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    U.S. names Asian carp czar
    September 8, 2010 10:57 AM | No Comments
    The White House has tapped a former leader of the Indiana Department of Natural Resources and the Indiana Wildlife Federation as the Asian carp czar to oversee the federal response to keeping the invasive species out of the Great Lakes.

    On a conference call today with Illinois Sen. Durbin and other congressional leaders, President Obama's Council on Environmental Quality announced the selection of John Goss to lead the near $80 million, multi-pronged federal attack against Asian carp.
    "This is a serious challenge, a serious threat," Durbin said. "When it comes to the Asian carp threat, we are not in denial. We are not in a go-slow mode. We are in a full attack, full-speed ahead mode. We want to stop this carp from advancing."

    Asian carp, which have steadily moved toward Chicago since the 1990s, present a challenge for scientists and fish biologists. The fish are aggressive eaters, consuming as much as 40 percent of their body weight a day in plankton, and frequently beat out native fish for food, threatening those populations.

    They are also prolific breeders with no natural predators in the U.S. The fish were imported in the 1970s to help wastewater treatment facilities in the South keep their retention ponds clean. Mississippi River flooding allowed the fish to escape and then move into the Missouri and Illinois rivers. Some species can grow to more than 100 pounds.

    The challenge for Goss, who was director of the Indiana DNR under two governors and served for four years as the executive director of the Indiana National Wildlife Federation, will be to make sure millions in federal money is spent efficiently, to oversee several on-going studies -- including one looking into the possibility of permanently shutting down the Chicago waterway system linking Lake Michigan to the Mississippi River--and to bring together Great Lakes states currently locked in a courtroom battle over the response to the Asian carp threat.

    "Certainly there are some legal questions that are in process, but there has been a history already of good cooperation among the states," Goss said. "I believe that will be one of my strengths, talking at the level of the department of natural resources in each of the states so that we can very carefully coordinate our efforts."

    Today also marks the second day of what is expected to be a three-day hearing in federal court in Chicago to deal with Asian carp. Michigan and four other Great Lakes states are suing the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers and the Water Reclamation District of Greater Chicago to try and force closure of two shipping locks in the Chicago waterway system that could serve as a barrier to keep Asian carp from entering Lake Michigan.

    Testimony on Tuesday focused on the reliability of the environmental DNA research that has been used to track the movement of Asian carp through the Chicago Sanitary and Shipping Canal as they have inched closer to Lake Michigan. The architect of the research, University of Notre Dame scientist David Lodge, said the method is sound and that Asian carp pose a "a very imminent risk of invasion." He added that such "invasions are often irreversible."

    Attorneys for the defense countered that the DNA research has never been used in this manner and was unreliable. They argued that even scientists disagree about the likelihood that Asian carp are capable of sustaining a large and destructive population if allowed to enter the Great Lakes.

    --Joel Hood

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    We all know how well the Army CoE projects turn out, so let's believe their defense attorneys and let the carp into the Lake Michigan. Maybe the carp will eat the zebra and quagga mussels.

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    Ok... honestly, this sounds like an Onion article. I'm sure the Asian carp presents a serious challenge... but nowhere near the challenge that terrorists/economy/various number of other MORE serious challenges present.

    It is another example of unintended consequences, and their very real effects.

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    Ok... honestly, this sounds like an Onion article. I'm sure the Asian carp presents a serious challenge... but nowhere near the challenge that terrorists/economy/various number of other MORE serious challenges present.

    It is another example of unintended consequences, and their very real effects.
    LOL, does sound pretty ludicrous, doesn't it? Unfortunately, it's real.

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    Ok... honestly, this sounds like an Onion article. I'm sure the Asian carp presents a serious challenge... but nowhere near the challenge that terrorists/economy/various number of other MORE serious challenges present.

    It is another example of unintended consequences, and their very real effects.
    This whole administration has become an Onion article.

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    This whole administration has become an Onion article.
    Message board Islamophobe insists Saddam had WMDs; says "They're still translating the do ents!"

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    LOL, does sound pretty ludicrous, doesn't it? Unfortunately, it's real.

