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    For one thing, applying FFL Straw Purchase guidelines to an individual sale. The guy broke no state or federal laws that I can see.

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    For one thing, applying FFL Straw Purchase guidelines to an individual sale. The guy broke no state or federal laws that I can see.
    He sold a gun to an illegal alien.

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    For one thing, applying FFL Straw Purchase guidelines to an individual sale. The guy broke no state or federal laws that I can see.
    There are none so blind as those who will not see.

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    There are none so blind as those who will not see.
    link to the law he broke.

    You can't.

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    guns need to be banned, you racist assholes like cosmiccowboy are destroying the nation with your hate filled , racist, pasty, hurtful, ignorant hearts.

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    guns need to be banned, you racist assholes like cosmiccowboy are destroying the nation with your hate filled , racist, pasty, hurtful, ignorant hearts.
    Go yourself you ignorant asshole.

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    Go yourself you ignorant asshole.
    Why are you racist?

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    Why are you stupid and illiterate?

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    link to the law he broke.

    You can't.
    Sure I can.

    (d) It shall be unlawful for any person to sell or otherwise dispose
    of any firearm or ammunition to any person knowing or having reasonable
    cause to believe that such person--
    (1) is under indictment for, or has been convicted in any court
    of, a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one
    year;
    (2) is a fugitive from justice;
    (3) is an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled
    substance (as defined in section 102 of the Controlled Substances
    Act (21 U.S.C. 802));
    (4) has been adjudicated as a mental defective or has been
    committed to any mental ins ution;
    (5) who, being an alien--
    (A) is illegally or unlawfully in the United States; or

    (B) except as provided in subsection (y)(2), has been
    admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa (as that
    term is defined in section 101(a)(26) of the Immigration and
    Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1101(a)(26)));
    http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-...Cite:+18USC922

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    cowboy on the quest to arm illegal aliens.

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    cowboy on the quest to arm illegal aliens.

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    The guy he sold it to was a Texas resident and presented a Valid Texas Drivers licence. I know the law. The law doesn't say anything about straw purchases on individual sales.

    fail

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    Actually it's Cowboy on the quest to make law enforcement follow the LAW. The guy got railroaded by the ATF on a bogus charge.

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    The guy he sold it to was a Texas resident and presented a Valid Texas Drivers licence. I know the law. The law doesn't say anything about straw purchases on individual sales.

    fail
    He should have taken the gun back when he realized it wasn't for the person who produced the ID.

    You don't know the law. Written codes are not the only source of law.

    Fail.

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    He should have taken the gun back when he realized it wasn't for the person who produced the ID.

    You don't know the law.

    Fail.
    why would bubba do that? he said, loudly, like a cowboy, that he'd sell a gun to anyone.

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    The guy he sold it to was a Texas resident and presented a Valid Texas Drivers licence. I know the law. The law doesn't say anything about straw purchases on individual sales.

    fail
    I'm not fully up to speed, but did the seller have a su ion that it was a straw purchase? There are probably rules about that. (In the same way that an alcohol vendor would probably be in trouble if he sees a person talking to some kids outside, then comes in to buy a case of beer).

    That's a gray area, to be sure.

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    I'm not fully up to speed, but did the seller have a su ion that it was a straw purchase? There are probably rules about that. (In the same way that an alcohol vendor would probably be in trouble if he sees a person talking to some kids outside, then comes in to buy a case of beer).

    That's a gray area, to be sure.
    He probably had a su ion but the law says absolutely nothing about straw purchases. In fact, the law does not require any actual verification. Legally, just asking "is it OK for you to purchase guns?" is adequate.

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    He should have taken the gun back when he realized it wasn't for the person who produced the ID.

    You don't know the law. Written codes are not the only source of law.

    Fail.
    Oh OK...he violated Chumps unwritten law.

    Which means Chump couldn't find a law he violated.

    Thanks for playing.

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    He probably had a su ion but the law says absolutely nothing about straw purchases. In fact, the law does not require any actual verification. Legally, just asking "is it OK for you to purchase guns?" is adequate.
    You have all the relevant case law that would apply here?

    That would be interesting to read.

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    You have all the relevant case law that would apply here?

    That would be interesting to read.
    You are the challenger. Prove me wrong.

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    Oh OK...he violated Chumps unwritten law.

    Which means Chump couldn't find a law he violated.

    Thanks for playing.
    Actually, I provided a link to the black letter law he violated and you asked for.

    You are the one claiming there is some case law that vindicates him.

    Give me a link to that ruling.

    Thanks in advance.

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    You are the challenger. Prove me wrong.
    Sorry, you are challenging the federal code.

    Prove it wrong.

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    He probably had a su ion but the law says absolutely nothing about straw purchases. In fact, the law does not require any actual verification. Legally, just asking "is it OK for you to purchase guns?" is adequate.
    Ok, let's throw a hypothetical out there. (I'm just playing Devil's Advocate.)

    Two men walk up to a seller, and one of them says, " o, here is my ID, and I would like to purchase this gun for my friend. His name is Abdul Ja-quim, and he is a terrorist. He plans on using this gun to shoot a government official. How much will that gun cost?"

    Now, there may not be a law on the books that specifically prohibits this, but I doubt the scenario presented above would make the sale of that firearm illegal.

    What if we made it slightly more realistic, and the purchaser just said, " o, I'd like to purchase this gun for my friend, who is not allowed by law to purchase guns."? Would that be kosher?

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    Actually, I provided a link to the black letter law he violated and you asked for.

    You are the one claiming there is some case law that vindicates him.

    Give me a link to that ruling.

    Thanks in advance.
    No you didn't. He didn't sell a gun to an illegal alien. He sold the gun to a Texas resident with a valid drivers license.

    Next?

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    No you didn't. He didn't sell a gun to an illegal alien. He sold the gun to a Texas resident with a valid drivers license.

    Next?
    what did he do after he saw the guy hand the gun to his friend?

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