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I disagree, and I'm a hardcore Manu fan too.
manu is the best foreign player in the nba all time, point blank period.... not soft ass no d playing dirk but manu.. and u can bet that
I disagree, and I'm a hardcore Manu fan too.
Before you went point blank on this, did you remember that Hakeem Olajuwon, Patrick Ewing, Steve Nash and Dominique Wilkins were International players (not even counting Timmy's Virgin Islands as foreign)?
Personal favorites aside (Manu) ...then there are those who would say that in their prime, Sabonis, Dejan Bodiroga and Oscar Schmidt were better.
I don't know that I'd count Dominique Wilkins as international. He was born in Paris while his dad was stationed over there.
Manu is better than you, more succesful too.
Last edited by DAF86; 09-06-2010 at 09:29 PM.
However....Ditka could have stopped Olajuwon, Ewing, Nash and Wilkins at the same time. Manu, not so much.
Bodiroga?
He can't be used in the same sentence as Manu. Scrub loser
Well, I do like Manu but Dejan was a stud. You wouldn't happen to be a Serbian hating Croat would you?
That's not Dirk, Gasol, Hakeem, or anybody who isn't Manu.
I just happen to be a guy that has seen pussy Dejan skip NBA like a girl and Manu going all in succeding. The disire and passion in both guys it's just different, even when playing internationally with NT.
Same can be said for Papaloukas and Dimitris regarding the NBA. Of course, Theo has more desire and passion, no question.
You've got a good point there.
Theo really wanted to play in the NBA, but when NBA teams came knocking on his door it was too late, he was past his prime.
Dejan was the man back then, one the best players I have ever seen compete at any level. That much better than Peja, the way he re-invented the game was brilliant. Not a coincidence Manu modeled (parts of his) his game after Deja.
Dimitris Diamantidis never had any desire to play in the NBA, not as fast to begin with, he could be a bruce type of guy with the ability to create for others once in a while. Other than AK-47 he is the other player that I would love to seen him in spurs uniform when he was younger.
speaking of international players who should be in the NBA, Kirk Penny and Thomas Abercombrie should be in the NBA.
A lot of people said Sabonis is the best international player ever. Oscar was a fantastic scorer, one of the best I ever seen. And I had a privilege to see him play many times. Even at 37 he was fantastic. I loved go to the games to see him play and it was even better he played for the team that I'm a big fan, Corinthians.
But I think as an overall player Manu is better than him. Oscar for sure was a better scorer but Manu plays better D and have much better playmaking ability.
You know nothing about Dejan Bodiroga.
Sabonis, Petrovic, Danilovic, Parker and Divac.
Sorry Dirk, you are too much of a loser.
Manu is in a class with Bradley as the only players that won at all levels.
Manu is different by definition.
Have to go with the Dream as much as I love Manu or even Dirk's game.
Put Duncan in his prime with the Dream and that team would never lose period.
manu is not even the best international player on his own team
Not sure I understand the debate some of you are having about international players that never played in the NBA. It's not in the context of the OP.
IMHO, if we are basing this ranking on the NBA career of the international player, it is Dream. If we are talking about an international NBA player that had huge success both in the NBA and as an international player, then Manu is definitely on the short list. A very short list.
I first listed some foreign (non-USA) born NBA players. Then, I brought up the non-NBAers to suggest that some would say that Bodiroga and Schmidt were better than Manu...even though they were never in the NBA. Just ing up and broadening the discussion.
Oscar Shmidt - Brazil
dude averaged 44ppg in Seoul Olympics
How can you say that Dream had a better NBA career than Duncan?
Not disputing that he's one of the greatest all time but Duncan has the better career I think.
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