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    Let's say it was wide open and 20 time bigger than it actually is.


    Still doesn't make sense that this one guy was targeted by the magic mist.
    The article noted that several friends of the people mentioned in the article living "miles away" noted some similar symptoms.

    Your statement seems to imply that only this family was affected.

    What data do you have that supports this assertion?

    Have you interviewed the neighbors? Have you tested other bodies of water nearby?

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    Let's say he had an olympic-sized poll (clearly it is not). It still doesn't make sense that the magic cloud of toxin only struck his pool.
    So the answer is "No, I had no evidence showing how often the pool is covered, but simply assumed from one picture that it must be a lot, because I essentially stated that it was always covered."

    Thank you.

    Do you often make such wild leaps of deduction on such small amounts of evidence?

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    So the answer is "No, I had no evidence showing how often the pool is covered, but simply assumed from one picture that it must be a lot, because I essentially stated that it was always covered."

    Thank you.

    Do you often make such wild leaps of deduction on such small amounts of evidence?

    Didn't I already grant you that with my olympic-size swimming pool example.


    Do you believe it makes sense that this omipotent cloud of carginogens only landed in this guy's pool?

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    How many other pools have been tested for these materials?

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    DarrinS the article specifically states that others have complained of similar symptoms. His is the only one that was lab tested so far. Additionally, if you used Google Maps as your source of info about a covered pool, then shame on you. I bought my house in april of 2008 and the picture has been from the previous owner until last month.

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    Is it on a flaglot?

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    Is it on a flaglot?
    No, it is a large square corner lot.

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    Dammit! Will George Bush ever stop?

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    Is it on a flaglot?

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    That isn't a covered pool its a screened pool very common in Florida, doesn't keep rain or wind out but is supposed to keep out the giant mosquitoes.

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    That isn't a covered pool its a screened pool very common in Florida, doesn't keep rain or wind out but is supposed to keep out the giant mosquitoes.
    No!

    It's hermetically sealed with its own air supply.

    It's a hyperbaric gazebo.

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    Has anyone in San Antonio tested their pools. I think we're about the same distance away as Tampa is from the spill.

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    If we're playing the speculation game, seems just as plausible that the cover went on the pool after it was exposed in order to keep people from swimming in it and/or prevent the loss of evidence to evaporation.

    Who covers their pool in the summer in TX? Not like there are any leaves.

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    Has anyone in San Antonio tested their pools. I think we're about the same distance away as Tampa is from the spill.
    Have you ever heard of ocean currents, DarrinS?

    I thought not.

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    So, gulf air never enters Texas air space. That's interesting.

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    No!

    It's hermetically sealed with its own air supply.

    It's a hyperbaric gazebo.

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    So, Darrin doesn't know what an ocean is. That's interesting.

    I'm not saying this story is completely true, but Darrin's stupidity is completely true.

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    Has anyone in San Antonio tested their pools. I think we're about the same distance away as Tampa is from the spill.

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    Here is your trophy for Not Reading the Whole Article.

    Congratulations, you're a winner!

    (if you had bothered to read the whole thing you might have seen the mention of spraying aircraft in the area)
    NBA Dan posted this on the 30th in a different thread:

    EXCLUSIVE: Tests find sickened family has 50.3 ppm of Corexit’s 2-butoxyethanol in swimming pool — JUST ONE HOUR NORTH OF TAMPA (lab report included)
    EXCLUSIVE: Tests find sickened family has 50.3 ppm of Corexit’s 2-butoxyethanol in swimming pool — JUST ONE HOUR NORTH OF TAMPA (lab report included)
    August 30th, 2010 at 09:13 AM Print Post Email Post


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    “Warren collected a water sample from the pool filter on August 17th… packed the sample according to Mr. Naman’s instructions, and overnighted it to his Mobile, Ala. lab that same day,” she noted.

    The results were delivered by Naman over the phone on August 27 at 11:00 a.m. EDT. A copy of the findings were then e-mailed to the Scheblers. To view the do ent, click here.

    “Naman said our pool water sample we sent him contained 50.3 ppm
    (parts per million) 2-butoxyethanol marker for Corexit,” according to Mrs. Schebler. Tests for arsenic came back at less than .02 ppm.

    A July letter http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:_R... from four top scientists noted, “Corexit 9527A contains 2-BTE (2-butoxyethanol), a toxic solvent that ruptures red blood cells, causing hemolysis (bleeding) and liver and kidney damage (Johanson and Bowman, 1991, Nalco, 2010).”
    The linked article says this:
    “Our first clue were rashes we both got early in May. Both my husband and I couldn’t get rid of the rashes and had to get cream from our doctor,”
    “The prevailing winds from the Gulf are easterly — and when they spray, it is airborne — and that we are right in the path of those winds.”
    I didn't compare the two, read both, and believe they are the same. They don't know what they are talking about. A easterly wind blows east to west, not from the spill to Florida. that would be a westerly.
    A few weeks later with a easterly wind? give me a break. hence my response.

    Buy a clue please. Read and understand the article before accusing me of not doing so.
    Last edited by Wild Cobra; 09-02-2010 at 07:51 PM.

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    No!

    It's hermetically sealed with its own air supply.

    It's a hyperbaric gazebo.

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    I wasn't aware that San Antonio had a border with a body of water, as Tampa does... When did this occur?

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    You know, I just read where corexit breaks down in 28 days. the marker would no longer be present. How many days from the last time that type of corexit was used, until the water sample?

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    That isn't a covered pool its a screened pool very common in Florida, doesn't keep rain or wind out but is supposed to keep out the giant mosquitoes.
    Do you know what "Surface Tension" is? Sure, some of the chemical if transported in water mist could fall into the pool, but most of it would have rolled down and outside the pool. This means even a greater amount would have had to be present to account for 50.3 parts per million.

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    A team from the Woods Hole Oceanographic Ins ution in Woods Hole, Mass., reported in August that it had mapped a giant plume, or cloud, of oil floating beneath the surface. It is one of three or four plumes other groups have also reported.
    This cloud was about as tall as a 50-story office building and more than a mile long. It was floating more than 3,000 feet beneath the surface, and the researchers say that’s mysterious. Oil usually floats on top of water, but there may be many of these plumes crawling along, deep underwater.

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    Robert Herrin, beach vendor: “You could see nothing but pitch black water. The waves were almost just sludge like, just rolling in sludge it was so thick. And it was matting on the shoreline. I would say at least this thick in some places.” [Hands apart almost a foot]. … “Sunglasses, aluminum cans, also marine life was caught inside there and had died cause they couldn’t escape.”…”We all definitely think that it’s oil spill related, there’s nothing like this that has ever happened.”
    WEAR: It washed in Friday behind the Sterling Sands Condominiums in Destin, a smelly black mat, hundreds of yards long and full of debris. … BP… say[s] what washed up on the beach was something called black algae, no oil involved. To many here, that answer is a tough sell. … Shave ice vendor Lisa Hagen thinks either oil or dispersants somehow created the strange mass… “So you’re not convinced that it was just black algae?”
    Lisa Hagen, beach vendor: “I’ve never heard of black algae. I don’t even know what black algae is. If there is black algae out there, I’ve never seen it in Destin or Fort Walton Beach in forty years. I would like a researcher to come in, an independent researcher and give me some answers, or give the town some answers.”

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