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    On the interest of making trouble,

    "Spurs' chances of a Finals appearance are good"

    Define good. There are 30 NBA teams and each has a chance of appearing in the Finals every year. Is being in the top 15 of these chances a good chance? The top 10? The top 6?

    The Spurs are definitely top 15, very likely top 10, and perhaps top 6...

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    I don't know which is worse: arguing that the Spurs' chances of a Finals appearance are good, or bags who started jocking Miami a few month ago because their odds of reaching the finals became so good.

    Hmmm.
    ace is a member of the newly formed miami mavericks franchise and appears to be bent on trolling spurs fans instead of focusing on laker fans like he is supposed to be doing.

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    So wait you actually believe the Spurs make the finals?
    Ahem....lack of comprehension appears to be one of your strong suits.



    The playoffs are what matters most of course, that's why it's called winning time, but hey, even in regular season, every time they've met, Ginobili has exceeded Wade's production and done so in a more efficient manner.
    See this is exactly what losing posters do all the time, I point out and define what's most important to understand and then you, BECAUSE YOU ARE LOSING, ATTEMPT MISDIRECTION. Ginobili's time in the playoff's when healthy is do ented. If you followed basketball as much as I do, you'd know that.

    Understand this (W)ace. You beating me is like a nail talking to a hammer. And you should know, THE HAMMER WINS EVERY TIME!

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    See this is exactly what losing posters do all the time, I point out and define what's most important to understand and then you, BECAUSE YOU ARE LOSING, ATTEMPT MISDIRECTION. Ginobili's time in the playoff's when healthy is do ented. If you followed basketball as much as I do, you'd know that.

    Understand this (W)ace. You beating me is like a nail talking to a hammer. And you should know, THE HAMMER WINS EVERY TIME!
    You already beat yourself but don't seem to have the comprehension skills to see it. You say Ginobili is better than Wade but are only posting stats from when they went head to head. The fact you fail to mention is that Ginobili wasn't the one guarding Wade majority of the time.

    I already stated that the once great defense of the Spurs were cause of Wade's struggles, as they were are able to focus on making him take tough shots. Manu benefitted from having Tim and Tony by his side making the opposing defense focusing on him not as easy.

    At this point Wade is the better player and your to much of a homer to understand or just to stupid. Now I'm really interested in how you think the Spurs stop Lebron? Since your convinced they will beat the Heat. Hammer

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    In layman's terms Wade is a franchise player and Ginobili is a role player. No disrespect to him but its the cold hard truth that your failing to see.

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    ace is a member of the newly formed miami mavericks franchise and appears to be bent on trolling spurs fans instead of focusing on laker fans like he is supposed to be doing.
    Mavericks?

    I do troll Lakers fans. Just look at the hate towards the Heat they been spewing lately. Just wait till they fail to 3 peat, that's when the fun begins.

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    Finally, something I agree with you on. THERE WILL BE NO THREEPEAT!

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    You already beat yourself but don't seem to have the comprehension skills to see it. You say Ginobili is better than Wade but are only posting stats from when they went head to head. The fact you fail to mention is that Ginobili wasn't the one guarding Wade majority of the time.

    I already stated that the once great defense of the Spurs were cause of Wade's struggles, as they were are able to focus on making him take tough shots. Manu benefitted from having Tim and Tony by his side making the opposing defense focusing on him not as easy.

    At this point Wade is the better player and your to much of a homer to understand or just to stupid. Now I'm really interested in how you think the Spurs stop Lebron? Since your convinced they will beat the Heat. Hammer
    Please, this is a TEAM GAME. I posted what they did for their teams. Is it DWade's fault that he was getting his ass kicked regularly by Ginobili and the Spurs? Yeah it was, because he wasn't as efficient, nor did he maximize what he had at home. Why didn't DWade try to stop Ginobili?

    I pointed out that MIA won 3 games in their series during Wade's time there. I know Wade is PERCEIVED AS a better player, but in a big game situation, Ginobili has only won at every level he's been in. Let's say they are both Top 4 SG. I'll say Bean is the best but the rest of the rankings are dependent upon what factors a team needs. For the Spurs, what Manu brings, fits this team best. So, to me he's at #2. It's not just my opinion.
    At his best and healthiest, Manu is just a step below Kobe Bryant

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    Please, this is a TEAM GAME. I posted what they did for their teams. Is it DWade's fault that he was getting his ass kicked regularly by Ginobili and the Spurs? Yeah it was, because he wasn't as efficient, nor did he maximize what he had at home. Why didn't DWade try to stop Ginobili?

    I pointed out that MIA won 3 games in their series during Wade's time there. I know Wade is PERCEIVED AS a better player, but in a big game situation, Ginobili has only won at every level he's been in. Let's say they are both Top 4 SG. I'll say Bean is the best but the rest of the rankings are dependent upon what factors a team needs. For the Spurs, what Manu brings, fits this team best. So, to me he's at #2. It's not just my opinion.
    Couple years ago I would agree but now he's merely a role player.

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    Couple years ago I would agree but now he's merely a role player.
    I just want to point out that guys like Kevin McHale, Robert Parish, Sidney Moncreif, Jeff Hornacek, and Randy Smith were all considered role players, in addition to being pivotal stars for their teams.

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    Couple years ago I would agree but now he's merely a role player.
    lol at Manu being a role player. Role players cannot carry their teams.

