hourlong television show on July 8 to announce his decision. This had been Maverick Carter’s big idea, his production, and still people around him worried about the fallout in Cleveland. Several friends told James this was a bad idea to do to his hometown, that leaving the Cavaliers live on national television would make this a public-relations disaster for him.

James didn’t seem to agree, didn’t think it made a difference. Mad was mad, he thought. He would take a beating, but it would subside and people would love him again in Cleveland.
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Better than anyone, they knew LeBron James could sometimes be so unaware of the world outside his own needs, his own yes men. Nearly two years later, the whispers in the back of the bus rolling through Beijing had become the loudest statement in free-agency history


http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...eeagency071610


Can you say hypocrite?

[LkrFan]

How many did the Lakers shoot in the fourth quarter of game 7 against Boston? I forget....

Did Boston NOT foul? We went inside to the PF beast (aka Pau Gasol) and he delivered over KG, Sheed, and Porkins if he would have played. Boston had to foul and they did. The refs called it.

Don't compare the Lakers to the front-running cHeat. We don't have someone that will put their head down, go to the hole and expect to be bailed out by the refs (does that describe the NBA manufactured "superstar" that is in your avatar? ).

BTW, were you a cHeat fan before LeHype signed on?

[scanry]

tee hee for sure...this is freaking hilarious...Shaq wouldn't play or stay in shape for 20-25 mil a year what makes these idiots think he'll play for 1 and some loose change... now I do suspect he'll be hype for the Heat game since he did buy Lebron a 500k car...I'm sure he wants his money back...

Now that's got to hurt. Anyhow, how does one write off a gift? Can Shaq write that off as a family gift? I hope Shaq has enough money in the bank, cause he might just go bankrupt!!!

Then again his NBA earnings has him at $290 mil. Adding $300 mil from sponsors & commercials will take his total earnings to $600 mil.

Just hope Shaunie doesn't hurt shaq's deep pockets!!

[Giuseppe]

Kobe didn't snitch. Some piece of Eagle County detective did.

The goods.

[HarlemHeat37]

Lebron is a target because he a pathetic that has no balls and feels everyone owes him. And speaking of his balls, maybe you should stop gargling them and give em back.

Classy..

I love how you take an incident where Kobe was in deep and scared, and talking to the cops not thinking it would be anything more than a off the cuff comment that he should have done what shaq did and avoided any post fling issues by just paying them up front, and make it like he was trying to bring Shaq down. It's simply the truth. Still, a stupid move because the cops do ent everything and it was going to come out.

You learn not to "tattle-tale" on people when you're 5 years old..being scared doesn't give you the right to snitch somebody out for no reason at all, let alone a ing teammate..

Also, maybe if he didn't rape somebody, he wouldn't have been in that kind of trouble..

No one could stand James as a 19-year-old in the 2004 Athens Olympics, nor the 2006 World Championships. Officials feared James could become the instigator of everything they wanted to rid themselves for the ’08 Olympics. For as gifted as James was, Krzyzewski and Colangelo subscribed to a belief that with Kobe Bryant(notes) joining the national team in 2007, they could win a gold medal in ’08 with or without LeBron James.Behind the scenes, officials had taken to calling James’ inner circle, “The Enablers.” No one ever told him to grow up. No one ever challenged him. And yet, James was still a powerful pull for his teammates, and everyone had to agree they could no longer let his bossy and belittling act go unchecked. These weren’t the Cleveland Cavaliers, and Team USA wasn’t beholden to him.

After the NBA witnessed the behavior of James and his business manager Maverick Carter during the 2007 All-Star Weekend, the commissioner’s office sent word to USA Basketball the league wouldn’t force James on them for the Olympics. Before Team USA gathered for the 2007 Tournament of the Americas in Las Vegas, an unmistakable message had been delivered to James through Nike: Unless you change, we’re serious about leaving you home.

“Legacies were on the line,” one league official said, “and they weren’t going to let LeBron [expletive] it up for everyone in China.”

