The most EPIC hilarious cop tazing old man for no reason thread

[bus driver]

well someone called the police......they just didnt decide to show up at this mans house because they wanted to tase an old man. i say the old man....if he wanted to kill himself he should have done it. now the taxpayer will have to pay because this old man is a pussy.



and at the "cop killers/haters" but you all are probably be the first to call the cops when your car gets dinged.

[resistanze]

silverblk mystix, you're ing reaching.

[Sportcamper]

Fck cops. There will come a day when they represent the enemy. I look forward to that day.

Oh now that is rich...
All you tough talking trolls, sitting in the safety of your parent’s garage…
The next time you need the help of our police…Call a pot smoking hippie…

[resistanze]

and at the "cop killers/haters" but you all are probably be the first to call the cops when your car gets dinged.

Funny you say that, I've never been helped by police when I was the victim of a crime. One time I even located my stolen car in a parking lot and gave the police all the info they needed but they refused to show up, for a week. By then, the car had disappeared of course. In fact, I've never had a positive experience with the police, I just steer clear and try to solve my own problems.

Police officers are not gods. They're ing assholes like you and me. Except they have guns or tasers, which makes them a lot more dangerous than the average person. People will justify anything cops do, and it might just come to bite you in the ass later on.

[TinTin]

I don't know much about police protocol but does a police manual say that you always have to use a tazer? Is physical contact (like a tackle or a suplex) disallowed when suspects resist arrest in case he is concealing something?

Or is it up to the genius cop's judgement when to use a tazer or not?

I still think if you are going to arrest him and if his wife is pleading that he has a heart condition (get the story checked out by one of your hq) then just hold him and arrest him. How much of a fight could he possibly put up?

[silverblk mystix]

silverblk mystix, you're ing reaching.

How?

Everything I have said is true. I did NOT say I knew all the facts--I merely stated that , although it looks a certain way, and everyone here is a cop hater...

I am just looking at both sides and I will be very interested to hear all the other details...

Hate cops all you want...that's fine...

but at least know what you are talking about before you judge...

If you would like to learn about cop protocol and basic law--regarding police tactics and arrest procedures...it is all in the penal code..every state has their own penal code...

and police officers usually are pretty well trained and NOT out to be assholes and with people's rights...

yes, there are also a LOT of cops who are also criminals and horrible human beings---but you can say that about almost any profession...

so far--with the limited info that was given on this particular case---it is NOT and open and shut case in favor of the old guy...

it is VERY possible that it will end up as the police officers being cleared of any and all complaints...

[Cry Havoc]

This is so common whenever this kind of thing happens.People like you that see a video---or rather see a video as presented by one side and assume that they know all the facts of the case.

This little video was shown on TV by a TV station...who only cares about ratings...therefore...you ONLY see the side of the plaintiff/complainant shown...and you hear inflammatory verbiage such as, ``in the sanc y of his own home.''

Again, I repeat---both YOU and I--- do NOT KNOW ALL THE FACTS!

Even the TV anchor said that the police asked him to do something and he refused---for 5 minutes---but we DON'T know what ELSE went on for those 5 MINUTES!

As for the warrant and the miranda rights;

again...we DON'T know if they, in fact, did or not.

the warrant may or may not be necessary ---depending on the situation...

for example: if the police are called to respond...they respond to a residence...then they hear sounds,yellin,things crashin....a scream---whatever(this is just an example-ok)

then they have every right to enter a dwelling---if they think that there could be a crime or a dangerous situation in progress---that explains the lack of a warrant---or rather---THAT COULD explain the warrant issue--

but --AGAIN---WE DON'T KNOW!

We still don't know who called the police---or what was said when the police was called...

like I said before...IF it is as you say---just police coming into his house for NO REASON---NO CAUSE---THEN--you may be right---

and yes---those are bad cops who should NOT get away with it...

but as far as the rest---it is a very ONE SIDED video which makes it look really bad for the police----but THAT is what will get you the RATINGS!

YOUR comment about---he had every right to refuse to comply---because he had done nothing wrong---is COMPLETELY wrong...where you get that---I just don't know...

If I am in my house...and I have done nothing wrong...the police...storm inside with guns---a whole ing swat team...and they order me to put my hands behind my back---are you saying that i can refuse and tell them you for 5 in minutes?

give me a in break....I will be a dead man---AND I did nothing wrong...