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    http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2...carp-czar.html
    I think we should name "Spurstalk Czars". Galileo can be the "Conspiracy Czar", CC, you can be the "Ranchhand Czar", Chumpdumper can be the "Question Czar", BoutonsD can be the "Insult Czar"... etc etc

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    its not just the carp

    also the snakehead fish is invading the southern part of the USA and its going to completely annihilate the aquatic environments as it spreads....

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    the Asian carp are a real problem, not an Onion.

    The carp have spread through the Mississippi and its tributaries, depleting native fish. It's a disaster.

    There's a program about it on one of the serious cable channels. crazy stuff. carp, zebra mussels, quagga mussels, snakeheads, kudzu, tea baggers, Repugs, bubbas, libertarians, neo-c*nts. invasive species will destroy America.

    We need to figure out to harvest the Asian carp and feed them to US cats rather the depleting ocean fish. Repugs, bubbas, neo-c*nts, conservatives, tea baggers, gun nuts would make good organic fertilizer. mix them in with pig/cow/chicken and nobody would know the difference.

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    I should think we should name "Spurstalk Czars". Galileo can be the "Conspiracy Czar", CC, you can be the "Ranchhand Czar", Chumpdumper can be the "Question Czar", BoutonsD can be the "Insult Czar"... etc etc
    C'mon, I gotta know...

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    the Asian carp are a real problem, not an Onion.

    The carp have spread through the Mississippi and its tributaries, depleting native fish. It's a disaster.

    There's a program about it on one of the serious cable channels. crazy stuff. carp, zebra mussels, quagga mussels, snakeheads, kudzu, tea baggers, Repugs, bubbas, libertarians, neo-c*nts. invasive species will destroy America.

    We need to figure out to harvest the Asian carp and feed them to US cats rather the depleting ocean fish. Repugs, bubbas, neo-c*nts, conservatives, tea baggers, gun nuts would make good organic fertilizer. mix them in with pig/cow/chicken and nobody would know the difference.
    I don't doubt it's a problem. I just think it's silly to name a "czar" for that position. Can't we just have a project head? I know it's semantics... just seems a silly name to me.

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    C'mon, I gotta know...
    Yoni, you can be "Obama-basher Czar" unless you'd prefer another le.

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    Yoni, you can be "Obama-basher Czar" unless you'd prefer another le.

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    I guess the czar is supposed to knock some heads, since concerned heads are two govt agencies, and more than one state, even Canada.

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    I don't doubt it's a problem. I just think it's silly to name a "czar" for that position. Can't we just have a project head? I know it's semantics... just seems a silly name to me.
    They aren't actually named czars.

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    I wonder if the Asian Carp can get a Texas drivers license.

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    They aren't actually named czars.
    Ah. I assumed he did, by the quote marks in the le. If he didn't actually name him that, then no big deal.

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    I think the larger question is why is Obama bothering to appoint a specific person for this problem. Should the Interior Secretary have recognized the need for this and handled it?

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    I think the larger question is why is Obama bothering to appoint a specific person for this problem. Should the Interior Secretary have recognized the need for this and handled it?
    A Tsar is like a 5 star general who doesn't have to go through a senate confirmation process.

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    A Tsar is like a 5 star general who doesn't have to go through a senate confirmation process.
    Actually many of them do.

    You are ignorant.

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    Actually many of them do.
    Any idea how many?

    Just curious.

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    I wonder if the Asian Carp can get a Texas drivers license.
    Then illegal aliens could bring the carp to Texas gun shows to assist in a purchase....

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    Any idea how many?

    Just curious.
    About a third from what I've seen.

    I doubt the Asian carp czar needs such approval.

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    About a third from what I've seen.
    Thanks.

    I doubt the Asian carp czar needs such approval.
    One would hope.

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    I think the larger question is why is Obama bothering to appoint a specific person for this problem. Should the Interior Secretary have recognized the need for this and handled it?
    Bureaucratic bungling, refusal/diffusion of responsibility, turf wars (Interior vs multi-level local/state/federal jurisdictions for surface water, with Army CoE owning all US surface water)

    One person with this responsibility exclusively and visibly is not a bad idea, but I'm sure you think anything the govt does (except invade non-white, non-Christian countries for their natural resources) is bad.
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