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    lol at Manu being a role player. Role players cannot carry their teams.
    Lol at being the only one ignorant enough here to say otherwise

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    Lol at being the only one ignorant enough here to say otherwise
    You honestly believe that I am the only one here who thinks Manu isn't a role player? How many times do you want to get owned in this thread before you stop posting? You haven't had one good point yet.

    You obviously didn't watch games in February/March.

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    You honestly believe that I am the only one here who thinks Manu isn't a role player? How many times do you want to get owned in this thread before you stop posting? You haven't had one good point yet.

    You obviously didn't watch games in February/March.
    Owned?

    The fact you say February/March like its the only time basketball is played, you just owned yourself. When Manu plays at a high level beyond the first round then I got owned.

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    Dude, all you do is take what other people are saying and say it's wrong. You come up with nothing on your own and just act like everything everyone else says is just stupid. When you decide to post something useful let me know.

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    Dude, all you do is take what other people are saying and say it's wrong. You come up with nothing on your own and just act like everything everyone else says is just stupid. When you decide to post something useful let me know.
    So when someone doesn't agree with you its wrong?

    I even made another thread showing you that's its not just my opinion that Manu is past his prime but the opinion of others as well. Yet, even when other Spurs fans agree your still to ignorant to come to grips with the reality of it.

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    In that thread, the prevalent opinion was Manu, when healthy, is a top notch SG in this league. Not that he was a role player. Stop putting words in people's mouths.

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    In that thread, the prevalent opinion was Manu, when healthy, is a top notch SG in this league. Not that he was a role player. Stop putting words in people's mouths.
    So answer me this if Manu is not role player then would you build a team around him? Is he a franchise player?
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    So answer me this if Manu is not role player then would you build a team around him? Is he a franchise player?
    Do you ever do anything other than ask questions that you try and pass off as rhetorical.

    Your question is flawed. There are more categories of players than franchise and roleplayer. If Manu's role is to score from the perimeter, be able to get into the lane easily, be an excellent passer, good man defender, great help defender and a great leader than sure hes a role player.

    You are such a r. Miami has not done . There are also more than a few questions surrounding them. Chemistry on offense and in the lockerroom, how the refs are going to respond to two different players who have depended on star treatment on the same team, spares at the PG and pivot, a starting 5 that lacks defense, health, James needing to adjust to playing on the baseline like forwards typically do and Wade being unable to do so.

    LA got taken to 7 games and nearly lost that one to a 3rd seed Boston so why they think they are unbeatable sure locks is hilarious.

    For us it comes down to health. Parker was hurt all year and never got on track but hes young and coming out well rested. Everyone wants to talk about Splitter, RJ, Hill, Blair and Anderson but Duncan and Manu both at stretches carried this team last season showing they still have it in them. They just got dinged esp Duncan.

    Both of them are coming into the season with a full offseason of rest and if the big three can be healthy coming down the stretch then you bet your ass we are contenders.

    All this talk of finals is ing stupid. Its all about matchups in the playoffs and you have no idea what those are going to be until March. At least wait until the AllStar break before babbling about the playoffs. Your bluster is meaningless.

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    Do you ever do anything other than ask questions that you try and pass off as rhetorical.

    Your question is flawed. There are more categories of players than franchise and roleplayer. If Manu's role is to score from the perimeter, be able to get into the lane easily, be an excellent passer, good man defender, great help defender and a great leader than sure hes a role player.

    You are such a r. Miami has not done . There are also more than a few questions surrounding them. Chemistry on offense and in the lockerroom, how the refs are going to respond to two different players who have depended on star treatment on the same team, spares at the PG and pivot, a starting 5 that lacks defense, health, James needing to adjust to playing on the baseline like forwards typically do and Wade being unable to do so.

    LA got taken to 7 games and nearly lost that one to a 3rd seed Boston so why they think they are unbeatable sure locks is hilarious.

    For us it comes down to health. Parker was hurt all year and never got on track but hes young and coming out well rested. Everyone wants to talk about Splitter, RJ, Hill, Blair and Anderson but Duncan and Manu both at stretches carried this team last season showing they still have it in them. They just got dinged esp Duncan.

    Both of them are coming into the season with a full offseason of rest and if the big three can be healthy coming down the stretch then you bet your ass we are contenders.

    All this talk of finals is ing stupid. Its all about matchups in the playoffs and you have no idea what those are going to be until March. At least wait until the AllStar break before babbling about the playoffs. Your bluster is meaningless.
    Five stars.

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    Yet with all those "questions" surrounding Miami they still are much more likely to win then the Spurs. Like it or not.

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    Yet with all those "questions" surrounding Miami they still are much more likely to win then the Spurs. Like it or not.
    The 2004 US Olympic team had James, Wade, Duncan, Stoudemire, Iverson and Anthony. They came in third.

    You do not even know what Miami's chances are.

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    The 2004 US Olympic team had James, Wade, Duncan, Stoudemire, Iverson and Anthony. They came in third.

    You do not even know what Miami's chances are.
    So you disagree in that Miami's chances are better than the Spurs?

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    So you disagree in that Miami's chances are better than the Spurs?
    Dude, honestly, do you post anything other than rhetorical questions?

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    Dude, honestly, do you post anything other than rhetorical questions?
    Do you even post anything other than non-sense that continuing gets you owned?
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