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    TheDrewShow is salty lefty's Avatar
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    http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footbal...hheisman090710

    Sources: Trust to take Bush’s Heisman

    By Charles Robinson and Jason Cole 1 hour, 59 minutes ago









    Follow Charles Robinson on Twitter at @WindyCityScribe
    The Heisman Trophy Trust is expected to strip former University of Southern California star running back Reggie Bush of college football’s top honor by the end of September, sources told Yahoo! Sports.
    Bush would become the first player in the 75-year history of the award to have the trophy taken away. The NCAA found major violations in the Trojans’ football program in June and levied serious sanctions against the school.
    Two sources close to the Heisman trust said the body’s investigation is coming to a close, and will ultimately concur with the NCAA’s determination that Bush was ineligible during his Heisman-winning season in 2005. Because of that independent conclusion, sources said the trust will relieve Bush of the award and leave the honor for that season vacant. The sources said Bush met with Heisman representatives last month at the New York law offices of Emmet, Marvin & Martin. The sources would not reveal details of that meeting.
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    Bush, now a standout with the Super Bowl champion New Orleans Saints, could not immediately be reached for comment.
    It appears as if the Heisman Trophy Trust is about to strip Reggie Bush of his 2005 trophy.
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    The Heisman trust has been conducting its own independent inquiry into Bush’s eligibility since the NCAA ruled in June that the USC star had committed multiple violations by accepting cash, gifts and other impermissible benefits while playing for the Trojans. Yahoo! Sports first detailed the extra benefits in September 2006. In its findings, the NCAA retroactively ruled Bush ineligible for part of the 2004 season and all of 2005. The NCAA also ordered the USC program to remove all references to Bush from its sporting venues and promotional materials and vacate his statistics from all games in which he was ineligible.
    In July, incoming USC president C.L. Max Nikias announced that the university would be returning its copy of Bush’s Heisman to the trust, stating the Trojans would honor and respect athletes who “did not compromise their athletic program or the opportunities of future USC student-athletes.” New USC athletic director Pat Haden followed up in August, stating during an interview with the Dan Patrick radio show that Bush should also voluntarily return his Heisman.
    While others pressed for a swift decision, the trust opted for a patient, meticulous effort. Sources said the trust did its own detailed investigation over the past three months, using a litany of resources and reviewing its information against the NCAA’s findings. The trust also offered Bush a chance to impact the decision.
    The process apparently came with considerable debate – in part because of the trust’s quest for due process, but also because of the unique nature of the decision. Never in the history of the award has the trust been forced to retroactively rule on the eligibility of a past winner. That reality, along with the NCAA’s findings, created a tangled knot of deliberation regarding the trust’s place in the role of enforcement. Sources said the prominent issues discussed included accountability, on-field vs. off-field conduct, implications of retroactively stripping an award and possible impact on future athletes and the NCAA.
    Two factors outweighed all others, sources said: The Heisman ballot necessitates candidates be in compliance with NCAA bylaws and concern over the Heisman’s reputation in the wake of the NCAA findings against Bush.
    The status of USC’s 2004 Bowl Championship Series national le remains to be determined. BCS officials are awaiting the NCAA’s ruling on the Trojans’ appeal of the June finding.
    Contact Yahoo! Sports investigative reporter Charles Robinson at [email protected]

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    OH YOU LIKE IT!!! slick'81's Avatar
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    would i say hes a cheater no but he does deserve to lose his trophy

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    Long, Dark Blues redzero's Avatar
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    Well, he has a different trophy now so it's all good.

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    Based dirk4mvp's Avatar
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    weird how you didn't start posting in the nfl forum until the Saints started winning

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    Aggieland Spurs Fan LoneStarState'sPride's Avatar
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    I do not agree--cheating or not, he was unquestionably the best player in football that year, IMHO. Stripping him of the Heisman does not change that.

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    i hunt fenced animals clambake's Avatar
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    vince young should have won it. he singlehandedly destroyed the football factory.