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Within an hour of the Cavaliers’ season ending in Boston, James’ inner circle, including power broker William Wesley, agent Leon Rose and business manager Maverick Carter, stood outside the visiting locker room grumbling about coach Mike Brown.


Former Cavs GM Danny Ferry (center) never wanted to fire coach Mike Brown, but owner Dan Gilbert (left) knew LeBron James and his business manager Maverick Carter (right) wanted Brown out as far back as 2009.

James had wanted Brown gone a year earlier after the Cavs lost in the Eastern Conference finals to the Orlando Magic – despite Brown guiding Cleveland to 66 victories while winning the league’s Coach of the Year award. Ferry debated Gilbert to keep Brown. He won out, but Ferry knew it would be tough to make that case again in 2010. Every decision the Cavaliers made had to be run past James. He didn’t always get to decide, but he had to be consulted.

This time, Gilbert believed he had to fire Brown to have a chance of re-signing James. When he was fired, Brown purposely left his star’s name out of a public statement of thanks. He knew James had led the movement for his dismissal for more than two years and Brown no longer needed to pretend that he liked, or respected James.

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For James, the problem with back-to-back presentations was his short attention span. Cavaliers coaches had always tried to keep film sessions short because James would drift away and lose interest.

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Back in Akron, James still wanted to go through his live hourlong television show on July 8 to announce his decision. This had been Maverick Carter’s big idea, his production, and still people around him worried about the fallout in Cleveland. Several friends told James this was a bad idea to do to his hometown, that leaving the Cavaliers live on national television would make this a public-relations disaster for him.

James didn’t seem to agree, didn’t think it made a difference. Mad was mad, he thought. He would take a beating, but it would subside and people would love him again in Cleveland.
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Better than anyone, they knew LeBron James could sometimes be so unaware of the world outside his own needs, his own yes men. Nearly two years later, the whispers in the back of the bus rolling through Beijing had become the loudest statement in free-agency history


http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...eeagency071610


Can you say hypocrite?

I don't get it?..

So you're comparing being a primadonna, which most athletes are, to snitching on a teammate for no reason in a criminal case?..nice argument, Gobby..you're also using reports that have never been proven to be correct, and they come from sources through the shady media..

I've never called out Michael Jordan for being a primadonna.. , I've never even called out Kobe for being one..all these guys have massive egos..even Lebron has a big ego, despite all his philanthropy and work with children..I don't see how it's even comparable to snitching on a teammate in a criminal case, not to mention publicly ting on a teammate, which Kobe did with Bynum..

Lebron has never had any off-court incidents or problems with any teammates..he has always been a class act..sorry, Gob..

[cobbler]

Classy...

No really its not... the gargling you do is anything but classy.

You learn not to "tattle-tale" on people when you're 5 years old..being scared doesn't give you the right to snitch somebody out for no reason at all, let alone a ing teammate....

Teammate? You mean the guy who has tossed more teamates and organizations under the buss than any other player alive today? Laughable. To "snitch" is to inform on someone to get them in trouble. He made an extremely stupid comment that in no way was intended to get Shaq in trouble with the law. You are stretching. Stupid comment and should have been left unsaid no dooubt, but your insinuation that he did it to get to Shaq is unfounded. Do you have a link that shows his intent?

Also, maybe if he didn't rape somebody, he wouldn't have been in that kind of trouble....

And here we go again. You have stated numerous times that he raped that in Colorado as if its a fact. It's simply your opinion and nothing more. You call Kobe out for telling the truth about Shaq and yet you have no problem spreading your negative opinions as fact. Apparenty you didnt learn that in your 5 year old morals and ethics workshop. You must have stopped after you got your "tattletale" medal.

I don't get it?....

You don't get a lot.

So you're comparing being a primadonna, which most athletes are, to snitching on a teammate for no reason in a criminal case?..nice argument, Gobby..you're also using reports that have never been proven to be correct, and they come from sources through the shady media....

