i'll sig bet with you. Im not impressed with Mayweather at this weight. Mayweather was awesome when he was in the lower weights, but has yet to convince me that he can fight at 147.
Deal. Would be interesting if the fight happens (outcome not fight). i love boxing but the biggest fights are often letdowns the mid-leve;l guys like Diego corrales gave the best fights usually ...
Also since we both are laker fans Im guesing the loser gets something crazy done to their sigz ...
yes you get my sasha sig
i respect mayweathers skill..i just want him to fight the best fighters regardless if its pacman or not.
We ALL do (boxing fans) but he won't. If he fights manny and beats him he is done ...even if he loses ...not sure he would fight a rematch ...but if he did THAT? I would respect him MUCH more ...yes you get my sasha sig
i respect mayweathers skill..i just want him to fight the best fighters regardless if its pacman or not.
I'll take Floyd over Manny but I can easily see Manny winning this fight by just stealing three or four rounds because he's the busier fighter. Case and point, look at that Jean Pascal-Chad Dawson fight. Pascal landed two good shots per round and Dawson stood there. Pascal won the first four rounds just off being the busier fighter and he really didn't do .
Floyd was the same way giving away a few early rounds against Zab Judah but came back and did his thing. Those can come back and seriously bite you in the ass. Ask Chad Dawson.
Floyd is a big ing pussy.
Unlike all the other fighters that Floyd has faced, Pac has a really, really good chance of knocking Floyd out. I know PBF is a supremely-gifted defensive boxer, but sooner or later, Pacquiao's vicious punches will land. It's not gonna be a pretty sight if that happens
If PBF can't KO a bulked up and slowed down Marquez, not sure how he's gonna kick Pac's ass. All I see is that he's going to hide behind his shoulder roll and try to unload a counter punches when Pac starts to put on the pressure.
Pac hammered Morales and Barrera and that's damn impressive considering how great these fighters were.
I agree with your point with Marquez though. Pacquiao really has trouble with guys who counterpuch really well. If Floyd can time Pacquiao's punch, he's got a solid chance of beating him
Floyd could have been KO'd by Shane or "Chico" Corrales but in that Mosley bout, he made his adjustments and owned every round after the first two.
With Corrales, that was the best I have ever seen Floyd fight. That's the Floyd I want and it's sad that it was almost ten years ago. Maybe Manny will get some stick in there on him. The one thing I do know is Manny won't stop throwing punches; the sole reason why de la Hoya lost to Floyd.
Agree with this. The last interesting Floyd match that I watched was when he fought Ricky Hatton.
Pac fought Barrera in 2003 and hammered him in eleven rounds. Four years later, Pac cruised to an easy win against Barrera. Thing is, Pac simply has Barrera's number. Not sure what you're watching
Agree with you. I still remember Corrales falling down four or five times before his corner eventually stopped the fight. That was the time when Floyd was still a real fighter.
Many people say that when Castillo hurt Floyd, he started choosing his fights more cautiously.
Manny won't stop throwing punches, that is true. But even with his much improved defense, his main weakness is that he still gets hit a lot. I think this is the first time that Manny will be facing a fighter who has a comparable skill (maybe even better) and quickness. I want Manny to win personally, but I will not be surprised if Floyd beats him.
Yeah, Chico took a nice beating. Classic Floyd. Dude was just so fast in that fight. He was the smaller fighter and wasn't afraid to engage. He beat the out of Corrales.
Castillo actually made him work. Many people had Castillo winning the first one. I could have seen it going either way or a draw. The second one wasn't that far off as well. Castillo gave Floyd many problems.
As far as Manny is concerned, I can't fault him for going and fighting Margarito. I mean if Floyd says this is how the testing is going to go, and Manny agrees to it, the ball is now in Floyd's court.
And I'll damn sure believe Roach before I believe Ellerbe.
