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na. I don't do stalking.
Do my posts frighten you?
but there's a possibility he is in Heaven.
na. I don't do stalking.
Do my posts frighten you?
Oh I have to believe in order to understand Christianity? I thought you argue that we have free will. What if I understand but have willfully rejected god? You're so foolish but what makes it so entertaining is your ego on the subject. If anyone knows egos its me, and yours is quite god like.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL I thought I asked for the irony on the side.while your scenario is possible, it's not very plausible...
had Hitler genuinely repented of his actions he would have surrendered to the allied forces to face justice... besidesredzero's implied assertion was that Hitler commited his attrocities under the Christian banner. Which is most definitely not the case... Your smarter than this Manny...
Actually he did not claim that at all. You missed his point completely because he was claiming the opposite of that.
This matter won't get addressed by any of us then... because ultimately no explanation will change how you perceive GOD... you'll just move on to the next perceived incongruence... and so forth... and so forth... you've already closed your heart and your mind to the possibility of GOD's existence... so why bother...
God doesn't actually believe that people can be other people's property and that beating a slave to death is okay, God put it in the Bible for no reason.When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)
It will never be if nobody ever bothers to answer a simple ing question.
Humor me, because I want to know how God can give human beings guidelines on owning/treating slaves and still not condone slavery.because ultimately no explanation will change how you perceive GOD...
How can I when nobody bothers to answer my first question?you'll just move on to the next perceived incongruence... and so forth... and so forth...
I haven't closed my mind. I am asking for evidence for God's existence, and I haven't gotten any yet.you've already closed your heart and your mind to the possibility of GOD's existence... so why bother...
Your post doesn't make any sense...
redzero claimed Hitler was a Christian as a counter to someone's claim that some of humanities greatest atrocities were done under a GODless banner... in the case of Stalin and Mao (overt atheism) in the case of others (like Hitler) just a general case of GODlessness...
So either he comitted them in GOD's name... or not.
I think we both know the answer.
Since when did Stalin and Mao commit atrocities for atheism? Did Mao's complete failure to understand agriculture result from not believing in God?
Your comprehension of that verse is grotesquely biased... GOD stipulated under the Old Covenant that punishment was on order for those that killed their slaves...
The answer is quite simple but requires knowledge of doctrine... I alluded to it earlier but you simply scoffed it away... (Old Covenant =not= New Covenant).
GOD gave us Law as a means to protect us from each other. But no man, how ever hard they try is able to keep all of it... Since we can't keep it. We are cursed by it.
GOD then took on a human form in JESUS and as a human managed to keep all of the law... he fullfilled it and by doing so, condemned us all to death. Except that He willingly took our place, such that when we enter heaven GOD doesn't hold our actions against us... He will only see Christ's blood.
The laws therefore were an imperfect system that paved the way for grace.
The law hence, and any mention of slaves, pork, unclean things or other trivial matters are no longer relevant today.
GOD's Justice and Holiness, on the other hand, has been the same forever.
David was a man after God's own heart.
ummm... fail.therefore GOD condones polygamy...
ummm... no.
2 Samuel 12
7 And Nathan said to David, Thou art the man. Thus saith the LORD God of 1Israel, I anointed thee king over Israel, and I delivered thee out of the hand of Saul;
8 And I gave thee thy master's house, and thy master's wives into thy bosom,
Hence, the possibility of Hitler sitting at the right hand of Jesus.
I'm sure you've read the Septuagint version in Koine greek... you'd be surprised by the lack of plurality...
Right hand? hyperbole much...?
Besides, I've already told Manny that while possible, the notion that Hitler genuinely repented is not very plausible.
yet another derailing tangent from your lunch box that never stops giving...
so the King James version is not an ordained version?
Are we to only read the Septuagint version in Koine greek?
Why don't they have the Septuagint version in Koine greek in the pews at my parents' Baptist church?
not very plausible, but possible. Right hand because God the father is already sitting at the left......I guess the Holy Spirit is just floating around with no chair to sit in.
meanwhile, the humanitarian donating his/her life to helping feeding/healing/clothing/housing starving kids in Africa is going to because of his/her non-belief.
Great God
Why would that change anything? If you can take one wife, can't you take the whole lot?
What would be the plural (in English) in this case? A nag of wives? [/rimshot]
another tangent still...
One should study the Scriptures with as many of the resources available.
but... let me guess... you really don't care. You're bitter that your upbringing failed you... (let me introduce a tangent of my own)... pity.
1.) God's morals are supposed to be unchanging, so if it is okay to beat a slave to death in the Old Testament, it should be okay in the New Testament.
Here is something from the New Testament about the Old Testament:
Pretty clear there.2) All of the vicious Old Testament laws will be binding forever. "It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid." (Luke 16:17 NAB)
And he condoned slavery, killing sexuals, unruly children and nonbelievers.GOD gave us Law as a means to protect us from each other.
God, who is perfect and therefore unchanging, made those laws. Are you saying that he is imperfect?The laws therefore were an imperfect system that paved the way for grace.
Bull .The law hence, and any mention of slaves, pork, unclean things or other trivial matters are no longer relevant today.
Here are passages from the New Testament that tell people NOT to disregard the laws of the Old Testament:
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place." (Matthew 5:17 NAB)"All scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for refutation, for correction, and for training in righteousness..." (2 Timothy 3:16 NAB)"Know this first of all, that there is no prophecy of scripture that is a matter of personal interpretation, for no prophecy ever came through human will; but rather human beings moved by the holy Spirit spoke under the influence of God." (2 Peter 20-21 NAB)"Whoever curses father or mother shall die" (Mark 7:10 NAB)He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death. (Matthew 15:4-7)Please, bull your way out of interpreting these passages at face value....the scripture cannot be broken. --Jesus Christ, John 10:35
It's a yes or no question
Is the King James the ordained word of God?
Yes......or......no.
I post because I care.
You aren't posting from the Septuagint version in Koine greek.
Pity.
I'm only stating the obvious...
afterall they ordered the burning of all Christian churches and banned the practice of Christianity (which had roots in Lenin's own philosophical roots)...
My brother-in-law's grandfather escaped from Russia to Istanbul during Stalin's regime...
If you did, you wouldn't push for answers...
Your only interested in going on another strawman journey...
I push for answers because I care. If I didn't care I wouldn't be asking questions.
Please show specifically where I posted a strawman argument.
Also, please answer the following simple question:
and it's a yes or no question.
Is the King James the ordained word of God?
And? They didn't do it in the name of atheism.
EDIT: And even if they did, it would be irrelevant. Atheism, by definition, is the lack of belief in gods. Period. There is no dogma. There are no instructions.
You didn't even read what I posted so what's the point. I said I understood it, barley. Calling you a troll is because you are trolling and not looking to have a real conversation which is was I was trying to give you.
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