I was there in 2004. I saw it first hand. And I am not comparing any particuar incident. I am comparing the persons and their reputation amoung thier peers.

I've never called out Michael Jordan for being a primadonna.. , I've never even called out Kobe for being one..all these guys have massive egos..even Lebron has a big ego, despite all his philanthropy and work with children..I don't see how it's even comparable to snitching on a teammate in a criminal case, not to mention publicly ting on a teammate, which Kobe did with Bynum..

So Kobe get's secretly recorded saying they should ship Bynum out becuse he wanted to play with hid buddy Jason and felt it would be best for the team and you have issues with that? Yet on the other hand you slobber all over a guy who quit on his team, his city, and his fans to go play with his buddies? Not to mention getting the coach who catered to his every whim fired?

Like I said, you dont get a lot. You really are the king of all hypocrites!! TBH..

[TinTin]

Gary Neal raped a drunk, defenseless girl with the help of his friend while she was puking in a bathroom sink. Of all the free, easy pussy at college parties, this San Antonio Spur needed to go rape one that was sloppy drunk. No diss, just real talk, how do yall support a rapist?

I suppose you can show me to the abundance of spurs fans who are chanting gary neal's name right now. If so, it wouldn't be any different than lakers circle jerking over caracter

[HarlemHeat37]

Teammate? You mean the guy who has tossed more teamates and organizations under the buss than any other player alive today? Laughable. To "snitch" is to inform on someone to get them in trouble. He made an extremely stupid comment that in no way was intended to get Shaq in trouble with the law. You are stretching. Stupid comment and should have been left unsaid no dooubt, but your insinuation that he did it to get to Shaq is unfounded. Do you have a link that shows his intent?

Um..randomly saying, "I should have done what Shaq does" for absolutely no reason clearly tells you all you need to know..just accept that he did it and move on, there's no argument here..

You don't get a lot.

I get medals..

I was there in 2004. I saw it first hand. And I am not comparing any particuar incident. I am comparing the persons and their reputation amoung thier peers.

I don't believe that you were there, show me some proof, please..you know me, I need my facts for arguments..

So Kobe get's secretly recorded saying they should ship Bynum out becuse he wanted to play with hid buddy Jason and felt it would be best for the team and you have issues with that? Yet on the other hand you slobber all over a guy who quit on his team, his city, and his fans to go play with his buddies? Not to mention getting the coach who catered to his every whim fired?

Secretly?..he was on camera saying it, he was staring right at the camera..that must have been some amazing espionage work by those random guys..

You're really making light of that situation, btw..Kobe demanded that Bynum was traded, it was caught on tape, and he used explicit words.."Andrew Bynum?! what the ?!"..what a pathetic thing to say about a young player like Bynum, a guy that was new to the league and just trying to make it..

Lebron didn't quit on a city and fans..if you're talking about game 5, he had more FTA in that game than his overall playoff average, however, you're en led to your opinion..if you're talking about his Free Agency decision, then he couldn't have possibly quit, he didn't have a team at the time of The Donation..

There's no reason to believe Lebron was the reason Mike Brown was fired..everybody predicted it would happen after the Cavs were eliminated, his firing was being called for a while prior to these rumors..

[cobbler]

Um..randomly saying, "I should have done what Shaq does" for absolutely no reason clearly tells you all you need to know..just accept that he did it and move on, there's no argument here..

I accepted it long ago. I also said it was a stupid comment. You are the one constantly bringing it up. You are the one OBSESSED. People in glass houses...

I get medals..

I don't believe that you were there, show me some proof, please..you know me, I need my facts for arguments..

I don't need to show any proof. I was there. I have been involved with USA basketball for over 20 years. You know... with that game I played that "wasn't real basketball" according to you.

Secretly?..he was on camera saying it, he was staring right at the camera..that must have been some amazing espionage work by those random guys..

You have proof that he knew he was being filmed? You have proof that shows it wasnt a little cellphone camera and that he wasn't being decieved? It was not a public announcement and he NEVER demanded that Bynum be traded. Your so big on proof... show me!