Good postHere's a question, if Pacquiao opted to fight JMM for the third time, instead of Margarito, who would win? Pacquiao and JMM will do this in the 147-lb (welterweight) division.
Naw, I don't see Marquez coming up to 147 or even a catch weight at 142-144. You're asking a 35 year old dude to pack on 8-10 more pounds and fight Manny who's comfortable as at 144.Good post
If it were to go down, they'd probably fight around 140 and Manny would be comfortable there as well. I might go with Marquez if they were to fight at 135 and Manny at 144-147. At 140, it would be a toss up especially seeing the way Marquez ended the career of the Baby Bull.
JMM and manny were good fights cuz they fought at a fair weight at 130#. If manny makes marquez move up, it wont be the same and pac would have the advantage. Manny is much improved since the last fight and in two fights, manny knocked him down 4 times. Im sure manny would take it at 140 or 147.Good post
I don't blame Manny mking $ but what does beating Margarito prove?
Mosley whupped his ass and Floyd beat Shane easy.
Why not fight shane? Whup his ass (if he can) worse than Floyd then call him out afterwards? right there in the ring with larry Mercant call hm straight like Omar did marlo in the last season of the wire?
and if Floyd has any pride his twiiter reply "my name is my name!!!" LOL
Last edited by Killakobe81; 09-03-2010 at 11:32 AM.
shane is pretty old dude. Pac whooped DLH and Hatton worst then Floyd did and it didnt make a differnce...he's still ducking. Fighting Shane doesnt prove anythign either. I rather see Margarito then a shane mosely fight. Honestly, there is like noone else to fight but Mayweather.
this i agree with ...but whatever. This non fight (PBF/manny) is why as much I love boxing, makes me realize why MMA is passing (passed) it in popularity ...
Manny has options. First, can't take away the fact that Shane was considered the top 147er after mopping up Margarito and Floyd handled Shane minus round 2. Props to Nazim Richardson for doing what a trainer is supposed to be doing and finding illegal hand wraps. They had dude hands wrapped before Richardson was able to see them do the job. Makes you think about that Cotto fight.
When Floyd fought Oscar, he had to go up in weight. Oscar just ed up and stopped throwing his jab. Oscar lost that fight more than Floyd won it. When Manny fought Oscar, Oscar was dead before the fight and the IV marks in his arms proved it. Easy pickings and all Manny did was lead left Oscar the entire fight. Had him looking like Harvey Two-Face. One side untouched, the other side, brutally beaten.
Hatton was the real test because he came up to fight Floyd and Floyd did what he was supposed to do but he fought Manny at the natural 140 and at a weight he dominated; and got worked. Blame Mayweather Sr. for trying to turn a brawler into a boxer after he's been brawling his entire career. Classic KO.
If Manny doesn't fight Floyd, he could go down to 140 and fight Devon Alexander, Timothy Bradley, Amir Khan (which I doubt - both trained by Roach) or Marcos Maidana. 140 is definitely stacked.
Good point, I agree with you. Personally, I would love Pac to fight JMM again just to settle the issue. The fights between them were really close and I believe JMM brings out the best out of Manny. He makes Pac work really, really hard for his wins.
At 147, I don't think JMM can handle Pac's speed and power, considering how slow he looked against Floyd when he fought at that weight.
Last edited by ezau; 09-03-2010 at 08:45 PM.
Timothy Bradley is a fight a want to see. However, I don't think his name rings a bell to most fight fans. Knowing Arum, he wants to get the biggest fights possible for Pac before he hang up his gloves.
Aside from the Bradley fight, Pac can also move up to junior middleweight to get Cotto's belt.
I'm not saying that Cotto would have a chance beating Pac, but an eighth world le in as many divisions would look really good on Pac's resume
Last edited by ezau; 09-04-2010 at 01:18 AM.
well Floyd has called Manny out again. I won't post it here because it's childish and racist. I hope they fight even more now though ...
Here goes Floyd again.
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