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    I don't think anyone could make a name for himself as a specialist or whatever backing up the best player in the NBA as a rookie. It takes time to build up a reputation or by getting a starting role.

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    I don't put a player like Jawad Williams above Alonzo Gee to be Spurs' backup SF.
    Agree. Gee definitely more talented. Williams may be 2" taller, but don't know how that translated to effectiveness.

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    I don't think anyone could make a name for himself as a specialist or whatever backing up the best player in the NBA as a rookie. It takes time to build up a reputation or by getting a starting role.
    Go read some Cavs fan forum and you will see what they all say about his defense.

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    Go read some Cavs fan forum and you will see what they all say about his defense.
    Do they have any fans left? Does anyone talk about Jawad Williams? I think he will find a new team this summer.

    From realcavsfans,

    Jawad has shown that he has a very wide skill set, he can post up, hit spot up jumpers, has 3 point range, and plays solid defense.
    He's also pretty lethargic for the SF position, and is too slender to play the 4. Classic tweener.
    He is definitely not as athletic as he could be. I saw him body up a few guys last year. I think he could guard some smaller 4's. He actually seems pretty strong.
    Not really a big fan of Jawad. he does have some offensive ability of which he could on a rare occasion expose a defense. In my opinion Jawad is not good enough at any one thing, or big or athletic enough to warrant retaining. Certainly wouldn't be pissed to see him at the end of the bench being a local product and all, but do not see him as a rotation player despite the hole left at the three spot. As JaYp146 said, classic tweener.
    He's excellent at positioning himself and boxing out his man, which translates into rebounds for players other than himself. So while he doesn't have good rebounding numbers himself, he helps the team rebound.

    What I have gotten so far that he is 6 foot 9, a tweener who can play the 3/4 and has some range providing some solid defense. Isn't this a classic off the bench energy type player who you can plug in when you need it?
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    http://www.realcavsfans.com/showthread.php?t=33993

    Here's a few pages about the Cavs fan's opinions of Jawad and the Spurs' interest in him.

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    What I have gotten so far that he is 6 foot 9, a tweener who can play the 3/4 and has some range providing some solid defense. Isn't this a classic off the bench energy type player who you can plug in when you need it?
    Except that Spurs likely won't carry more than 13 players for financial reasons. They don't have a lot of space at their end of the bench so they had to be very picky about their end of the bench.

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    sounds like he is a hard worker but nothing more than an NBA 12th man.

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    Except that Spurs likely won't carry more than 13 players for financial reasons. They don't have a lot of space at their end of the bench so they had to be very picky about their end of the bench.
    Well, what he will be signed for is definitely lesser than what Matt Bonner signed for and has that upside that Bonner obviously doesn't, which means the Spurs dug their own grave then. The position Jawad plays is definitely a position the Spurs have no players playing at, which is the tweener 3/4, which means that if the need to play small ball arises, Jawad Williams can be called upon way easier than Alonzo Gee who can't play the small ball 4. As a fan, I just want to see the team win. Whether they go all into the luxury tax area isn't much of my concern. I hope the Spurs try their best to win a le this year, luxury tax or not.

    Obviously, this is a buisness, and if the Spurs want to save money by avoiding the luxury tax hit, that is their decision to make. As a fan, I don't own their 4 championships, nor their shares and the money they earn. They should do what is best for the organization. If they want to save money, who am I to criticize them for?

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    The Cavaliers are playing a waiting game with restricted free agent forward Jawad Williams.

    They made a $1.03 million qualifying offer to the 6-foot-9, 218-pounder at the end of June. Unless Williams gets a better offer from another team, he'll likely accept the qualifying offer.

    Cavs general manager Chris Grant is hoping to add Williams to the roster. He could become the starting small forward. If nothing else, Williams will compete for playing time with Jamario Moon and newcomer Joey Graham.

    "We like Jawad," Grant said. "We'll get into training camp and see what happens. We have a qualifying offer out to him. I haven't heard one way or the other. Obviously, we'd like him to come to camp and compete and make his mark on being part of the team."

    Williams, 27, recently worked out for the Spurs. If he gets an offer from another team, the Cavs have the ability to match the offer.

    http://news-herald.com/articles/2010.../nh2980410.txt

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    It looks like Cavs aren't high on Jawad Williams and aren't ready to offer him some kind of guaranteed money. It seems that they like more Joey Graham than him.

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    Yesterday I witnessed a game between New Zealand and France. Where France had two Bowen like players in Batum and Pietrus. While NZ started this kid (Thomas Abercombrie) at small forward, who has no professional experience for any significant leaque. What happened? the kid outplays both Pietrus and Batum. Hitting a corner 3 at the end of the game to send NZ to a higher seed. Am I missing something here ?, this kid has just held his own if not outplays the following NBA players he has matched up against: Klieza, Rudy Fernandez, El-Khattib, Batum and Pietrus. While he dunks on NBA centers Marc Gasol, Joel Anthony. Somebody better check this guy out!

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    Florent Pietrus and El Khatib aren't NBA player but I agree with you on Abercrombie.
    I don't know his contract situation but if he is available, he could be worth a trainign camp invite with something like $50K guaranteed.

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    Thomas contract situation is he is contracted to play for the NZ breakers for the Australian league and plays as well the New zealand domestic league ( simi- pro league) . However the player annual salaries are at a measly US $ 40K a year. So any invite from the NBA is a no brainer, where the local teams are more than happy to realease their players if given an NBA invite.( they will actually take it as a compliment that one of their team members got an NBA tryout invite)


    Florent Pietrus and El Khatib aren't NBA player but I agree with you on Abercrombie.
    I don't know his contract situation but if he is available, he could be worth a trainign camp invite with something like $50K guaranteed.

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