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    Yes he did, and I have a hard time he did just that. He is usually far more reasonable than that.

    LnGrrrR..... What's your mindset today? You have a fever above 104 by chance?
    What makes the suffering of 9/11 victims more "worthy" than Katrina victims, by chance? we listen to the words of the 9/11 families, and based on their words, some people think we should move the mosque, merely to placate these families. As if, because they said it, we should immediately respect their wishes and move it, disregarding the feelings of others.

    But Katrina victims, on the other hand, seem to be cast in a much more negative light. Instead of listening to their suffering, they are often dismissed. I've heard people casually state that people who still live in FEMA trailers need to find a job, that the state of Lousiana has had plenty of money come their way, etc etc, that plenty of time has passed for them to "get over it", as it were. I doubt these same people actually witness the destruction firsthand, either right afterwards or even years later.

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    I never said their claim was rational. I said it wasn't Islamophobia.
    what is it?

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    How did Katrina even get brought into the conversation?

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    How did Katrina even get brought into the conversation?
    they have something in common. both warnings weren't taken seriously.

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    What makes the suffering of 9/11 victims more "worthy" than Katrina victims, by chance? we listen to the words of the 9/11 families, and based on their words, some people think we should move the mosque, merely to placate these families. As if, because they said it, we should immediately respect their wishes and move it, disregarding the feelings of others.

    But Katrina victims, on the other hand, seem to be cast in a much more negative light. Instead of listening to their suffering, they are often dismissed. I've heard people casually state that people who still live in FEMA trailers need to find a job, that the state of Lousiana has had plenty of money come their way, etc etc, that plenty of time has passed for them to "get over it", as it were. I doubt these same people actually witness the destruction firsthand, either right afterwards or even years later.
    Look. I don't want to rehash this here. I will limit this to a couple key points. Start a new thread if you want more from me than i offer in this one and only post on the topic in this thread.

    People who live in the flood plains of New Orleans should be prepared for these things. Yes, we all feel for them, but they were not victims of someone elses actions. Not anywhere near those working in buildings, as noncombatants, and targeted by radicals. There is simple no comparison. To try to compare these two tragedies I think is ridiculous.

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    Um, the WTC had been attacked before.

    Did you miss that?

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    Poor butthurt mosque critics sure can dish it out, but when someone else criticizes them, they call it suppression.

    lol

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    How did Katrina even get brought into the conversation?
    I brought it up.

    Maybe you should try reading with more nuance.

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    Well, I'm sure there are some people still mourning for relatives lost that oppose it out of grief rather than fear. I think its pretty close minded and partisan to argue against that possibility.
    Only if they oppose everything being built in that area is this plausible. Or at least any religous buildings whatsoever. If theyve singled out islam for any reason then it is islamophobia.

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    People who live in the flood plains of New Orleans should be prepared for these things. Yes, we all feel for them, but they were not victims of someone elses actions. Not anywhere near those working in buildings, as noncombatants, and targeted by radicals. There is simple no comparison. To try to compare these two tragedies I think is ridiculous.
    Why does it make a difference whether or not the suffering was inflicted by a third party, or by a natural disaster?

    The argument is that the mosque should move because it would cause undue suffering to 9/11 families, right? Not enough respect or something?

    Just saying, I see alot less care for the opinions of Katrina victims.

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    Look. I don't want to rehash this here. I will limit this to a couple key points. Start a new thread if you want more from me than i offer in this one and only post on the topic in this thread.

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    Well, I'm sure there are some people still mourning for relatives lost that oppose it out of grief rather than fear. I think its pretty close minded and partisan to argue against that possibility.
    So they grieve and find it insensitive every time a new building is constructed with the two block radius of Ground Zero?'

    I could see that only I haven't seen that yet.

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    I only support their right to feel and speak their mind.
    They absolutely should have the right to feel and speak their Islamophobic minds.

    I would only agree with them if it could be shown that the Community center with a Mosque is intentionally placed at that location for some sinister reason.
    Me too.

    Since they can't show it, why are they opposing it?

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    looks like bin laden is still laughing and winning.

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    looks like bin laden is still laughing and winning.
    no kidding.

    Thanks a lot Bin Laden.

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    Since they can't show it, why are they opposing it?
    Emotions.

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    Yes, I would agree fear is an emotion.

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    don't they realize that bin laden planted those emotions? don't they realize they're throwing him a parade?

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    don't they realize that bin laden planted those emotions? don't they realize they're throwing him a parade?
    In a way, I agree with you for once. farther proof that the terrorism continues to prevail.

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    In a way, I agree with you for once. farther proof that the terrorism continues to prevail.
    Bingo.

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    Yes, it prevails as long as we have willing heads.

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    Yes, it prevails as long as we have willing heads.
    heads willing to express their Islamophobia at every opportunity.

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    heads willing to express their Islamophobia at every opportunity.

    Libs have more Christianophobia (oh, wait, no such word). That's why they are heads.

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    Libs have more Christianophobia (oh, wait, no such word). That's why they are heads.
    Which church's construction are they actively opposing?

    The ground zero cathedral?

    Please explain fully without a YouTube.

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    Libs have more Christianophobia (oh, wait, no such word). That's why they are heads.
    I don't know any lib afraid of any YMCA.

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