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    How does the argument not make sense. You are looking way to hard into what I am saying.

    Scola is better than Splitter. It is obvious. Everyone that watches basketball knows this... therefore Scola makes more money. I am not saying that this is always the case but it should be and regarding these 2 players it is. That is all I was ever implying. Both just got new contracts... one player was 5 years 50 mil the other 3 years 10 mil.
    You just find reassuring the he who makes the most money is the best professional.
    In the case of Splitter-Scola, fine.

    Just do NOT look at the salaries of the other players you have seen today.
    Oberto>>>Varejao (7 millions/year).
    Delfino>>>>>>>>>Barbosa (7 millions/year)
    Huertas>Prigioni (twice as much money).

    So there are RULES to this exception.

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    Like those few days would make a difference ...


    for those who says that it's good for splitter cause he has less games to get injured.
    Well spurs can keep him off the camp - he can get injury there as well
    These few additional days of rest are welcomed for a player that has ended late his season last year and who has played with his NT this summer.

    The difference between trainign camp and the WC is that few more games at the WC won't help him at all being a better Spur while playing in the training camp will help Splitter being a better Spur.

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    The bad news is that Mahinmi has a couple of extra days to get ready for the Mavs training camp.
    He's had a long season practicing with the Spurs and practiced most of the summer for the NT.
    poor guy needs some rest.

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    And Scubla is one of the biggest basketball loser ever.

    He won nothing in Europe when he was Tau main player. Years after years, he choked. When he left Tau and Splitter take his spot as the main player, Tau won 2 Spanish league in 3 years.

    In Houston, he turns a playoff team into a lottery team.

    And it's not some two weeks long summer tournament ridding Ginobili's that change a damn thing.

    Scrubla is the Latino version of Zach Randolph. Empty stats and, on top of that, he is now overpaid.

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    How does the argument not make sense. You are looking way to hard into what I am saying.

    Scola is better than Splitter. It is obvious. Everyone that watches basketball knows this... therefore Scola makes more money. I am not saying that this is always the case but it should be and regarding these 2 players it is. That is all I was ever implying. Both just got new contracts... one player was 5 years 50 mil the other 3 years 10 mil.
    When Scola first came to the NBA, Houston offered Luis a contract of about $9.5M for 3 years before his contract expired this off-season. That's approximately the amount the Spurs offered Splitter this summer for his first year.

    Scola is already a proven NBA player who is currently 30 yrs old, so of course there is not suprise why Houston offered him 5 years for $50M. Splitter, on the other hand, has yet to play an NBA game, and he's about 5 yrs younger than Scola.

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    And Scubla is one of the biggest basketball loser ever.

    He won nothing in Europe when he was Tau main player. Years after years, he choked. When he left Tau and Splitter take his spot as the main player, Tau won 2 Spanish league in 3 years.

    In Houston, he turns a playoff team into a lottery team.

    And it's not some two weeks long summer tournament ridding Ginobili's that change a damn thing.

    Scrubla is the Latino version of Zach Randolph. Empty stats and, on top of that, he is now overpaid.
    Scola's Career highlights and awards

    *2000 Spanish League Rookie of the Year
    *2000 FIBA Americas Under-20 Championship MVP
    *2005 Spanish Supercup MVP
    *2ื Spanish League MVP 2005, 2007
    *All-Euroleague Second Team 2005
    *2ื All-Euroleague First Team 2006, 2007
    *2ื FIBA Americas Championship MVP 2007, 2009
    *2008 NBA All-Rookie First Team

    So......

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    if you ask me...one of them should be fired.

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    And Scubla is one of the biggest basketball loser ever.

    He won nothing in Europe when he was Tau main player. Years after years, he choked. When he left Tau and Splitter take his spot as the main player, Tau won 2 Spanish league in 3 years.

    In Houston, he turns a playoff team into a lottery team.

    And it's not some two weeks long summer tournament ridding Ginobili's that change a damn thing.

    Scrubla is the Latino version of Zach Randolph. Empty stats and, on top of that, he is now overpaid.
    You can't blame Scola for Houston. Scola is a very good player. He has some holes in his game, but if you put him on a good team, he can help. He plays hard and has some nice skill.

    Yao's & T-Mac's injuries killed that team along with the mediocre signings. That is not Scola's fault.

