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    Didn't Miles have microfracture knee surgery? Isn't that the same type of injury that made everybody avoid T-Mac like a plague?

    So you mean to say that the Spurs would rather have Darius Miles than Tracy McGrady?
    Because I'm sure they coulda given McGrady a shot before he signed with Detroit for 1.3mil.

    ...whoa that's kinda twisted......
    I was thinking the same thing as this when I first read this thread.

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    The spurs are working him out....so if he passes the workout, I don't see why not.. He can play.

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    t-mac went for detroit, seeing how the pistons' trainer has had success with the likes of dice, and when ben wallace returned to a lesser extent. from a pure basketball standpoint, it didn't make any sense for him to go to a team that is stuffed with wing players.

    his skillset would rape for most 2nd units in the league, as he is able to be a solid scorer at the 2/3, and play point-forward/guard.

    i don't think t-mac was ONLY avoided for the microfractures. probably the ability to run his mouth at the wrong times, he does bring a lot of baggage. couple that with a poor work ethic, and bam. the houston exodus left a bad taste in many peoples' mouths, including mine as a t-mac fan.

    k-mart had the surgery done to BOTH knees, and i definitely wouldn't object to his "enforcer" type presence in the paint next to TD. if miles comes in with something to prove like k-mart, then he'll be fine.

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    maybe for some reason tmac just didn't want to play for the spurs it seems like now

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    he got kids to feed

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    I was thinking the same thing as this when I first read this thread.
    See your point, but i think it has to do with how he said he is not going to play while with Rockets. Remember, when he got back last year Rockets didn't even care. So, it has to be the off the court issues kept Spurs from trying out Tmac

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    I doubt Darius Miles demanded to be a starter. McGrady basically did.

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    Im down with Miles for min...low risk

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    Oddly enough, I use to be a fan of Darius Miles. I havent seen him play in a while and I dont know how much he has left so I dont know if I would want him here.

    If it comes down to Williams or Miles, I want Williams.

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    Glad someone pointed this out. Amare had microfracture surgery but why give Miles a shot and not McGrady. Doesn't male sense.
    I don't think the knee was what made the Spurs and other teams avoid TMac. TMac is not clutch, and is playoff krytonite. He also just got to the fringes of the NBA, a place where Miles has been for years, and it's an adjustment to go from star to roleplayer, a BIG adjustment.

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    I don't think the knee was what made the Spurs and other teams avoid TMac. TMac is not clutch, and is playoff krytonite. He also just got to the fringes of the NBA, a place where Miles has been for years, and it's an adjustment to go from star to roleplayer, a BIG adjustment.
    TMac has been a victim of ty teams in the playoffs. His playoff performances have been outstanding.

    Of course, now he is so washed up only the Pistons want him for their all SG lineup.

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    I thought Grant Hill was done when he signed with the Suns. I remember laughing about what a stupid move it was, since he was obviously broken down and couldn't get through a whole season healthy. Oops.

    But Hill was a great player and a great teammate before his injuries. All he had to overcome was his physical problems. Darius Miles never lived up to his potential as a player, and he was always a problem child because of his at ude.

    He supposedly had a brand new at ude when he worked out for the Celtics. But while he was trying to make a comeback, he got busted for a substance abuse violation. To me, a guy who is desperately trying to make a comeback, and can't figure out that he has to be on his best behavior? Probably isn't going to stick here.

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    Kid is old, but he's relatively young in playing time terms so why not?

    Plus, the Spurs have always needed a guy who does the 'bull horns' thing after he hits a three:



    Pop, searching for your 15th man? No question, Darius Miles.


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    im actually pumped about this.......
    and thats pretty sad.. it just shows the mediocrity ive been getting used to w bogans, mason, bonner, and finley.

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    Lots of misinformation about T-Mac out there. Some criticize him for not carrying the Rockets to a NBA le, but he couldn't do it by himself when Yao was out. I don't think he was a choker at all, just having to play 1 on 5 since he was on a bad team at the time.