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    Long, Dark Blues redzero's Avatar
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    weird how you didn't start posting in the nfl forum until the Saints started winning
    I barely post in this forum ever.

    And it's not like I could join SpursTalk in March of 2009 and then go back in time and post when the Saints didn't make the playoffs.

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    Based dirk4mvp's Avatar
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    what? there wouldn't have been any need to go back in time, fairweather Saints fan.

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    Long, Dark Blues redzero's Avatar
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    am I not allowed to post in the NFL forum now?

    And what team are you a fan of, again?

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    The Last Good Sport samikeyp's Avatar
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    Take the hardware...next time, don't cheat. Is it fair? Probably not but rules are rules and if they are broken, you have to be dealt with accordingly.

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    Based dirk4mvp's Avatar
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    am I not allowed to post in the NFL forum now?
    nope, the nfl forum has a strict no got policy.



    And what team are you a fan of, again?
    Been a Pats/Cowboys fan for as long as I can remember. And that makes me less fair weather than yourself.

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    Long, Dark Blues redzero's Avatar
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    What kind of fraud fan roots for two teams?

    dirk4mvp sure is hurt in the butt over me posting in the NFL forum right now.

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    Parker/Nash/Wade Roddy Beaubois's Avatar
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    Been a Pats/Cowboys fan for as long as I can remember
    good to see you on the bandwagon tbh

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    we rang stretch's Avatar
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    I do not agree--cheating or not, he was unquestionably the best player in football that year, IMHO.
    your opinion is wrong. VY was most definitely superior. plus, he knew how to lateral properly.

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    Based dirk4mvp's Avatar
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    My dad's family is from Dallas and my mom's family is from Bawston. Not hard to grasp. And you are on the same level of gotry as the Jets fan who didn't show up until the AFCCG

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    Based dirk4mvp's Avatar
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    good to see you on the bandwagon tbh
    Dez Bryant's hands won me over tbh.

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    The Last Good Sport samikeyp's Avatar
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    What kind of fraud fan roots for two teams?
    You should meet JGW.

    Ducks also comes to mind.

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    Parker/Nash/Wade Roddy Beaubois's Avatar
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    tbh if Dirk4 wanted to burn redzero he should have just followed the 90210 format:

    I was raised a Cowboys fan. My first shirt as a baby was a Dallas Cowboys shirt. I didn't grow up with the money to go to a game and every job I've had since now has had me working on Sundays. This is the first season I've had a job that allows me off on a Sunday...so what am I doing? Going to a ing game. STFU.

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    Ina world of hype, we win IronMexican's Avatar
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    Did Bush catch any balls while running the Dragon?

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    Long, Dark Blues redzero's Avatar
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    Yeah, the ol' "my father's half-brother was from x" excuse.

    lol at a fan of the Cowboys and Patriots complaining about somebody else.

    I wasn't even posting in this forum for the majority of last season, either. Heaven forbid I make one post about the Saints in the NFL forum.

    I think you need to relax and root for two teams at once like any true fan would.

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    Ina world of hype, we win IronMexican's Avatar
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    Troll line

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    Based dirk4mvp's Avatar
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    Yeah, the ol' "my father's half-brother was from x" excuse.

    lol at a fan of the Cowboys and Patriots complaining about somebody else.

    I wasn't even posting in this forum for the majority of last season, either. Heaven forbid I make one post about the Saints in the NFL forum.

    I think you need to relax and root for two teams at once like any true fan would.
    So I shouldn't root for the teams my parents raised me to root for?

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    Long, Dark Blues redzero's Avatar
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    You should root for the home team and stop being a butthurt, bandwagoning et.

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    Ina world of hype, we win IronMexican's Avatar
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    redzero, mediafire! It's down! It's down!The horror.

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    Based dirk4mvp's Avatar
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    >bandwagoing et
    >saints fan

    So were you a Saints fan when they were going 3-13? I've been rooting for my teams much longer.

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