    But the point about Tiago with Tau and Scola with Tau is interesting.

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    Scola's Career highlights and awards

    *2000 Spanish League Rookie of the Year
    *2000 FIBA Americas Under-20 Championship MVP
    *2005 Spanish Supercup MVP
    *2ื Spanish League MVP 2005, 2007
    *All-Euroleague Second Team 2005
    *2ื All-Euroleague First Team 2006, 2007
    *2ื FIBA Americas Championship MVP 2007, 2009
    *2008 NBA All-Rookie First Team

    So......
    So, as a fan, what makes you happy, is when players win personal awards?

    I'm a strange dude but I like, when the team I root for, win championship.

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    So, as a fan, what makes you happy, is when players win personal awards?

    I'm a strange dude but I like, when the team I root for, win championship.
    Wiki:
    "Although Scola did not manage to win the Euroleague championship with Baskonia, he did win with them every major Spanish League le, winning a Spanish ACB League championship in 2002, 3 Spanish Cups in 2002, 2004, 2006, and 3 Spanish Supercups in 2005, 2006, 2007."

    The only thing he didn't win with TAU was the Euroleague. So you can never say he's "one of the biggest basketball loser ever", that "He won nothing in Europe when he was Tau main player", and that "he choked".

    Come on, people!

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    Wiki:
    "Although Scola did not manage to win the Euroleague championship with Baskonia, he did win with them every major Spanish League le, winning a Spanish ACB League championship in 2002, 3 Spanish Cups in 2002, 2004, 2006, and 3 Spanish Supercups in 2005, 2006, 2007."

    The only thing he didn't win with TAU was the Euroleague. So you can never say he's "one of the biggest basketball loser ever", that "He won nothing in Europe when he was Tau main player", and that "he choked".

    Come on, people!
    Do you know really something about Spanish basketball?

    FYI,
    Spanish Spercup is a meaningless two days preseason tournament.
    Spanish Cup is a little less meaningless since it's a four days promotional mid season tournament.
    The only thing that truly matters is the ACB le.

    Scrubla won the ACB le in 2002 while he wasn't the main player in Tau. After that, when he became the "franchise" player, he choked years after years.

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    And Scubla is one of the biggest basketball loser ever.

    He won nothing in Europe when he was Tau main player. Years after years, he choked. When he left Tau and Splitter take his spot as the main player, Tau won 2 Spanish league in 3 years.

    In Houston, he turns a playoff team into a lottery team.

    And it's not some two weeks long summer tournament ridding Ginobili's that change a damn thing.

    Scrubla is the Latino version of Zach Randolph. Empty stats and, on top of that, he is now overpaid.
    hum it's a little bit harsh. Scola is a very solid player, he is humble, takes the job the coach gives him w/o complaining: starter, off the bench, role player, go to go player etc...
    Moreover and except if I forget something he did win les with Tau.

    Scola is a solid NBA player and he is better than Splitter.

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    This is pointless. Keep thinking he's the biggest basketball loser ever, no problem for me.

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    Really? Are you ing sure? No in way....

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    hum it's a little bit harsh.
    Off course, it's a little harsh.

    When I see all the crybabies whining about Scola and saying huge stupidities like trading Scola cost Spurs some les, my only wish is to bash him.

    The Scola trade was a bad one. Scola is a good player and would have help Spurs but acting like he is some kind of basketball god is just plain dumb.

    And trashing Scola is a little a sentimental thing for me. whottt was an awesome poster and be has left ST because of some bags. I don't want that he came back one day here and see a Scola thread without some bashing. There is a legacy.

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    whottt

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    It's great so see him back.

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    Off course, it's a little harsh.

    When I see all the crybabies whining about Scola and saying huge stupidities like trading Scola cost Spurs some les, my only wish is to bash him.

    The Scola trade was a bad one. Scola is a good player and would have help Spurs but acting like he is some kind of basketball god is just plain dumb.

    And trashing Scola is a little a sentimental thing for me. whottt was an awesome poster and be has left ST because of some bags. I don't want that he came back one day here and see a Scola thread without some bashing. There is a legacy.
    I didn't know the sentimental thing even it sounds gay I respect that.

    The Scola story hurts for sure but I do agree on the fact that the difference between 4 rings and 5 or 6 is not Scola.

