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    dangerous floater Winehole23's Avatar
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    Obama isn't trying to spread democracy with the barrel of a gun...
    As long as we occupy Afghanistan and Iraq, you're technically wrong about that.

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    are you high? JFK was not looking to get into another satellite war with the Soviet Union...he was doing everything to avoid it....
    By raiding Cuba and escalating the war in Vietnam, for example?

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    Are we talking about the same JFK?

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    Sanctions regimes are the kindergarten of war. We'll see about Iran, as well as Obama's promise to "leave" Iraq.
    We've sanctioned many countries without invading or bombing them. You can't equate that with the Bush administrations proactive behavior leading to the invasion of Iraq...

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    By raiding Cuba and escalating the war in Vietnam, for example?
    JFK wanted nothing to do with the Bay of Pigs, that was Bush41 and CIA

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    As far as Vietnam, there is plenty of evidence that JFK was leery of sending advisers to Vietnam and before he was murdered may have reached a secret agreement with the Soviets to avoid another Korea ....which was quietly retracted by LBJ and the American military industrial complex that LBJ later warned us about and Nixon feared...

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    JFK wanted nothing to do with the Bay of Pigs, that was Bush41 and CIA
    Please explain how Bush 41 had anything to do with that. I suggest you look at activities vs. time.

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    You mean the MIC runs this country? Shocking!

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    Please explain how Bush 41 had anything to do with that. I suggest you look at activities vs. time.
    Bush was rewarded with the top spot in the CIA afterward. Photos put him in Dallas the day of. Do some homework.

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    Bush was rewarded with the top spot in the CIA afterward. Photos put him in Dallas the day of. Do some homework.
    Coincidence. Which photo, what day? You ever think maybe he simply earned that position. You mean the ones with him and Eisenhower, who the bay of Pigs plan originated under?

    4/17/61...

    Let me get this strait. You're saying that three presidents and 15 years later, he is given the CIA spot? Get real. I see the twoofer sites claiming he was involved in the Kennedy assassination. Wow.. 7you really believe that one too?

    Hey... I have a bridge to sell cheap. It goes nowhere. Interested?

    So ing what. He was a minor player at nothing then. He wasn't a state representative until 1967 in the 7th district outside of Houston. From 1951 to 1964, he was a key investor of Zapata Oil. It had an offshoot called Zapata Off-Shore Company of which Bush was president of. He moved it to Houston in 1959, and it later became Penzoil.

    Rumor control from you conspiracy theorists have it as a CIA connection. I guess for you lib s who drink the Kook-Ade, it makes sense. Now his father, Prescott, was elected to the senate in 1952 and served till 1963.

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    9-11. Neo-con Christmas. I call it such because that day could conceivably be considered a new birth of sorts for the Neo Conservative movement. The tragedy that took place on 9-11-01 gave them the excuse they were always looking for to invade the middle east full stop and spread democracy the only way Neo-Cons know how, at the barrel of a gun. Not to mention all the returns they enjoyed from investments in KBR, Lockheed, Northrop Grumman, and the like.

    So to you I say, "Happy Neo-Con Christmas!"

    very original

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    Hey... I have a bridge to sell cheap. It goes nowhere. Interested?
    Sarah Palin is! Ba-dum-CH!

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    Reagan was less of a neocon than JFK.

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    Reagan was less of a neocon than JFK.
    True. When faced with Islamic terra, Reagan cut and ran.

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    Not that there's necessarily anything wrong with that. There wasn't a vital US interest at play in Lebanon's civil war.

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    Not that there's necessarily anything wrong with that. There wasn't a vital US interest at play in Lebanon's civil war.
    He emboldened the terraists! I bet they built a mosque a couple of blocks away!

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    True. When faced with Islamic terra, Reagan cut and ran.
    True. It was the smart thing to do.

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    True. It was the smart thing to do.
    They celebrated in the streets! Reagan was a secret Muslim!


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    They celebrated in the streets! Reagan was a secret Muslim!
    Are you trying to bait me or trying to bait Darrin, Jack, etc.?

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    I'm on record stating that Obama is the antichrist therefore I have never called him a muslim because the antichrist would never be a secret muslim.

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    I'm on record stating that Obama is the antichrist
    Good for you.

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    It's more fun than "ooooh he's a scary muslim."

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    "ooooh he's a scary antichrist."

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    Whatever happened to the commie charge? I'm partial to that one. Obama! The Muslim, Antichrist, Commie (who's not even really an American)!

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