Now---say that happened...

because I STILL HAVE A IN BRAIN---I

would do EXACTLY AS THE OFFICERS ORDERED ME TO...

then ...when the time is right...I will GET A LAWYER and settle things to my satisfaction....and BE ALIVE TO TELL MY GRANDKIDS ABOUT IT SOMEDAY!

as for the rest----WE STILL DON'T KNOW MOST OF THE FACTS---so why not wait to see what or why the officers did what they did BEFORE you assume you know everything and before you automatically assume that the officers were wrong...

Why did they drop the "resisting arrest" warrant? You won't answer basic questions.

[silverblk mystix]

One other thing...

The old man is a in idiot for trying to fight that case in the media...

that lawyer already showed that he is incompetent by ALLOWING that video to be shown to garner public support...

I may not know a lot about a lot of things---but one thing I DO know is that you don't fight a case through the media----

IF YOU REALLY WANT TO WIN THE CASE...

HOWEVER---



If what you REALLY want is a settlement $$

then you fight your case through the media...

that video was allegedly from the police officers camera...

Police officers already KNOW they are being recorded and they will try very hard to act professionally because they know the public perception is rough against law enforcement...

the fact that the officers conversed with the uncooperative old man for five full minutes- should lead ANY REASONABLE PERSON to believe that the officers showed EXTREME patience in finally attempting to apprehend the old guy...

don't forget....

the old prick had returned from a in party---at midnight and was probably drunk and hostile and had already threatened to use a gun...

good job by the cops

Marin county is almost NOTHING BUT millionaires and billionaires...the old guy does NOT need the money---trust me...

the marin county sheriff's dept is highly trained to be ``delicate'' with their residents---because millionaires and billionaires...just happen to have some pretty good attorneys at their beck and call---

most of the marin county residents---ARE --LAWYERS!

but this old prick is NOT smart enough to have hired one of the GOOD lawyers---he instead appears to have hired an ambulance chaser as his attorney---dumb



When all the smoke clears...I will bet my paycheck that those officers will be cleared and will actually be found to have done a good job!

[Cry Havoc]

One other thing...

The old man is a in idiot for trying to fight that case in the media...

that lawyer already showed that he is incompetent by ALLOWING that video to be shown to garner public support...

I may not know a lot about a lot of things---but one thing I DO know is that you don't fight a case through the media----

IF YOU REALLY WANT TO WIN THE CASE...

HOWEVER---



If what you REALLY want is a settlement $$

then you fight your case through the media...

that video was allegedly from the police officers camera...

Police officers already KNOW they are being recorded and they will try very hard to act professionally because they know the public perception is rough against law enforcement...

the fact that the officers conversed with the uncooperative old man for five full minutes- should lead ANY REASONABLE PERSON to believe that the officers showed EXTREME patience in finally attempting to apprehend the old guy...

don't forget....

the old prick had returned from a in party---at midnight and was probably drunk and hostile and had already threatened to use a gun...

good job by the cops

Marin county is almost NOTHING BUT millionaires and billionaires...the old guy does NOT need the money---trust me...

the marin county sheriff's dept is highly trained to be ``delicate'' with their residents---because millionaires and billionaires...just happen to have some pretty good attorneys at their beck and call---

most of the marin county residents---ARE --LAWYERS!

but this old prick is NOT smart enough to have hired one of the GOOD lawyers---he instead appears to have hired an ambulance chaser as his attorney---dumb



When all the smoke clears...I will bet my paycheck that those officers will be cleared and will actually be found to have done a good job!

You need to be tazed for the way you abuse caps lock and punctuation.

[silverblk mystix]

Why did they drop the "resisting arrest" warrant? You won't answer basic questions.

I thought I answered EVERY question....

the answer to why the judge dropped the resisting arrest is---WE DON'T KNOW YET!

NOT YOU

NOT ME

NO-ONE ON THIS BOARD.


Now,

I can SPECULATE---just like everyone else here...so I will give it a shot...

First...

we don't know what is on the police officers report...they could have arrested him for resisting arrest, assault on a peace officer, threats, ---or any number of charges---

and maybe this judge threw out the ---resisting arrest

but KEPT all the other charges---WE DON'T KNOW!