    Spurs FO is one of the best in the NBA and the scola story doesn't change that. Now the bonner contract...

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    scola and pop and rc did not get along


    scola did not want to be a spur
    case shut
    just like elway did not want to play for the team that drafted him
    he did not want to play east of miss.. river

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    lol, expression on Oberto's face

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    NBA PM: Best Trade Ever?
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    Scola Rubs Salt On The Wound: The San Antonio Spurs typically don't find themselves on the losing side of deals. They've been one of the league's most dominant teams over the past 10 years largely in part to their front office's brilliance and patience. They've managed to win four championships since 1999 all while staying under the luxury tax and making minor tweaks rather than major moves. Limiting spending is a philosophy that has held a lot of franchises back, but rarely affected the Spurs until 2007 when they dealt Luis Scola, the best power forward not in the NBA at the time, to the Houston Rockets. Back then it was something that the Spurs looked at as necessary, but it's something that they really regret now.

    After years of failing to reach a buyout agreement with Scola's club overseas the Spurs gave up on trying to add him to the team. They felt with the roster they had in place, which featured a newly re-signed Matt Bonner and Fabricio Oberto along with Ian Mahinmi, that there wasn't room for Scola or forward Jackie Butler. So they traded them to Houston for Vassilis Spanoulis and a second round pick that eventually turned into France's Nando De Colo, who averaged eight points and two assists in the World Championships.

    "As an organization we felt responsible to let Luis pursue his dream of the NBA and this was the best opportunity to realize his value," said Buford back in 2007. "With our roster intact it would appear unlikely that neither Butler nor Scola would impact our rotation."

    Count that as one of the rare instances where Buford was dead wrong because since finally making his way to the NBA in 2007 Scola has been flat-out productive. Meanwhile De Colo and Spanoulis haven't played a game in the NBA. Scola has yet to miss a game and has steadily improved each and every year. He averaged a career best 16 points and eight rebounds last season and has carried over his strong play to the FIBA World Championships.

    Earlier today there was a matchup between Argentina and Brazil that greatly intrigued the Spurs and their fan base. It featured Scola taking on Tiago Splitter, who will be making his NBA debut with San Antonio this season after being drafted by them in 2007. Drafting Splitter also factored into the Spurs decision to trade Scola, so a strong performance by him would have helped ease the pain.

    Over the years Spurs head coach Gregg Popovich has made no secret about his anger over how things played out with Scola. He once said that it made him so upset that he wanted to spit and he probably felt just as fired up today after watching the show that Scola put on.

    Scola continued on his tournament-MVP pace with 37 points, nine rebounds, and three assists. Splitter put forth 10 points and five rebounds himself, but it was very clear as to who the superior player was. Splitter will ultimately determine his worth to the Spurs during the regular season, but fantasies about how great Scola could have been as Spur live on. He had 14 points in the fourth quarter to help lead Argentina past Brazil, further cementing himself as the best player in the tournament.

    While San Antonio thinks about what could have been the Rockets are sitting pretty with one of the best power forwards in the league that they got for an absolute steal. Coach Popovich suggested forming a trade committee that could veto lopsided deals when the Memphis Grizzlies traded All-Star power forward Pau Gasol to the Los Angeles Lakers. But in that deal Memphis landed Marc Gasol who has developed into a very solid starting center and the cap space to trade for Zach Randolph, who had an All-Star year for them in 09-10. All the Spurs got for Scola, an ideal player to put alongside Tim Duncan inside, was some cash and two players who will never see the court with Duncan. Looking back there's no question which deal was more uneven and today just helped further illustrate that.
    gay

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    just saw this WTF...



    An Argentina supporter displays a tattoo of what he claimed was an image of Osama Bin Laden during their FIBA Basketball World Championship game against Brazil in Istanbul September 7, 2010.

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    Scola thread กกกกกกกกกกกกกกกกกกกกกกก

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    this thread is stupid

    since drafting scola, how many rings did we win without having him on our roster?

    fkn thread fail, move on, nothing to read here

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    just saw this WTF...



    An Argentina supporter displays a tattoo of what he claimed was an image of Osama Bin Laden during their FIBA Basketball World Championship game against Brazil in Istanbul September 7, 2010.
    In a big part of the world Osama isn't the bad guy. USA Goverment are.

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