    By all accounts here in Houston he worked his ass off to rehab his injury and then the Rockets wouldn't let him on the floor because they didn't want to play him and pay him since they knew they weren't going anywhere with Yao done for the year and they were getting compensated by insurance. That created some bad feelings since it was his last year on the contract.

    All that being said, he'd definitely want to start and that probably wasn't in the cards if he became a Spur.

    All of the above doesn't mean I'm down with bringing Miles onboard. He could have behavior issues and lingering injury issues. If he still has anything like the old Miles left in his body, he could be a solid backup. Pop will let him know real quick that its his last chance at playing for a contender.

    Pop will have to sort all that out, but FO wouldn't have brought him in for a workout unless they have at least some interest.

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    If the Spurs avoid guys who have had microfracture surgery, then make sure nobody tells them about Antonio McDyess.

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    If the Spurs avoid guys who have had microfracture surgery, then make sure nobody tells them about Antonio McDyess.
    Did he have a "double"? I'd say that quarters your chances of a complete recovery.

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    For those complaining, I don't see a reason for it. The Spurs are simply working out a guy that wants to get back in the league. He made it back recently with the Grizzlies, and didn't look half bad when he was with them. He's been a knucklehead, but if there's one coach who could turn him around, its Pop.

    If he fails, oh well. If he does good, he could be a cheap bench guy, or even just a training camp body with NBA experience. Low risk situation. Personally, I'm kinda excited. If he can still play, I'm all for it.

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    FYI
    Darius Miles is 6-9 and is 28 years old. He turns 29 in October.
    Jawad Williams is 6-9 and is 27 years old. He turns 28 in Feb.

    Age and size is not that big of difference, so it really comes down to who can play better.

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    FYI
    Darius Miles is 6-9 and is 28 years old. He turns 29 in October.
    Jawad Williams is 6-9 and is 27 years old. He turns 28 in Feb.

    Age and size is not that big of difference, so it really comes down to who can play better.
    Without being a knucklehead.

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    TMac and Miles situations aren't comparable.

    TMac was asking for a guaranteed contract while Miles is auditioning for a training camp contract.

    If Miles do well in workout, Spurs will triple check his knees. If his knees are in good enough shape, they could sign him to a non-guaranteed contract. After that they will have one month of training camp to judge him before spending some money on him. If they keep him after the trainign camp, Spurs will have 2 additional months before his contract became guaranteed.

    Giving a shot to Miles is a way smaller commitment than giving a shot to TMac.

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    Without being a knucklehead.
    Kucklehead or not I still want the better player. Miles is older now and his last few episodes ended because of younger players being brought along not because he was still nuts like he was when he played in Cleveland.

    I would be happy with Williams, Miles and Gee in camp and letting the compe ion decide who becomes the back up small forward. Right now, I am just happy we are talking about guys 6-9 as backup small forwards.

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    Lots of misinformation about T-Mac out there. Some criticize him for not carrying the Rockets to a NBA le, but he couldn't do it by himself when Yao was out. I don't think he was a choker at all, just having to play 1 on 5 since he was on a bad team at the time.
    he couldn't take the rockets out of the first round

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    Kucklehead or not I still want the better player. Miles is older now and his last few episodes ended because of younger players being brought along not because he was still nuts like he was when he played in Cleveland.

    I would be happy with Williams, Miles and Gee in camp and letting the compe ion decide who becomes the back up small forward. Right now, I am just happy we are talking about guys 6-9 as backup small forwards.
    Agreed on all points... I was just being a dumbass. I'd even add that the likely terms of a contract -- regardless of who signs -- will discourage any bad behavior as his position on the roster would already be too precarious to jeopardize by being a clown.

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    No one ever said the Spurs avoided players because of microfracture surgery.
    At least one person implied exactly that, citing it as a reason the Spurs passed on Tracy McGrady. I was simply pointing out one of the many flaws in that reasoning.

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