OR

maybe that WAS the only charge (resisting arrest)

and the JUDGE threw it out and thinks the officers are criminals---WE DON'T KNOW!

OR

there could be political reasons,

money reasons...

the idiot attorney could have pleaded the old guy and got a charge or two dropped...

it could be ANYTHING----

WHY?










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[silverblk mystix]

You need to be tazed for the way you abuse caps lock and punctuation.

Don't TAZE me bro'

you are right , for once....


sorry----

I like typing fast...and hitting all kinds of random;
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keys


just for the of it;


reliving my days as a hack writer

no wonder I ended up writing on a in' spurs forum....

[Cry Havoc]

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KNOW!

We know he has a heart condition.

Is that a great situation to taze someone in, who's potentially suicidal with a known heart condition?

[DisAsTerBot]

the marin county sheriff's dept is highly trained to be ``delicate'' with their residents---because millionaires and billionaires...just happen to have some pretty good attorneys at their beck and call---

as opposed to?...... good argument.

[silverblk mystix]

We know he has a heart condition.

Is that a great situation to taze someone in, who's potentially suicidal with a known heart condition?

Good question.

Let me answer your question with another question.

Is having a heart condition enough of a reason to avoid being tased?

In other words;

if YOU or I had a heart condition---we would probably be aware of it right?

If then, we were aware we had a heart condition and a police officer just happened to



have his IN' SIGHTS ON MY CHEST FOR FIVE IN' MINUTES!!!!!!


would I be smart enough to comply with the officers request BEFORE I GOT TASED??????


Would you?


Please answer my question.

[Kermit]

Good question.

Let me answer your question with another question.

Is having a heart condition enough of a reason to avoid being tased?

In other words;

if YOU or I had a heart condition---we would probably be aware of it right?

If then, we were aware we had a heart condition and a police officer just happened to



have his IN' SIGHTS ON MY CHEST FOR FIVE IN' MINUTES!!!!!!


would I be smart enough to comply with the officers request BEFORE I GOT TASED??????


Would you?


Please answer my question.

You suck at devil's advocate.

[silverblk mystix]

as opposed to?...... good argument.

I'm not sure what you are asking, but what I meant is that it is one thing to be a little careless when dealing with the public in South Central L.A.

not that a police officer should or would

but if you happen to forget to cross your T's and dot your I's

in Watts


you will probably get away with it.

But if you are careless in Marin County, Beverly Hills,Bel-Aire

or the Hamptons


you will probably be facing a LOT of citizen complaints in a court of law

with some high paid lawyers who just want a chance to embarrass the P.D.

[nomanches]

Good question.

Let me answer your question with another question.

Is having a heart condition enough of a reason to avoid being tased?

In other words;

if YOU or I had a heart condition---we would probably be aware of it right?

If then, we were aware we had a heart condition and a police officer just happened to



have his IN' SIGHTS ON MY CHEST FOR FIVE IN' MINUTES!!!!!!


would I be smart enough to comply with the officers request BEFORE I GOT TASED??????


Would you?


Please answer my question.

So you're not going to answer his first question? You basically responded with, "Well he shouldn't have given the officer at ude, and obeyed!". The officer was pointing his taser pistol at the man's chest because the man refused to go to the hospital. The man used hyperbole. Kind of like, "I'm so hungry I can eat a horse." No one who hears that really thinks someone is going to eat a ing horse.

[silverblk mystix]

You suck at devil's advocate.

Probably.

But the point is that you are automatically giving ALL the blame for the TASING on the police.


No-one is apparently putting any blame on the old man for getting himself tased.

That was all I meant.

[silverblk mystix]

So you're not going to answer his first question? You basically responded with, "Well he shouldn't have given the officer at ude, and obeyed!". The officer was pointing his taser pistol at the man's chest because the man refused to go to the hospital. The man used hyperbole. Kind of like, "I'm so hungry I can eat a horse." No one who hears that really thinks someone is going to eat a ing horse.

I understand what you are saying-but I can't agree.

Suppose it was just hyperbole,ok.

What if the old man shot his wife and then himself.

Don't you think that everyone would then be saying---why didn't the cops stop him?

Why didn't they get him some help?

You see?

It is a lose-lose situation.

If the police tase someone--so they don't have to break any bones--then everyone is upset at the tasing.

