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How can you put Shaq above Kobe. Shaq may have had a better peak than Kobe but Kobe has more longjevity with lakers.
1. Magic Johnson. The driving force behind Showtime. 5 Championships, 3 Finals MVPs. What else can really be said?
2. Shaquille O'Neal. Now criminally underrated by Laker fans who still resent the way he left LA. But objective fans understand the impact he brought. During his tenure, he was the key component in the Los Angeles Lakers first ever 3 peat and put up some of the best playoff numbers in history.
3. Kareem Abdul Jabbar. Rewritten history makes us believe that the 80s Lakers were Magic's teams and his only, but this wasn't true for the first half of the decade. Make no mistakes, those early 80s Lakers squads still mobilized around number 33.
4. Jerry West. "Mr. Clutch," "The Logo," "Zeke From Cabin Creek." Sure, he only has 1 NBA championship, but we can't really fault him for this considering his 60s Lakers teams never even had a puncher's chance against the Celtic Juggernaut. Rings aside, his individual stats and accomplishments are some of the best in history, and if there's an alternate universe where Russell's Celtics never existed, Jerry West probably has 10 rings there.
5. Kobe Bryant. The league's most dynamic scorer. Fresh off a repeat with a chance at a couple more. Aging, but his strong fundamentals ensure he'll be a top 5-10 player for a few more years.
How can you put Shaq above Kobe. Shaq may have had a better peak than Kobe but Kobe has more longjevity with lakers.
trolling ... forget Kobe ... how is Shaq even over Kareem?
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I'd put Kobe over West.
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Because Shaq accomplished slightly more than Kareem as LA's premiere player. Kareem is better overall, but not as a Laker.
Check Kareem numbers against another great center, Robert Parrish, in the 85 Finals
Kareem was 38 y/o
I don't think a 38 y/o Shaq qould have averaged those numbers vs another top C in the Finals
Kareem has more les, same number of MVP's, a longer Laker career and was the better clutch player but he is behind Shaq?
Kareem was a beast in that series, no doubt.
But the 85 Lakers were Magic's team at that point. It's similar to Tony Parker winning the Finals MVP when the Spurs were clearly Duncan's team (granted, Kareem and Magic are a lot closer talent-wise than Duncan and Parker.)
But I have no problem with Kareem being above Shaq. I gave Shaq the edge because he was able to 3 peat, something the Lakers have never done previously.
Key word is premiere.
Kareem passed the torch to Magic as the man after the 4-0 sweep by Philly. Shaq and Kareem had roughly the same amount of years as LA's "it" player.
I agree
But the Lakers could have 3-peated in 89 if Magic didn't get injured in game 1.
But the Pistons were scary good too.
you have extremely ty basketball takes...Sit back a let a playa re-run this :
Spurs First Team vs Lakers First Team
Here’s the bet -- If 50 years of gauranteed money and pussy were on the line which team would you pick. Let’s examine these wicked line-ups:
SG - GEORGE GERVIN VS. KOBE BRYANT
PG - TONY PARKER VS. MAGIC JOHNSON
SF - BRUCE BOWEN VS. ELGIN BAYLOR
PF - TIM DUNCAN VS. WILT CHAMBERLAIN
C - DAVID ROBINSON VS. KAREEM ABDUL-JABBAR
While the Spurs first team would be great in an alternate universe no way I’m missing out on all that cash and ass…The Lakers win every matchup on this first team decisively in my opinion. The TWIN TOWERS line-up on each side of the ball would be a delight to watch.
Spurs Second Team: vs Lakers Second Team ( This Spur 2nd unit could cause the Laker all time 2nd unit some problems)
SG - MANU GINOBILI VS. GAIL GOODRICH
PG - ALVIN ROBERTSON VS. JERRY WEST
SF - MIKE MITC VS. JAMES WORTHY
PF - LARRY KENON VS. PAU GASOL
C - BILLY PAULTZ VS. SHAQUILLE ONEAL
Jerry West and Pau Gasol on the same court is almost like a wet dream, and Shaq would just all over the Spur second unit. These 1st and 2nd Laker units would work well against any team combination's imaginable and any extra Laker players outside of this could be anyone in the world because they would probably never see the court anyway. These Lakers units are sick with it’s Power, Speed and Versatility.
Coaches: Pat Riley and Phil Jackson vs Gregg Popovich and Bob Hill
Huge Advantage: Lakers
that may be true in la la land, fakerfan. But thankfully in the real world, benches and depth play a bigger role and when you include those, the Lakers "huge advantage" goes byebye
the 2nd unit was the bench...how could SA really compete with a Bench featuring...Shaq, Gasol, and West....
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1990's Lakeshow > 2000's Lakeshow imo tbh
lol...i stopped reading when i saw "#2 Shaq-blah blah blah"
I usually don't rank players but to me, first place is between Jerry West and Magic Johnson. Kareem to me is right behind. I also believe Elgin Baylor deserves consideration, he stuck with his team his whole career and at one time was one of the top 5 players in NBA history. Wilt only played 5 years for the Lakers, but deserves consideration. I wouldn't put Mikan on a top 5 list. Shaq and Kobe might get nosed out if I really thought about it long enough.
So, possible order:
West
Magic
Kareem
Baylor
Chamberlain
1. Magic
2. Kobe
3. Kareem
4. Shaq
5. West
This is as a Lakers player.
Kareem is above Kobe if you look at the entire career and probably above Magic too.
At his peak 99-00 Shaq was arguably more dominant than Kareem, but Kareem has contributed more to the Lakers and is above Shaq any way you want to look at it: as a Laker and for the entire career. Six MVPs and six championships and all time leading scorer? It's not a close call.
If Kobe wins one more championship he moves into the #1 spot.
Last edited by namlook; 09-13-2010 at 08:02 PM.
Kobe above KAJ?
No ing way !
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KAJ
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Kobe
West
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