You're really making light of that situation, btw..Kobe demanded that Bynum was traded, it was caught on tape, and he used explicit words.."Andrew Bynum?! what the ?!"..what a pathetic thing to say about a young player like Bynum, a guy that was new to the league and just trying to make it..

Yeah... I can't imagine any veterans dissing rookies. Again, he NEVER demanded Bynum be traded.

Lebron didn't quit on a city and fans..if you're talking about game 5, he had more FTA in that game than his overall playoff average, however, you're en led to your opinion..if you're talking about his Free Agency decision, then he couldn't have possibly quit, he didn't have a team at the time of The Donation..

He promised to bring a championship to Cleveland. He left before doing so. He quit. Plain and simple. And he did so in a way that has the majority of fans across the nation despising him.

There's no reason to believe Lebron was the reason Mike Brown was fired..everybody predicted it would happen after the Cavs were eliminated, his firing was being called for a while prior to these rumors..

Yes it was... and per the rumors and Gilberts anf Ferrys comments it was Lebrons camp doing the pushing. Now are you going to tell me that his camp was doing so without his insistence? Laughable...

[chubster]

Kobe-by-no-means-is-living-proof-that-work-ethic-trumps-all.--That-is-why-I-brought-up-Mugsey.--He-is-more-of-an-example-of-what-work-ethic-can-do-for-someone.--Kobe-is-6'7,athletic,and-the-son-of-a-former-nba-player.--Mugsey-was-5'3/136lbs-and-played-15yrs-in-the-nba.--Mugsey-is-living-proof-that-work-ethic-trumps-alot-but-work-ethic-didnt-have-much-to-trump-in-kobes-situation.--giving-props-to-mugsey-is-giving-props-to-greatness.

My-keyboard-is-really-jacked-up.--Stupid-drink.

Like I said, people like you have no problem propping up Mugsey freaking Bogues because he's a non-threat to either your agenda or your personal bias. Long live mediocrity, I guess.

After what Gary Payton said about Kobe's work ethic, I suppose I should take your word when you say that it's nothing special because he's 6-6, athletic and a son of a ball player? Not a chance, buddy.

Since reverse logic has worked so well for idiots like you let's talk about Tim Duncan's work ethic.
Does he have an amazing work ethic for being the most fundamentally sound big man (2nd only to Olajuwon) or is it something that we can dismiss because he's been blessed with a 7 feet body and tremendous wing span?

Mugsey Bogues's work ethic > Tim Duncan's and Kobe Bryant's work ethic.

Hah! The length you haters will go just to minimize Kobe Bryant's accomplishment never cease to astonish me.

[Ace]

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Did Boston NOT foul? We went inside to the PF beast (aka Pau Gasol) and he delivered over KG, Sheed, and Porkins if he would have played. Boston had to foul and they did. The refs called it.

Don't compare the Lakers to the front-running cHeat. We don't have someone that will put their head down, go to the hole and expect to be bailed out by the refs (does that describe the NBA manufactured "superstar" that is in your avatar? ).

BTW, were you a cHeat fan before LeHype signed on?

Stop reading after pf beast. Now I know your a butthurt Mav troll.

[Daddy_Of_All_Trolls]

I get medals..

Gee, we didn't know. Tell us again! Oh, wait, that's all you do, tell us you have a medal. We know. You probably deserved it. Damn you're insecure. That medal won't bail you out of the mess you've made for yourself riding LeBron's jock.

You get Medals. Kobe gets rings. I know that hurts. 5 > 0 !

[TheMACHINE]

lol insecure laker haters....all good cuz they just watch us rang 2 in a row. buahahah must suck to be them.

[cobbler]

You should support Kobe, he's the best player on your team, it's your right..

I missed this little jem...

And yet all we heard from you all last year is how Pau was the the best player on the team.

So you can now add inconsistent to your other traits that include racist, liar, and obsessed with everything Lakers and Kobe. TBH