If the cops DON'T tase---and forcibly handcuff him---and his neck hurts tomorrow---the cops are sued for injuring him,etc...

besides...


We don't know HOW the old man said it and regardless---you and I and Joe Blow would have three different opinions on what he meant anyway.

[Cry Havoc]

Probably.

But the point is that you are automatically giving ALL the blame for the TASING on the police.


No-one is apparently putting any blame on the old man for getting himself tased.

That was all I meant.

Usually that's how people react when the violation of human rights' have occurred.

Police are to protect and serve. Not give orders and taze people who stand up for their rights (pun intended).

[DisAsTerBot]

I'm not sure what you are asking, but what I meant is that it is one thing to be a little careless when dealing with the public in South Central L.A.

not that a police officer should or would

but if you happen to forget to cross your T's and dot your I's

in Watts


you will probably get away with it.

But if you are careless in Marin County, Beverly Hills,Bel-Aire

or the Hamptons


you will probably be facing a LOT of citizen complaints in a court of law

with some high paid lawyers who just want a chance to embarrass the P.D.

so depending on where the non-crime in this case takes place, police can "get away" with more because of class?
that's some quality training there... again, good argument.

[nomanches]

Suppose it was just hyperbole,ok. What if the old man shot his wife and then himself.

If it was just hyperbole, then there wouldn't be any reason to believe that he would seriously shoot himself or his wife. Swimming in a sea of hypothetical gets us nowhere.

If the police tase someone--so they don't have to break any bones--then everyone is upset at the tasing.

Why would the police have to either break someone's bones or tase an individual for refusing medical treatment? I think people are upset over the concern that police have a monopoly on power and violence and abuse that power. This is an instance where police abused their power.

[silverblk mystix]

Usually that's how people react when the violation of human rights' have occurred.

Police are to protect and serve. Not give orders and taze people who stand up for their rights (pun intended).

Maybe you didn't read the previous posts and I don't feel the need to explain it all again. But relating to this post ;

IF you could for a moment--put yourself in the officers shoes---you just got dispatched to a report of a male, intoxicated or on drugs, threatening to kill someone...

and you show up , you are a bit nervous because you never know when someone who hates cops --like most of this board---

is going to end your life....

then YOU would probably use a taser to handcuff a guy and SEARCH that couch to make sure there is NOT a weapon that will end your life---


get it?

no-one's human rights have been violated if a police officer was summoned for help and there is a man who may or may not be armed and is acting a bit

erratic...

then no-one's rights are violated

it is a possibly dangerous and unstable scene which could--at any given moment---turn deadly


understand?

[bus driver]

Funny you say that, I've never been helped by police when I was the victim of a crime. One time I even located my stolen car in a parking lot and gave the police all the info they needed but they refused to show up, for a week. By then, the car had disappeared of course. In fact, I've never had a positive experience with the police, I just steer clear and try to solve my own problems.

Police officers are not gods. They're ing assholes like you and me. Except they have guns or tasers, which makes them a lot more dangerous than the average person. People will justify anything cops do, and it might just come to bite you in the ass later on.

one crime and you found your own car, your Batman!
hopefully you dont fall off a cliff (get shot, ran over, etc) and need the cops/paramedics help's because by your logic you will send them away.

[silverblk mystix]

so depending on where the non-crime in this case takes place, police can "get away" with more because of class?
that's some quality training there... again, good argument.

I didn't invent the system.

I never defended the fact that cops in affluent areas are trained a little differently than cops in ghettos.

I also didn't even mention that cops will behave more in line with their environments, for example;

If Cop #1 has worked a precinct in Harlem for ten straight years and has had shots and swipes taken at him every day for ten years---he will probably treat everyone he pulls over in a pretty aggressive fashion---it is not right---I did NOT invent this---it is just HUMAN NATURE...

Cop #2

has worked in Bel-Aire and all he deals with is starlets and senile movie producers who can't find their in Bentley in the Peninsula Club Bar parking lot....

that cop will be a little more relaxed when he approaches a suspect or approaches a driver that he just pulled over...

I didn't invent this or justify this

but that is reality

regarding Marin County

it was only my point that because of the clientele that those deputies have to serve on a daily basis


they have A TON of training in things such as cultural sensitivity, proper police procedures, accurate report writing,etc....