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Boozer playing center
Bulls shouldn't pull the trigger on this imo. They'll have a large hole at the center spot.
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I'm kind of interested if the Bulls would take Melo and give up probably their best big defensively and rebounding. I think this is a tough decision. Of course Melo's better overall, but the bulls would have to rely on Boozer playing center.
Boozer playing center
Bulls shouldn't pull the trigger on this imo. They'll have a large hole at the center spot.
I wouldn't do it if I were the Bulls and I don't suspect the Bulls will do it, either.
They may already have a go-to perimeter player on a championship caliber team (I don't think the team or Rose is at that level yet, but the potential is there).
Noah is too valuable a player and plays too valuable a position to give up.
They do also have Kurt Thomas, but I doubt he'll play more than 15 minutes a game.
They're toast if he even plays more than 10 minutes a game.
That would be re ed IMHO
Considering the lack of decent centers in the NBA, they better not pull the trigger
boozer is ok against everyone except gasol and dwightBoozer playing center
Bulls shouldn't pull the trigger on this imo. They'll have a large hole at the center spot.
he is actually not that bad
Yeah he can be a nice stop gap but those bigs are from the teams that the bulls need to beat. The Bulls can't go to war with only Boozer.
Giving up Joakim Noah wouldn't be a deal breaker for me if I were making decisions for the Bulls. It would be the fact that Melo could leave the next summer. If I were guaranteed to be able to sign Melo to an extension, then it would be worth giving up Noah. Noah is a good, young center, but Melo's impact on the game would be worth it to me as long as it would be for a long term situation. But giving up Noah with a good possibility of losing Melo the next summer anyway isn't worth it.
What Jamstone said. If Melo agrees upon an extension, then I'd trade a role player at center for a top 10 player.
Maybe Noah for Melo. Not Deng and Noah for Melo. Preferably not either.
Come to think of it, Carmelo's contract situation is much much messier than LeBron's. Bron flirted but started to when he was actually a free-agent. Melo's asking out without a definite guarantee of a long-term tenure with the acquiring team.
I try not to pay attention to what the Suns do/don't do anymore.
I agree with JamStone, giving up Noah for Melo is worth it only if he agrees to an extension with Chicago. Noah is a young, energetic, great rebounding center and there is not enough of them in the NBA it seems these days. I really don't see the Bulls agreeing to it unless they can have a guarantee from Melo that he will stay long term. Replacing Noah would be tough but to get better sometimes you have to give something up. I am not sure if any trade will go down, it seems unlikely, but who knows.
Yeah Deng and Noah is giving up way to much, Denver will get the better end of this trade especially if Anthony doesn't stay in Chicago.
Lets just say Melo goes to the Bulls, wouldn't that defense get any weaker? Melo might have improved his D in Denver, but I doubt he can he can provide enough D for the Bulls to contend against Miami, Boston, or Orlando. I believe that Noah's D is one to consider. Sure he's undersized, but he does very well pressuring opposing players on defense.
What makes you think Damp wants to go to Chicago instead of Miami? Miami will probably be all over him if he was bought out of his contract
Yeah luva is right, Chicago would be dumb to even pass up Deng + Noah. Deng is worthless IMO. He's injury prone, doesn't really do anything well, and it's safe to say him reaching his potential is something that will never happen. Joakim Noah is easily replaceable, he doesn't have the talent to be anything more than the role player he is.
Top 10 players you can build your team around aren't on the trading block very often. When they are, and the team trading them is asking for two easily replaceable players, you pull the trigger.
Agreed. But Chicago is supposedly on Melo's short list of teams.
No-brainer for Chicago. They can try to trade for someone like Varejao to replace most of what Noah does. But Melo is a franchise player. They messed up trying to get Kobe and later on Pau by going cheap. No need to strike out 3 times.
Since John Paxson would rather get sodomized by a hatchet than trade a player he drafted, this trade isn't gonna happen. It'll be the latest case of Paxson overrating players on his team and their potential, and once again the result will be them turning down a chance at a franchise player. As long as that egotistical is GM of the Bulls, they won't be contending for anything.
Not with that big gaping hole at the 2-guard. Brewer and Thomas are both bums, and no team is going anywhere not getting offensive production from 2 positions. Trading Deng for Melo has them competing for the EC. Trading Deng and Noah saves them a noose on the tree of woe.
How the does he even have a job anymore. Starting with his 1st season as GM:
2004: lottery team
2005: lost in 1st round
2006: lost in 1st round
2007: lost in 2nd round
2008: lottery team
2009: lost in 1st round
2010: lost in 1st round
In 7 seasons as GM, he's only had 2 teams that were above .500, 0 teams that won 50 games, and 1 team that made it out of the 1st round. He's fired 4 coaches during that span, had too many top 10 picks to count, and has turned away several trades that woulda netted him all star level players.
Other than hustle points, what offensive production does Noah give you at center? Noah is a role player. They aren't contending for as is and won't be anytime soon with the current roster they have, the nucleus of Rose/Melo actually gives them something to build around.
Screw the Bulls.
Houston can put together a better package than that crap. The clippers and Nets can also outbid the Bulls.
Noah is interesting but not enough to get Melo. Adding Deng is a negative because of his long contract.
Noah isn't a scorer, but just on his style of play he'll give you double digit offense on a high% against any playoff defense, no matter how great. Kurt Thomas won't. Dampier, should you get him, won't. When you start getting to the elite teams in the 2nd round and further, players who can be exposed on one end of the floor, will be.
You trade for Melo without giving up Noah, you only have one player on the court who an opponent can turn into a liability (Brewer or Korver). You trade Noah along with Deng, now you have two.
I agree that the Bulls aren't winning a le either way, but they're a of a lot closer and some lucky breaks away with both Noah and Melo.
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